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Accepting what we cannot control...please share your advice

missy

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Here we go again another skin thread but really more a thread on hopefully sharing experiences on how PSers accept what they cannot change. Over the years I have found PS to be a great source of info, advice, support and wisdom so what better place to come when I am currently struggling (mentally as well as physically) with more skin issues.


I have tried and continue to try whatever I can to control my skin which is not behaving. Since my 40's (and I am now 51) I have been dealing with skin issues but it is getting worse. There are times of relative quiet that can last many months but then the conditions flare again.

Currently dealing with POD, rosacea and the fact that my face feels irritated all the time. I am constantly aware of it hurting. That is my main issue really over and above the physical appearance. That my face always hurts. A constant irritation. Sometimes worse than other times but always there. And of course it does alter my appearance which is a source of sadness and stress for me but that pales in comparison to how it feels. But both of these aspects affect me.

Generally I have a good attitude and I am trying to maintain a positive perspective and outlook I always try to maintain my sense of humor because that is critical for my well being. But just posting here to see if any of you might have some other tips on how to do this. I am not looking for treatment advice as I really have tried everything and am under supposedly excellent medical care. But of course if you have something you feel might help I welcome hearing it and am always grateful if you are willing to share with me.

Here is what I do so far in accepting what the reality of the situation is.

1. Grateful for all the good I have in my life. My dh who is always a source of comfort love and support.

2. Grateful for all my good friends who love me as I am no matter my appearance. They love me for me and not what I look like.

3. Grateful for our health because this is not a fatal issue so I have to suck it up and deal with it. So many countless people dealing with so much worse. And it makes me mad and disappointed in myself to be upset with what I am dealing with when there are so many others suffering with so much worse. Really need to appreciate all the blessings in my life.

And finally,

4. What is my alternative? I have these medical issues no matter what (at least for now and maybe forever but all I know for sure is for now and this is my reality) so I can have it and be miserable in my frame of mind or have it and try to be happy anyway. Not let it ruin the rest of my peace of mind. Handle it the best I can and live my life and enjoy my life despite having this always present issue. There really is no other good alternative so make the best of it.


I find this quote to be a source of comfort. “The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..”
― John Milton, Paradise Lost



That's all I have right now. Looking for other pieces of wisdom and advice on how you have overcome adversity in your life no matter not being able to control it and still been able to maintain your peace of mind and contentment. Maybe I am not that smart because it seems I am learning these lessons over and over again and yet I am still learning how to accept what I cannot control and still have peace of mind and contentment. But I am ready and able to keep relearning what I need to in order to survive my mind's angst.

Thanks for reading and sharing.

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You’ve answered all your own questions, actually. No one is going to be ecstatically happy or even just content, every single day. Emotion is like a wave that has to be ridden - sometimes you’re drowning, and other times you can see the sun. At some point you learn to float and not fight the highs and lows so much. That’s my experience up to now anyway.

That said, I AM dealing with one of those medical conditions that can cause death - usually in the form of the sufferer choosing to exit early due to massive quality of life issues. I also have a young (39) SIL with stage IV colon cancer. I am exquisitely aware now, of the fleetingness of life and how feeling bad about my lot is a waste of what time I have left. I try to not dwell. Easier said than done I know.

Maybe all I’m saying is cut yourself the slack to feel your own feelings - quit judging them. Then when you get tired of feeling one way or the other, distract yourself and LIVE.

And it wouldn’t be a post by me if I didn’t recommend a book. :) I’m currently halfway through this one, which works in nicely with your topic.

The Importance of Suffering: The Value and Meaning of Emotional Discontent
https://www.amazon.com/Importance-Suffering-Meaning-Emotional-Discontent/dp/0415667801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477061570&sr=8-1&keywords=the+importance+of+suffering
 

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My skin issues are directly related to what I eat. I (think) you eat an organic diet, I can't recall. However mine is greatly triggered by diet, as well as laundry stuff (so I use soap nuts and wool dryer balls). I had to remove all dairy from my diet, but can eat goats/sheep cheese. I also am likely going to remove gluten, as I know that is also a huge trigger for many people. The chemicals in my make up also impacted me, but I found this stuff to be great
http://www.butters-n-bars.com/beautifulbodybar.html

As well as this stuff here
http://www.farmsoap.com/_e/Cremes/product/1023/Aloe_Creme_Save_with_3_for_39_95.htm

I get the prickly pear but this stuff took 3 days to clear up my entire face with their oatmeal soap bar in the PM and applying the lotion for 3 days. I saw them at the market and my skin was SO BAD they gifted me a oatmeal bar for FREE, then I bought the cream and in less than 5 days it was gone.

