shape
carat
color
clarity

A new hunt... peachy pinkish/orangey diamond.

toomuch8

Brilliant_Rock
Joined
Nov 17, 2022
Messages
589
Felt like sharing some info about new hunt I have started!

I am a huge FCD fan but have never bought one because the colors I like are prohibitively expensive even at tiny sizes.

But one color that is both relatively affordable that I am happy to go with a small size is a combination of orange and pink, in a relatively high saturation grade.

Basically, a kind of padparadscha color if you will. A lot of these orangey pink stones have brown (even if brown is not on the report) so it may be quite a difficult hunt.

I have paid a local jeweler a small deposit (the same one I will meet to discuss setting my purple garnet soon) to help in the hunt.

I have contacted Leibish and IBD diamonds, and getting good advice from them too.

So far, as expected, the initial goods I was shown are a little meh and pastel. Nothing stole my heart yet.

It appears the challenge is strong saturation in a small stone. Not to mention the even-as-possible color balance too. Saturated stones in this color range tend to be large (and imo lean brownish). Small stones are pastel, sometimes even the ones graded intense.

The pastels I've been shown are around the half carat or larger. I would be happy with a much smaller stone that is more saturated (in fact this is what I asked for but I guess nothing fits the bill off the bat).
I'm not expecting something crazy vivid, but more vivid than what I have seen so far.

And yes, I have a design concept I quite like for a tiny stone like this, but it still needs refinement before I can share!

Below are some inspo pics for the color.

One is from @kenny 's collection. The heart shape with the fluoro - amazing. I hope he is ok with me quoting his thread (https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/fancy-colored-diamond-collection.159746/)


Another is this natural 7ct (reportedly) vivid pinkish orange by Dehres. Pinkish orange is much more unusual than orangey pink. I suspect this one leans brownish and it is getting help from the lighting.
Dehres 7ct 'vivid pinkish orange'(1).jpg

Next, many treated diamonds have this orange-pink color. But of course I wish for natural.
1764231754883.webp

Leibish have this half carater (over budget) which is rather brownish (at least in the photos). Fancy Orangy Pink. I could imagine that a smaller, more saturated - perhaps intense - version of this stone with less or no brown might be appealing.

1764233057276.webp
 
Last edited:
This is going to be the most fun gem hunt ever!! Padparadscha color with the brilliance and fire of diamond... incredible. I don't believe I've ever seen it before the example you showed today. Since this is one of my favorite colors, I will definitely be following along. Keep us posted and good luck!!
 
This is going to be the most fun gem hunt ever!! Padparadscha color with the brilliance and fire of diamond... incredible. I don't believe I've ever seen it before the example you showed today. Since this is one of my favorite colors, I will definitely be following along. Keep us posted and good luck!!

Thanks, I will. Padparadscha is a controversial name, that is probably not applicable to diamonds literally, but of course I am referring more to the vibe. Some people take these terms very seriously so just putting that out there.

It appears this color range is either pastel (too light) and not brownish, or deeper toned and brownish. I am hoping to find a balance. I am fairly impressed with what my jeweller pulled up so far but not 100% sold. I'll post the 2 favorites so far in the next post. Trying to think of the words to explain to her/guide her in a even better direction.
Specifically:
I tried suggesting to focus on the intense color grade, since I am willing to sacrifice size as much as needed, but she seems to not have a lot of hope for that. So fancy it is, so far. I think she just has a more grounded/realistic perspective while I am looking for a needle in a haystack/daydreaming.


This is going to be my new favorite thread. I’ll keep my eye out for you as I am in the hunt for a tiny pink omc/oec 3-4mm.

I'll keep an eye out for you too! In fact feel free to use this thread as if it was your own, if you wish. I came across this stone while looking myself on Langerman. Too big at 0.6ct about 5mm, but I swear they have had a number of old cut greens and pinks in the past. It might be worth inquiring.


