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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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I've done my research over the past 2 weeks.. was leaning towards purchasing locally but I've ventured to many of the online vendors and my confidence has increased through PS.

I'm looking for a RB :

Excellent Cut - Cut is priority.
G-H - though my fiance can't tell the difference between G, H, and I. I can, so G-H is best.
si1-VS1. Fire/brilliance plus eye-clean over the higher clarity cost/ct is fine.
.85 to 1ct range.



I proposed with a Hello Kitty (she LOVES Hello Kitty) ring 3 weeks ago with the promise of a real ring once she picked out setting.
Well she finally found so it's now my turn :)

Budget for the stone is 5K absolute max. I'm nearly streching it, I'd likely only go past it by 5-10% if it was say, a 1ct and I'm not paying sales tax.

So far these are at the top of my list (no order).

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7060/

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2397478.htm

Though this is a "virtual diamond ( correct PS terminology?) I'm interested in this one:
On paper it seems to be what I'm looking for a maybe a little better then the two above?
http://www.uniondiamond.com/diamonds/diamonds.php?search_type_id=2&action_type_id=2&context=&rb_flow_type=&rb_action_type_id=&item_id=AB958511#

The GIA report: http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=6127598212&weight=0.92


I'd like to thank you in advance for your help!

Oh! and Here's the Hello Kitty ring for your enjoyment :)

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Congrats.

The WF stone looks good. GOG stone looks good too except the Hearts image looks a little off to be a H&A, you can ask GOG to retake the image to confirm.

The UD virtual stone looks promising, you can ask UD to get you an idealscope image of that stone.
 
Thanks Stone, for my own education - could you tell me what looks off on the GOG one?
 
Just a thought about the CA, It's 35.5. For me personally that's a touch touch high. My limit is 35. Perhaps some more experienced PSers will chime in on this. That being said I believe the old CA "limit" for AGS for ideals was 35.8?
Stone cold - you around for an opinion on this?
 
I had also missed the medium Flor. on the GOG diamond - is that something I should be worried about - seems like slight to none is best?
 
UnionDiamonds was not able to provide much more than this

The diamond is very white, extremely brilliant, and is clean to the naked eye. The nature of the VS2 is a faint white feather off to the side which is not visible to the naked eye. There are no black inclusions in the stone, it’s a top VS2. The diamond was mined in Canada and has the Canadian Maple Leaf Symbol inscribed on the stone. It also has the GIA report number inscribed on the girdle. GORGEOUS stone!!

I have attached a copy of the GIA report for you to review. I do not have photos, or ideal scope images available of the diamond.
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Hi Lighthouse. :wavey:

I'm not an expert, but I like the WF stone. It's the biggest at 6.21-6.23, I think G SI-1 is a great value, and the WF ES stones have an awesome upgrade policy (I hear GOG does too).

Unless you are extremely color sensitive or want "D" bragging rights, a lower color (like the G) may be a better value. G is still very "white". Similar with the clarity. A VVS stone is putting money in something you can't see. An eye-clean SI-1 is a better deal. I'd rather see that money go towards size.

The GOG stone is an H, smaller than the WF stone, and has fluorescence. Fluoro is not a bad thing, it may help the H look "whiter". I hear GOG is great to deal with. G is my limit though, so I wouldn't get an H, but that's just me. A lot of folks would be totally happy with an H.

How color sensitive are you?
 
Lighthouse said:
UnionDiamonds was not able to provide much more than this

The diamond is very white, extremely brilliant, and is clean to the naked eye. The nature of the VS2 is a faint white feather off to the side which is not visible to the naked eye. There are no black inclusions in the stone, it’s a top VS2. The diamond was mined in Canada and has the Canadian Maple Leaf Symbol inscribed on the stone. It also has the GIA report number inscribed on the girdle. GORGEOUS stone!!

I have attached a copy of the GIA report for you to review. I do not have photos, or ideal scope images available of the diamond.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Huh? So they are telling you all this without having the stone in their hand. Sounds like their customer service has gone down the drain.

The JA True Hearts' idealscope image looks good, but the hearts are disjointed for the 5, 7 and 8 o'clock hearts.

The other JA stone could work.
 
starryeyed said:
Hi Lighthouse. :wavey:

I'm not an expert, but I like the WF stone. It's the biggest at 6.21-6.23, I think G SI-1 is a great value, and the WF ES stones have an awesome upgrade policy (I hear GOG does too).

Unless you are extremely color sensitive or want "D" bragging rights, a lower color (like the G) may be a better value. G is still very "white". Similar with the clarity. A VVS stone is putting money in something you can't see. An eye-clean SI-1 is a better deal. I'd rather see that money go towards size.