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HI:

Missy dealing with chronic pain and health issues is a challenge. Chronicity is a health entity, and when viewed in that light, I think begins a better understanding of how to deal with the psychological issues that will be with you "always". And it isn't that you are not grateful for having an otherwise good and bountiful life--the fact is you live with chronic pain and inflammation. That is real (physiological and psychological) and thankfulness, unfortunately, doesn't eliminate physical pain. Although it might provide some perspective.

I know we always want to get better and for our problems to be over, right now and forever. But it doesn't always work that way.

Have you ever spoken to a pain specialist? They have both pharmacological and psychological tools in their repertoire that might be helpful. Have you read any research by practitioners who deal with patient who have chronic issues and what interventions and tips they give to help their patient achieve medical stability, happiness, acceptance, etc, on whatever level?

I have no wish to sound preachy and be a debbie downer. Acceptance is a big variable in most issues--but perhaps you can learn to revisit the way you think about this issue (acute illness/short term thinking = "why is this happening to me" vs. long term thinking = "oh I am in a flare and this is how I need to manage this time...) you might feel better.

Does anything here make sense?

yours n health--Sharon
 

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Having had skin issues in the past, diet, stress and allergies play a huge part in the flare up of symptoms for me. I also live with something akin to Crohns disease so I have a restrictive diet anyway. What does your diet look like Missy?
 

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Missy: you are awesome. You so frequently change the tenor of the board with your thoughtful, loving posts where you open up and share your vulnerability - vulnerability we all have but many are too threatened to share. You make me feel more like sharing (and likely many more as well). As attested by everyone here, we all want to know you in real life!

Your question is excellent and something I think about often. I will be back later to answer it in more detail, to give it the time and thought it is due. In the meantime, I will say that I am always grappling with the fine line - when is it my responsibility and when do I let it go? Health issues are really tough, as they are internal to us so we often feel like if we only try the one more thing, the standing on our head, the eating only grapefruit, the "thinking only positive thoughts" (this last one really gripes me, by the way). I will say that I know your diligence from years of posting and reading and will say that you know exactly when you have done all you can and its time to turn it over. Good for you for starting a dialogue on just that issue. I have so many I want to throw in there, the biggest being the health of my son and our relationship :(sad so I will be back.

You are so effing brave, my friend, for initiating such an important but personal thread. I hope all that respond fully commit as you have done!
 

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I'm so sorry Missy:( Have you ever tried the whole 30? It eliminates all foods that cause inflammation in our bodies. I have done it a few times, if you want more info let me know. You can also google it!
 

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Missy, you are a lovely person. I'm sorry for your frustration with these issues - while I don't have experience with these specific things, I do have experience with trying to manage life long embarrassing/painful health issues.

I don't know that I have any answers. It's hard, it's a struggle. Over time I have just resigned myself to the way things are, but it took me many years to even get to that place. I used to be way worse off than I was; I had a surgery that made things better overall, and that made me realize how grateful I was to have things improved, even if they're not resolved. It sounds to me like you're already doing everything right; you're doing the same things I did, anyway!! Be patient with yourself. Surround yourself with people who care and are understanding. On the really bad days, sometimes I just need to hide out in my house until I feel better. And I think it does take constant reminders of the good things in our lives, as well as perspective, to be able to be in a good space mentally.

I doubt that I've said a single thing you don't already know, but I do empathize with you and wish you the best.
 