1764263830720.webp
 
Last edited:
1.jpg

Still waiting for a video but this is at the forefront at the moment. Depends on how accurate this photo is of course. It is probably not quite as intense in hand. It may be more pink or brownish than it appears in this photo as well. Who knows.
It is only 'fancy' - not intense (mind clean thing - I would prefer intense). The cut looks a bit strange with the colorless areas in the middle but the stones is small (approx 0.2ct) so it is probably not a big deal visually.
It has medium orange fluoro which is cool!

Any opinions? My eyes are not the best with the pad-adjacent colors. If you could give a few pointers to the jeweler trying to source for me - what would come to mind?

If its super meh then just be brutally honest and tell me :razz: ETA the rest of the options while nice are too heavily pink leaning or with brownish tints.
 
Last edited:
Thanks, I will. Padparadscha is a controversial name, that is probably not applicable to diamonds literally, but of course I am referring more to the vibe. Some people take these terms very seriously so just putting that out there.

It appears this color range is either pastel (too light) and not brownish, or deeper toned and brownish. I am hoping to find a balance. I am fairly impressed with what my jeweller pulled up so far but not 100% sold. I'll post the 2 favorites so far in the next post. Trying to think of the words to explain to her/guide her in a even better direction.
Specifically:
I tried suggesting to focus on the intense color grade, since I am willing to sacrifice size as much as needed, but she seems to not have a lot of hope for that. So fancy it is, so far. I think she just has a more grounded/realistic perspective while I am looking for a needle in a haystack/daydreaming.




I'll keep an eye out for you too! In fact feel free to use this thread as if it was your own, if you wish. I came across this stone while looking myself on Langerman. Too big at 0.6ct about 5mm, but I swear they have had a number of old cut greens and pinks in the past. It might be worth inquiring.


1764263830720.webp

A pink OMC... lawd have mercy.
1237364wv9ymega33.gif
 
1.jpg

Still waiting for a video but this is at the forefront at the moment. Depends on how accurate this photo is of course. It is probably not quite as intense in hand. It may be more pink or brownish than it appears in this photo as well. Who knows.
It is only 'fancy' - not intense (mind clean thing - I would prefer intense). The cut looks a bit strange with the colorless areas in the middle but the stones is small (approx 0.2ct) so it is probably not a big deal visually.
It has medium orange fluoro which is cool!

Any opinions? My eyes are not the best with the pad-adjacent colors. If you could give a few pointers to the jeweler trying to source for me - what would come to mind?

If its super meh then just be brutally honest and tell me :razz: ETA the rest of the options while nice are too heavily pink leaning or with brownish tints.

If the color is accurate... it's positively gorgeous. I see zero appreciable brown with a definite balance of pink and orange. I don't think we can get too fussy with these types of FCDs, but yes, I would agree that the stone is a tad "mushy" in the middle. It's simply a function of cut, and FCDs aren't always faceted with the precision of white diamonds.
 
Thanks, I will. Padparadscha is a controversial name, that is probably not applicable to diamonds literally, but of course I am referring more to the vibe. Some people take these terms very seriously so just putting that out there.

It appears this color range is either pastel (too light) and not brownish, or deeper toned and brownish. I am hoping to find a balance. I am fairly impressed with what my jeweller pulled up so far but not 100% sold. I'll post the 2 favorites so far in the next post. Trying to think of the words to explain to her/guide her in a even better direction.
Specifically:
I tried suggesting to focus on the intense color grade, since I am willing to sacrifice size as much as needed, but she seems to not have a lot of hope for that. So fancy it is, so far. I think she just has a more grounded/realistic perspective while I am looking for a needle in a haystack/daydreaming.




I'll keep an eye out for you too! In fact feel free to use this thread as if it was your own, if you wish. I came across this stone while looking myself on Langerman. Too big at 0.6ct about 5mm, but I swear they have had a number of old cut greens and pinks in the past. It might be worth inquiring.


1764263830720.webp

Omg THANK YOU!!! This is exactly what I’m looking for, just need a hair smaller I think!
 