The GOG stone is an H, smaller than the WF stone, and has fluorescence. Fluoro is not a bad thing, it may help the H look "whiter". I hear GOG is great to deal with. G is my limit though, so I wouldn't get an H, but that's just me. A lot of folks would be totally happy with an H.

How color sensitive are you?
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Sensitive in terms of my ability to see the difference in grades? I can point "I" everytime with G,H,I next to each other.
My fiance tried the same "game" at the store and she couldn't tell the difference ... lucky me! =) Here baby, it's an "E"! haha JK.

The H does have me looking at GOG. less and less.

Can anyone chime in on the UD one? The are just far enough to where I can't make the drive to them in Atlanta BUT, shipping it back would cost me less than $20. I'm willing to give it a shot if it looks like it could be worth it - I'd have whatever I get looked at by an indie gemologist.
 
Stone-cold11 said:
Lighthouse said:
UnionDiamonds was not able to provide much more than this

The diamond is very white, extremely brilliant, and is clean to the naked eye. The nature of the VS2 is a faint white feather off to the side which is not visible to the naked eye. There are no black inclusions in the stone, it’s a top VS2. The diamond was mined in Canada and has the Canadian Maple Leaf Symbol inscribed on the stone. It also has the GIA report number inscribed on the girdle. GORGEOUS stone!!

I have attached a copy of the GIA report for you to review. I do not have photos, or ideal scope images available of the diamond.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Huh? So they are telling you all this without having the stone in their hand. Sounds like their customer service has gone down the drain.

The JA True Hearts' idealscope image looks good, but the hearts are disjointed for the 5, 7 and 8 o'clock hearts.

The other JA stone could work.
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Appears so, they either don't want to take the images or it's in a vendors hands and they are just passing that along to me.
I'm thinking about calling them to confirm.
 
Lighthouse said:
Sensitive in terms of my ability to see the difference in grades? I can point "I" everytime with G,H,I next to each other.
My fiance tried the same "game" at the store and she couldn't tell the difference ... lucky me! =) Here baby, it's an "E"! haha JK.

The H does have me looking at GOG. less and less.

Can anyone chime in on the UD one? The are just far enough to where I can't make the drive to them in Atlanta BUT, shipping it back would cost me less than $20. I'm willing to give it a shot if it looks like it could be worth it - I'd have whatever I get looked at by an indie gemologist.
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Sorry, I just realized the UD one is the biggest. What's their upgrade policy? Is that a factor for you? The numbers look nice, but it's hard to tell from just numbers. There's no inclusion map?

Um, is $20 registered and/or insured shipping? If so, it may be worth the $20.
 
Amber204 said:
Just a thought about the CA, It's 35.5. For me personally that's a touch touch high. My limit is 35. Perhaps some more experienced PSers will chime in on this. That being said I believe the old CA "limit" for AGS for ideals was 35.8?
Stone cold - you around for an opinion on this?
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PGS limit for CA is much broader. http://agslab.com/trade_research_and_development_cut_grade_documents.php

Some just prefer fiery cut.
 
Lighthouse,
I'm in Atlanta and have visited UD twice (their corp offices are here). I was very excited at first about using UD because they have such a good customer service reputation (Forbes) and their selection is good. I've worked with Darrell Cox both times, who is very kind and also knowledgeable.

As some alluded to in this thread, they are really much more of a broker, so both times I went with pretty specific requests to see stones of a certain shape, size, and color, I could only see one or two stones. And I'm talking basic rounds, 2 carats, etc. - nothing unusual or rare. I would definitely call and see if it's in house - if so, they're fully equipped for photos.

And I ♥ the Hello Kitty ring. That's just awesome.
 
Thank you EVERYONE for your help


Here is my updated list:

.85ct F VS1
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7350/

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I have this one on hold - I should have a idealscope image from JA tomorrow

0.85 Carat F-VVS2
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1315827.asp
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From Orig. post
0.926 ct G SI1
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2397478.htm

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0.92 Carat - G VS2
http://www.uniondiamond.com/diamonds/diamonds.php?search_type_id=2&action_type_id=2&context=&rb_flow_type=&rb_action_type_id=&item_id=AB958511#
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If you have a better suggestion, I'm still open. Budget is 5100. .85 is the smallest.
 
more carat, lower color and clarity, but lower price. Remember that the HCA is a rejection not selection - and that anything under 2 is fine. (I'd choose the BGD :)) because the G color is fine for my eye, and the eye-clean is what I am most concerned about). Since you said you are more color sensitive, you may want the F. I don't think you can go wrong with either.
 
Anne - you've been great. I think I'm going to go with the BG one... :D

Lunch time; clear my head. Making a decision.
 
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