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It's not for everyone but I rely on prayer. Not things like praying to be rich or things like that but praying for the strength to get through life, to be a better wife, mother and friend and a better person overall. This year really took a toll on me and it wore me down to the point that I just gave it to God and trust me when I tell you I am not a religious nut however I absolutely believe in the power of prayer. Also recently started back to church and I find it just really helps to reinforce being more peaceful and centered.

Just know that you are a very valued member of this community and we are all here for you.
 

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Two powerful and enduring prayers:

God is with me.

God, please help me.
 

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ksinger|1477061799|4089255 said:
You’ve answered all your own questions, actually. No one is going to be ecstatically happy or even just content, every single day. Emotion is like a wave that has to be ridden - sometimes you’re drowning, and other times you can see the sun. At some point you learn to float and not fight the highs and lows so much. That’s my experience up to now anyway.

That said, I AM dealing with one of those medical conditions that can cause death - usually in the form of the sufferer choosing to exit early due to massive quality of life issues. I also have a young (39) SIL with stage IV colon cancer. I am exquisitely aware now, of the fleetingness of life and how feeling bad about my lot is a waste of what time I have left. I try to not dwell. Easier said than done I know.

Maybe all I’m saying is cut yourself the slack to feel your own feelings - quit judging them. Then when you get tired of feeling one way or the other, distract yourself and LIVE.

And it wouldn’t be a post by me if I didn’t recommend a book. :) I’m currently halfway through this one, which works in nicely with your topic.

The Importance of Suffering: The Value and Meaning of Emotional Discontent
https://www.amazon.com/Importance-Suffering-Meaning-Emotional-Discontent/dp/0415667801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477061570&sr=8-1&keywords=the+importance+of+suffering
ksinger,

I'm so sorry that you and your SIL are both dealing with such devastating health issues. :(sad

Thank you for recommending the book.

Sending hugs and keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
 

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december-fire|1477085655|4089401 said:
ksinger|1477061799|4089255 said:
You’ve answered all your own questions, actually. No one is going to be ecstatically happy or even just content, every single day. Emotion is like a wave that has to be ridden - sometimes you’re drowning, and other times you can see the sun. At some point you learn to float and not fight the highs and lows so much. That’s my experience up to now anyway.

That said, I AM dealing with one of those medical conditions that can cause death - usually in the form of the sufferer choosing to exit early due to massive quality of life issues. I also have a young (39) SIL with stage IV colon cancer. I am exquisitely aware now, of the fleetingness of life and how feeling bad about my lot is a waste of what time I have left. I try to not dwell. Easier said than done I know.

Maybe all I’m saying is cut yourself the slack to feel your own feelings - quit judging them. Then when you get tired of feeling one way or the other, distract yourself and LIVE.

And it wouldn’t be a post by me if I didn’t recommend a book. :) I’m currently halfway through this one, which works in nicely with your topic.

The Importance of Suffering: The Value and Meaning of Emotional Discontent
https://www.amazon.com/Importance-Suffering-Meaning-Emotional-Discontent/dp/0415667801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477061570&sr=8-1&keywords=the+importance+of+suffering
ksinger,

I'm so sorry that you and your SIL are both dealing with such devastating health issues. :(sad

Thank you for recommending the book.

Sending hugs and keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
Thank you December-fire, you're very kind. I assure you though, I'm at an easier point in my condition of MS than some (in my best "MP Holy Grail" voice: "I'm not dead YET!" ;-) ) I'm sure I'll be posting on here for quite a while to come.

My SIL is doing quite well all things considered - one of the most positive and steel-cored people I've ever met. She is truly the sister I never had. :)
 

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Missy,

All the coping techniques you listed are great and will be effective at times. But other times, not so much.

As ksinger said, sometimes a person should just cut themselves some slack and feel what they're feeling instead of trying to 'look on the bright side'.

Part of being human means having a range of emotions, including anger and feeling hard done by. Wanting to curl up into a ball and cry, or yell and scream at times, is normal and healthy in my view.

Its OK to get riled up, sound off and snarl about something.
Just do it in a safe environment; vent with your DH there to calmly and quietly let your rant run its course.

Get the frustration out of your system and it will probably allow you to use humor or other coping techniques.
Until the next time that you need to let off some steam.