If the color is accurate... it's positively gorgeous. I see zero appreciable brown with a definite balance of pink and orange. I don't think we can get too fussy with these types of FCDs, but yes, I would agree that the stone is a tad "mushy" in the middle. It's simply a function of cut, and FCDs aren't always faceted with the precision of white diamonds.

Yeah the cut doesn't really bother me esp at this small size - flaws like this are not obvious, and due to the way fcds are cut for color and weight - but wanted to bring it up. (What a horribly worded sentence. I'm too tired lol.)

I will receive a video next week of this stone and my jeweler is still diligently going to pull up more options.

I was expecting to wait months for the right stone but sometimes the right one pops up quickly.

Do you think it is too pastel/light?

I will ask for a tweezer or hand shot to judge this better. Maybe need a viewing. I would really feel more comfortable with an intense grading and a touch less-pastel look.
The perfect stone would also have very strong orange/pink fluoro not just medium... But that is a very small detail lol. I'm mostly over analyzing/critical so I will hopefully be pleasantly surprised.

Thanks for chiming in Autumn, I really trust your POV on this color combination.

Oh I did edit the pic of the stone with higher saturation just to visualize it.

1000294561.jpg


Omg… I think that .6ct pink omc is over $33k :shock:

It appears their site hides prices for stones over 30k, so you are probably right.
Still, maybe email them... this is not the first old cut pink they have had. They may have a smaller, more affordable one.
If I see something else I'll post a link.
 
Last edited:
Do you think it is too pastel/light?

The saturation looks great in the photo, but yeah, it may be lighter in person. These smaller FCDs tend to have rather subtle color, even in the "intense" qualities. So that wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it might for you. I've only ever owned melee FCDs, which tend to be rather light (aside from the vivid yellows).

Here's a ring that has 2mm fancy intense yellow FCDs along with B2 Argyle blues and 5P pinks. Everything is set in platinum. The color is obvious in person, but certainly not saturated. In hindsight, I wish I had asked for each stone to be set in different shades of metal. The thing that threw me is I'd have had to do blue rhodium plating for the blue diamonds, and that felt like cheating. The heart diamond is 2+ct, F, VS, for reference.

thumbnail_DKPV2021___03__31____88052 V2____88052 V2(2) (1).jpg

 
The saturation looks great in the photo, but yeah, it may be lighter in person. These smaller FCDs tend to have rather subtle color, even in the "intense" qualities. So that wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it might for you. I've only ever owned melee FCDs, which tend to be rather light (aside from the vivid yellows).

Here's a ring that has 2mm fancy intense yellow FCDs along with B2 Argyle blues and 5P pinks. Everything is set in platinum. The color is obvious in person, but certainly not saturated. In hindsight, I wish I had asked for each stone to be set in different shades of metal. The thing that threw me is I'd have had to do blue rhodium plating for the blue diamonds, and that felt like cheating. The heart diamond is 2+ct, F, VS, for reference.

thumbnail_DKPV2021___03__31____88052 V2____88052 V2(2) (1).jpg


I have an unusual obsession with Argyle blues and I have no idea why considering there are gemstones who do blue better out there. I remember when this stone was posted on Leibish, and I was gobsmacked by the price (when I was young and innocent) - Argyle BL3 deep violetish blue. I remember this ring, and it is beautiful. I like the lighter blues too (though BL2 is rather intense for Argyle). Anyway, definitely have an Argyle blue on my bucket list even if it is melee sized!


Screenshot 2025-11-21 at 14-40-13 Blue Diamonds Buy Natural Blue Diamonds Engagement Rings & J...png

Back on topic - yeah, it depends on how it is in person but gotta stay realistic. If I see the stone in person and love it then the technicalities matter less.

From all the orangey pink type FCDs I've found online the last few days, this is the only one that is small, GIA intense and not basically brown. But I think I do see some brown. It is a bit over budget.


I mean this got a vivid orangey pink and it is very brown....