Its a roller coaster not a highway across the prairies.

That being said, constant pain or stress is a very serious matter and we can't always cope with it on our own.
Everyone here has offered lots of excellent advice, including contacting a pain management clinic.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this health issue.

Sending big hugs
 

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ksinger,

I'm glad to hear you and your SIL are doing well given the circumstances.

I look forward to reading your posts here for a very long time to come! :wavey:

Hugs
 

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I use humor to deal with a lot of life's not-so-fun stuff (peppered with moments of snarling :lol: ).

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Most things I just go with. Right now, I am having difficulty because there is a dog in urgent need of vet and a rescue group to take from there. I can't save them all. I want to, but just can't. He stands a chance of gotten to the vet ASAP but I can't step in and cover it all. We need to rebuild our savings and pay off the debts we have.

I did $500 for one dog and have sent two big boxes of goodies. I so want to do more!
 

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Thank you everyone for sharing with me and for your caring posts. I so appreciate every single one of them.

Karen, I am so sorry you are dealing with MS and about your SIL's diagnosis of late stage Colon Cancer. :cry:

I am going to buy the book you recommend (and as you know I very much enjoyed reading the other book you recommended to me thank you) and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. LOL the first book you recommended was $0.99 and this one is $47. I got off cheap last time haha. I am looking forward to reading it and perhaps if you are around we can discuss it further when we both finish the book.

Sending you good thoughts and lots of good health PS ***DUST*** for you and your SIL. I am so sorry you are both dealing with such serious health issues. I am glad you have such a wonderful SIL and share such a close bond. I know that must bring much comfort and peace for both of you.


Hi Vintagelover, thanks for the info. Yes I eat mainly an organic diet and I am a Pescetarian. I don't usually eat dairy or gluten or wheat etc and I also use all the possible chemical "free" stuff available. Laundry detergent, shampoos, etc. all free of supposedly harmful chemicals though I suppose one cannot be entirely sure if there is something harmful to us in the products. I appreciate you sharing what works for you and I am sorry you are dealing with skin issues too and I am glad it has cleared up for you. Checking out your links, thank you.

Sharon, yes what you wrote makes lots of sense and thank you for always being here for me and being so supportive. My doctors and I have explored certain meds to help with the pain but always come down to the fact that the side effects and possible change in energy and personality wouldn't be worth it. I don't feel I am at the point yet where I need to go on meds that might change these aspects of my personality but always they are there if I need to go to them. Thank you for chiming in to help me and (((hugs))).

Hi arkieb, I am sorry you are dealing with Crohns disease and my good friend also has that and it can be challenging. My diet isn't perfect but I do eat mainly vegetarian with fish (Pescetarian) and for the most part (but not entirely though now that summer is over I will not be eating any more ice cream so back to no dairy!) no dairy, no gluten, no wheat, no spicy foods, no added sugar, no processed foods, and we rarely eat out anymore so I know for the most part what is going into my body. Thank you for weighing in and I hope you are finding relief from your medical condition with your diet. I would gladly give up whatever foods I need to if my skin could be free of discomfort and inflammation. Funny how easily one can get to that point. No problem giving up foods that cause issues. The challenge is figuring out what those foods are.

Minousbijoux, thank you so much sweetheart. Your post brought tears to my eyes. You are so kind and warm and I appreciate you being here. I think you are awesome. I am so sorry your son is dealing with health issues and that you are having problems with your relationship with him and I don't know the details but I will say when someone isn't feeling well so much of the time it can really affect your relationship with other people. My dh bears the brunt of this and I try not to let it affect our relationship but sometimes having this chronic pain puts me in such a bad mood that it just does. Big (((hugs))) to you and I hope things start looking up for your son's health and for your relationship with him.

And for the record I completely agree with you re the positive thinking. It sometimes feels that people are blaming us for our health issues if we are not practicing positive thinking and that doesn't feel good. Believe me if positive thinking could take care of this I would be A-OK right now. :!:

Soxfan, thank you for that recommendation. I remember others recommending it in the past and I googled it again thanks to your recommendation and I just spoke with my dh and he and I are going to do it starting in January. I couldn't find 30 consecutive days where we could actually do this until January due to a good friend's visit at the end of next week and then plans for the holidays (Thanksgiving) and then a wedding thrown in there in mid December so we are starting January 1st we will both do the Whole 30. Thank you for recommending it.

As of now I do much of that kind of eating but I do eat some Whole 30 forbidden foods like corn and Stevia. 2 years ago when this (or a similar) diet was recommended I cut out all beans as that was my main protein source and started eating fish again as I was a vegan at that time and it made no difference sadly. But this time I will cut out corn and whatever else I need to in order to see if this can make a difference. I hated cutting out black beans and chickpeas 2 years ago when I first developed POD but I got used to it. Though I wish I could go back to vegetarian as I don't like eating an animal (fish) but I have made peace with that.

Could you tell me besides nuts what do you snack on? I already eat lots of nuts (almonds, pistachios, cashews-I have to check if that is OK on the Whole 30) in the morning but I love to snack on air popped popcorn in the evenings and that is forbidden so are there any foods you can recommend for safe snacking? I like the satisfying crunch I get from popcorn and I also like eating it while we watch movies at home.


Katharath, I am sorry you are dealing with health challenges and I am glad you are doing well even though the health issues are not completely resolved. Thank you for sharing what is working for you and it always helps me to hear how others deal with adversity even if in my head I already know. Repetition helps. Thank you and I wish you all the best too.


StephanieLynn, I am sorry you have and continue to deal with many challenges and I am glad you are finding peace and contentment and that going back to church is working for you. I appreciate hearing what helps others deal with challenges whether they be health challenges or just life challenges. I am not religious but I am spiritual and I do pray (in my own way without a religious institution) and it does help me feel more centered and at peace too. Thank you for sharing and for your kind words and hugs to you.

Kristie, thank you.

December Fire, thank you and I am pretty good at getting the frustration out LOL. As you might have already realized from some of my PS posts emoting is not something I have trouble with and my loved ones know exactly how I am feeling. I don't keep that secret. I do wish at times I was more stoic that way but it truly helps me to get it out and vent and cry and then I do (usually) feel better. You are right-life sure is a roller coaster. Thank you for adding your support here. (((Hugs))).

TooPatient, awww honey, I am sorry. That sucks. I know that feeling well of wanting to save all the animals and not being able to. :blackeye: Take comfort in that you do what you can and that is all you can do right? But yes I know that feeling well and I would be lying if I said I didn't often cry about the animals we cannot save. It sucks. :blackeye:
Take happiness in what you can do and good for you for getting your family back on your feet. You have come a long way and through a very dark time and I am so pleased for you that things are looking up for all of you. (((Hugs))).

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Oh dear missy,

So sorry to hear of your pain and discomfort!
I don't have much more to add, but after prayer and meditation, I turn to PS. Good for you to reach out.
One last thought...maybe acupuncture? I've found temporary relief many times with it.
((((())))) hugs to you dear girl.

Love,
Begonia
 

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HI:

Missy, FWIW, I take 100 mg pf Gabapentin for my post herpetic neuralgia pain. I don't take it often but when I have a particularly bad day--it helps. But it took me a long time to come around to even taking something on a prn basis. I am careful when I take it--ususally around suppertime and n ow when I am going out as it can be sedating. My BIL took Lyrica for a short term--for his neuralgia. I didn't want to use that drug--but it worked for him.

Again FWIW, what helps my pain the most is Botox in my scalp--in a "migraine" pattern. I saw a Neurologist and he recommended trying this based on evidence. And it helps tremendously--and that is why I suppose I can get away with taking a low dose of Gabapentin on a prn basis.

Of course my situation is different from yours and I understand your reluctance to take medication due to side effects. Quality of life is important and living with chronic pain is a big challenge.

Healing vibes across the miles.

kind regards--Sharon
 

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Missy, have you tried an integrative medicine doctor? I am also wary of the side effects of many pharmaceuticals. but there are so many natural remedies for things. I was reading today about Tumeric being an anti-inflammatory and there are others. I have a friend who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer a couple of years ago, and she rejected chemo and totally changed her diet and her tumors have shrunk or disappeared to the shock of her doctors! Maybe you have explored this avenue, but it will be my first action for any future medical issues.