Oh - and one more option which I brought up to the jeweller but we haven't really acted on it, is to try find a intense or vivid pink (no modifier) that is obviously orangey. Pure pinks can lean fairly orangey. It won't be a near 50-50 split of course. And I'll probably end up with a 0.1ct or smaller stone due to budget. Probably not something I would go with, but an option to keep in mind. Here is an example of a pure pink that is orangey (imo)
(but not sure why this one looks so brownish in the video)

 
Last edited:
Oh, what fun, @toomuch8 ! I don’t suppose Leibish has Black Friday sales?

I saw this at Phillips Geneva Jewels TWO last year.
It is the prettiest FCD I have seen. 6.21 ct, Type IIa.
It is described as vivid pink but has an orangey tinge.IMG_1310.jpegIMG_1311.jpeg
 
Oh, what fun, @toomuch8 ! I don’t suppose Leibish has Black Friday sales?

I saw this at Phillips Geneva Jewels TWO last year.
It is the prettiest FCD I have seen. 6.21 ct, Type IIa.
It is described as vivid pink but has an orangey tinge.IMG_1310.jpegIMG_1311.jpeg

Is that the argyle phoenix I'm spotting? (the round?)

hmm, that pink is really stunning (eta - here is a video of it!)
Maybe the intense / vivid pink w/ orange lean path is an option worth exploring more explicitly with my jeweler. The issue is, she says, small stones struggle to hold that kind of saturation. But they exist - I am not sure if this leans orange but it does not lean purple to my eye, so maybe its a 'proof of concept'.

Yes Leibish has a discount on all or most of their stock it seems... you add to your cart and get 15-20% ish off.

I wish I could just buy this 0.07ct vivid purple, but its 40k after discount!

Anyway, It doesn't really help because nothing is really exciting me in the right color range that is in budget (max 10k, less is better, ideally I'd like tax to be included in that 10k). The stone my jeweler showed me is half my max budget so that is a nice plus. However, the 0.28ct I linked above is just above budget at around 11k after discount - that is the closest one I saw color wise.

But if anyone spots something that has potential I'd gladly look it over!

I mean there is this one I guess? it just doesn't excite me from the pics. I'd like more of a orange pink balance, it is unlikely I'll find that in a pure pink stone, but maybe. GIA grades are weird sometimes. 10.5k after discount.

 
Last edited:
I have an unusual obsession with Argyle blues and I have no idea why considering there are gemstones who do blue better out there. I remember when this stone was posted on Leibish, and I was gobsmacked by the price (when I was young and innocent) - Argyle BL3 deep violetish blue. I remember this ring, and it is beautiful. I like the lighter blues too (though BL2 is rather intense for Argyle). Anyway, definitely have an Argyle blue on my bucket list even if it is melee sized!


Screenshot 2025-11-21 at 14-40-13 Blue Diamonds Buy Natural Blue Diamonds Engagement Rings & J...png

Back on topic - yeah, it depends on how it is in person but gotta stay realistic. If I see the stone in person and love it then the technicalities matter less.

From all the orangey pink type FCDs I've found online the last few days, this is the only one that is small, GIA intense and not basically brown. But I think I do see some brown. It is a bit over budget.


I mean this got a vivid orangey pink and it is very brown....


Oh - and one more option which I brought up to the jeweller but we haven't really acted on it, is to try find a intense or vivid pink (no modifier) that is obviously orangey. Pure pinks can lean fairly orangey. It won't be a near 50-50 split of course. And I'll probably end up with a 0.1ct or smaller stone due to budget. Probably not something I would go with, but an option to keep in mind. Here is an example of a pure pink that is orangey (imo)
(but not sure why this one looks so brownish in the video)


I don't even care if that heart has some brown in it... wow! Any idea of the price?
 
I don't even care if that heart has some brown in it... wow! Any idea of the price?

I honestly find it kind of unappealing. Not sure why - maybe my monitor is not doing it justice.