I have serious things that I cannot control and that will probably be with me the rest of my life, and my faith is THE only thing that keeps me going.
 

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Do you take good quality vitamin supplements? It might very well be what you are missing from your diet could help rather than what you are eating. Skin conditions need iron, magnesium etc to help heal, and some vitamins and herbs are great for managing stress as well....
 

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My late partner taught me the saying that is in my signature.

And I have learned to mentally draw a line in the sand and move on.

I have been dealt a few bad hands in life, however, I have moved on - no point dwelling on the past and on people/matters that are beyond my control.

I have seen envy, jealousy, bitterness, resentment and the desire to seek revenge ground people to a pulp, and am determined not to let that happen to me.

DK :))
 

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Thank you for the additional info Sharon and I am so sorry you are dealing with chronic pain. :cry:
I am going to take everything you said under advisement and I so appreciate your willingness and generosity in sharing with me.
Big (((hugs))) and wishing you pain free happy and healthy days ahead. ((((HUGS)))).


Begonia,Thank you for posting and by the way congratulations on passing your exams! So happy for you! Acupuncture really helped my mom and a few friends of mine as well. Only issue with it was once they stopped going the benefits disappeared so I have been reluctant to try that but a good reminder and something to consider. Thank you! And thank you for the hugs and right back at ya.

Hi Diamondseeker, thank you for posting about integrative medicine. I actually have not tried that yet and will research it. How wonderful about your friend's recovery! I am skeptical by nature (though always cautiously optimistic) and I feel let down by the medical community in general based on my experiences (and those of my loved ones too) over the last decade plus. So much money spent and so little benefit and it is draining to say the least. But worth looking into your recommendation and thank you so much for sharing your advice here.

arkieb, what supplements/herbs do you recommend? I take (Doctors Best) Magnesium 400-600 mg a day and other various supplements as well. Vitamin D3 4000 IUs a day, 50 mg B6, 25mg Zinc, Chromium, Vitamin K, Wobenzym, and maybe a couple of other supplements I cannot remember right now. Thank you for the info.


Hi DK, I am sorry you have dealt with challenges in your life but glad you overcame and are doing well now. Thank you for chiming in with your experience.
 

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A thought hit me yesterday. Sometimes we can't control things now, but something happens and that can change. A piece of information that wasn't there before. A piece of new technology or new medical advance.

Accepting now but watching is okay!


Oh.... Where this hit me was a reply to a question I asked. They were just $200 short of getting the dog in to a vet to get him checked out. I was expecting way more than that. ($300 apparently covers exam, 10 day hospital stay, heartworm treatments, etc)
So with that information, I was able to look at where we are and evaluate based on taxes and what I could cut to cover that.... And sent them the money they needed for the poor baby!

Still need someone to rescue him and give forever home, but bought him some time and a chance at life!

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TooPatient, this dog just breaks my heart. Wish I lived closer.
 

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TooPatient!!!! That is such wonderful news! Thank you for sharing it here and thank you so much for taking care of that sweet doggie's vet bill. You and your dh are the BEST! Now I am sending hopeful vibes and lots of PS ****DUST**** that this sweet pup gets his furever family who will provide him with a loving caring and safe home very soon. Thank you TooPatient!!!! (((HUGS))).

Scandi, thank you for your advice in that other thread and I replied to you there too. You're a sweetheart.
 

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Scandinavian|1477294253|4089928 said:
TooPatient, this dog just breaks my heart. Wish I lived closer.

He is in Louisiana. I have been searching everywhere for a home for him. Pennsylvania, Oregon, Washington, even Ontario.
 

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TooPatient|1477314008|4089961 said:
Scandinavian|1477294253|4089928 said:
TooPatient, this dog just breaks my heart. Wish I lived closer.

He is in Louisiana. I have been searching everywhere for a home for him. Pennsylvania, Oregon, Washington, even Ontario.
I'm in Scandinavia... :(sad
 
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