Hint: If you have a Leibish account and add stones with hidden prices to your wishlist you will see the prices in your wishlist page. ;)2

1764322244226.png


I know this thread is a bit messy in terms of flow lol, so to go back to a previous topic - I recognize this stone, it was a 0.91ct intense pinkish orange (unusual because not orangey pink. Unfortunately I lost a bunch of gem stuff I had saved... anyway, again, it shows intense does not really always mean more intense than a good fancy, at least in this color range.

1764322616271.jpeg1764322461863.jpeg
 
I honestly find it kind of unappealing. Not sure why - maybe my monitor is not doing it justice.

Hint: If you have a Leibish account and add stones with hidden prices to your wishlist you will see the prices in your wishlist page. ;)2

1764322244226.png


I know this thread is a bit messy in terms of flow lol, so to go back to a previous topic - I recognize this stone, it was a 0.91ct intense pinkish orange (unusual because not orangey pink. Unfortunately I lost a bunch of gem stuff I had saved... anyway, again, it shows intense does not really always mean more intense than a good fancy, at least in this color range.

1764322616271.jpeg1764322461863.jpeg

Yeah, it doesn't look great in the photos, but the video is... yum (at least on my PC). I feel like the industry is very forgiving of brown and gray in diamonds as long as the depth of color is intense.

That emerald cut is really unique... almost like a peach sapphire (as opposed to a pad).
 
Yeah, it doesn't look great in the photos, but the video is... yum (at least on my PC). I feel like the industry is very forgiving of brown and gray in diamonds as long as the depth of color is intense.

The color of that emerald cut is really unique... almost like a peach sapphire (as opposed to a pad).

Looks almost the same to me on my screen across the video and pics.

Yes, it is a unique color. My partner called it 'fleshy' and skin-like lol. Here is a similar one.
 
Looks almost the same to me on my screen across the video and pics.

Yes, it is a unique color. My partner called it 'fleshy' and skin-like lol. Here is a similar one.

Yes, I see what you mean by orange definitely being the dominant color in those last two. I remember when I was shopping for my pad, I was really determined to find one that had just enough pink to not look "orange" and just enough orange to not look "pink." Simple concept, but more difficult to execute than one might think!
 
Is that the argyle phoenix I'm spotting? (the round?)

hmm, that pink is really stunning (eta - here is a video of it!)
Maybe the intense / vivid pink w/ orange lean path is an option worth exploring more explicitly with my jeweler. The issue is, she says, small stones struggle to hold that kind of saturation. But they exist - I am not sure if this leans orange but it does not lean purple to my eye, so maybe its a 'proof of concept'.

Yes Leibish has a discount on all or most of their stock it seems... you add to your cart and get 15-20% ish off.

I wish I could just buy this 0.07ct vivid purple, but its 40k after discount!

Anyway, It doesn't really help because nothing is really exciting me in the right color range that is in budget (max 10k, less is better, ideally I'd like tax to be included in that 10k). The stone my jeweler showed me is half my max budget so that is a nice plus. However, the 0.28ct I linked above is just above budget at around 11k after discount - that is the closest one I saw color wise.

But if anyone spots something that has potential I'd gladly look it over!

I mean there is this one I guess? it just doesn't excite me from the pics. I'd like more of a orange pink balance, it is unlikely I'll find that in a pure pink stone, but maybe. GIA grades are weird sometimes. 10.5k after discount.


Sharp eyes! Yes, it was the Argyle Phoenix. They showed it to me and I wasn’t taken by it because I had eyes on the pink! I didn’t take any try-on photos, sigh… so much jewellery, so little time.
Singapore is one of the best places to buy a pink diamond because Glajz (Argyle diamonds) is here!
Fonder diamond has quite a selection too. Perhaps this one is not too bad? It is below 10K. I must say I don’t know much about FCD, only being a busybody here.
 
Sharp eyes! Yes, it was the Argyle Phoenix. They showed it to me and I wasn’t taken by it because I had eyes on the pink! I didn’t take any try-on photos, sigh… so much jewellery, so little time.
Singapore is one of the best places to buy a pink diamond because Glajz (Argyle diamonds) is here!
Fonder diamond has quite a selection too. Perhaps this one is not too bad? It is below 10K. I must say I don’t know much about FCD, only being a busybody here.

I would love to visit the gem hubs like Singapore, Thailand... ugh I have to! I'm swamped at the moment.
I appreciate the lead, very pretty stone! I'm bookmarking/saving it and the site to browse later. Argyle is probably way out of budget but who knows. The 0.17 princess I linked above is argyle with paperwork. I can ask my jeweler for her opinion on a a small Argyle in a less expensive color vs my budget.
Thanks!
 
I asked my jeweler, of the ones we have looked at so far which are her favorite. She said the radiant above and also this pear. For some reason it does not 'excite' me but it is pretty. What do you all think?

It is less than half the price of the radiant above. Strong blue fluoro but she says it does not have a negative effect on the stone.

It is the same color grading and weight and VS2 (the radiant above is VVS1)

 
Sorry for the double post. Here is an option from IBD. What is interesting about it is the intense saturation but relatively light color. Makes me wonder whether the radiant is duller than the pics suggest. Its 0.29ct intense orangey pink, 12k on sale so a kind of over budget.

 
Those last two stones have really impressive cuts (as opposed to the radiant). Can she send you a group video so you can compare them all side-by-side? My only concern about the pear, as gorgeous as it is, is that the strong blue fluor will in fact affect the color in daylight. Blue is the opposite of orange on the color wheel. I can't imagine it won't dull the saturation when fluorescing. Not sure if that is a concern for you. But when I bought a 2ct fancy intense yellow with strong blue fluor, it was a real disappointment outside.
 
If the color is accurate... it's positively gorgeous. I see zero appreciable brown with a definite balance of pink and orange. I don't think we can get too fussy with these types of FCDs, but yes, I would agree that the stone is a tad "mushy" in the middle. It's simply a function of cut, and FCDs aren't always faceted with the precision of white diamonds.

Mushy but also that’s where the color is most concentrated as the lack of white light return allows the body color to show. Trade offs!
 
Those last two stones have really impressive cuts (as opposed to the radiant). Can she send you a group video so you can compare them all side-by-side? My only concern about the pear, as gorgeous as it is, is that the strong blue fluor will in fact affect the color in daylight. Blue is the opposite of orange on the color wheel. I can't imagine it won't dull the saturation when fluorescing. Not sure if that is a concern for you. But when I bought a 2ct fancy intense yellow with strong blue fluor, it was a real disappointment outside.

Well the hunt has just started, so I would rather wait before requesting her to take pics side by side (some stones might have to be shipped around).
The 0.29ct oval is not one of her offerings, its from Ishay Ben David fyi, maybe she could get in contact with them for a video, maybe not.
I am indeed concerned about blue fluoro in the pear; that must be the reason it is lower cost.
Regardless, we will hopefully pick a few stones for a final list and arrange a viewing. It might take a while. Til then its mostly discussing/looking at photos and videos/guessing/hunting, which is part of the fun.
I have only posted the most promising stones here, rejecting the brownish or pale ones off the bat.
 
Well the hunt has just started, so I would rather wait before requesting her to take pics side by side (some stones might have to be shipped around).
The 0.29ct oval is not one of her offerings, its from Ishay Ben David fyi, maybe she could get in contact with them for a video, maybe not.
I am indeed concerned about blue fluoro in the pear; that must be the reason it is lower cost.
Regardless, we will hopefully pick a few stones for a final list and arrange a viewing. It might take a while. Til then its mostly discussing/looking at photos and videos/guessing/hunting, which is part of the fun.
I have only posted the most promising stones here, rejecting the brownish or pale ones off the bat.

Best not to rush and to take your time, as you said. Sounds like a plan, and I look forward to tagging along!
 
GET 3 FREE HCA RESULTS JOIN THE FORUM. ASK FOR HELP

Featured Topics

Top