7000 ct diamond unearthed in SA?

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

 

[mike c]

Hi John

You would have to look at the stone in order to make an identification possible, that being said it looks a lot like a fluorite crystal what do you think?

http://www.thomsonminerals.com/images/Np25FluoriteEastgate.jpg

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[junior35]

You have it all wrong.....it''s fossilized JELL-O lime flavour!

 

[nebe]

You guys are all hilarious.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/29/2007 12:20:07 AM
Author: Regular Guy
guys...let''s get real.

It''s not a diamond at all...

it''s just a very cleverly disguised rabbit.

I''m really trying not to touch this one, Ira. The quips are just waiting...waiting...waiting

 

[stebbo]

Date: 8/28/2007 12:01:39 PM
Author: stebbo
Really brings home how light diamonds are, 70 grams for the size of a coconut! I'd guess a real coconut would be 10 times heavier.

I guess nobody reads my posts...

That should be 1.4kg, not 70g.

A 7000ct diamond would be approximately the size of a 3" cube, not a coconut.

Looking very much like a hoax...

 

[JohnQuixote]

 

[CaptAubrey]

I go away for 24 hours and miss all the fun.

Some of the reports I saw had suggestions from the parties involved that it would take them "about a week" to confirm its identity, which tells me they''re planning to stretch this out as long as possible.

If genuine, I think that it could be identified conclusively in, oh, about five minutes, tops. That it hasn''t been identified by now tells me all I need to know.

 

[mike c]

Hi John

Looks like Mr Brett Jolly the person who has the stone has changed the story , Now he claims he never said it was a diamond.

Maybe!!!!! he found a good way to market the property which he owns.

 

[CaptAubrey]

http://www.miningweekly.co.za/article.php?a_id=115776

And in South Africa, a country that, you know, has a few people who know about diamonds, they''ve apparently felt it necessary to ask WFDB president Ernest Blom to identify the stone.

 

[JohnQuixote]

A week? We'll have a whole movie quoted by then.

Here's the front page of a SA paper with a good sumup.

Date: 8/29/2007 7:50:47 PM
Author: CaptAubrey

...they've apparently felt it necessary to ask WFDB president Ernest Blom to identify the stone.

Trying to balance the credibility scales after the first authority who weighed in maybe?

(tongue-in-cheek).

 

[risingsun]

You started it

A duck!

An aquatic bird that, in medieval times, was used to find out if a person was a witch or not.

This stems from the very logical idea that if a person weighs the same as a duck, then that person is made of wood (because both ducks and wood float in water). And since wood burns (just like witches) then that person must be a witch, because witches are made of wood.

Therefore, the accused person(s) would be placed on a scale next to a duck, and if they balanced, the person(s) would be burned.

So, if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's made of wood. And therefore... A WITCH! [quoted from the Urban Dictionary]

Therefore, the so-called diamond is either a duck, a witch or a piece of wood. I rest my case

 

[Regular Guy]

Date: 8/29/2007 8:37:18 PM
Author: risingsun
Therefore, the so-called diamond is either a duck, a witch or a piece of wood. I rest my case

Yes, there are the five...no...three questions to be concerned about, no doubt.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/29/2007 11:16:31 PM
Author: Regular Guy

Date: 8/29/2007 8:37:18 PM
Author: risingsun
Therefore, the so-called diamond is either a duck, a witch or a piece of wood. I rest my case

Yes, there are the five...no...three questions to be concerned about, no doubt.

Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh

 

[JohnQuixote]

Update: "I never said it was a diamond"

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2173646,00.html

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(brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin)

 

[stebbo]

Interesting John that the former top-rated diamond analyst was a "James Allan" (with an ''a''). I''m sure I read about a Weingarten cutter or something in Antwerp once too.

Thanks for the follow up article.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 9/1/2007 11:17:02 AM
Author: JohnQuixote
Update: 'I never said it was a diamond'

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2173646,00.html

<< Inundated with calls and e-mails over the discovery, Jolly said he was perplexed over the criticism generated by media commentators. 'All I said was that I had a stone. I don't know if it's a diamond, I certainly never said it was,' Jolly said. >>


(brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin)

Don't tempt me

 

[denverappraiser]

This thread’s not dead yet? The black knight lives!

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

 

[Regular Guy]

Well, he does for 4 and 1/2 minutes anyway.

John could be right...

Date: 8/29/2007 8:19:03 PM
Author: JohnQuixote
A week? We''ll have a whole movie quoted by then.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 9/1/2007 6:43:51 PM
Author: Regular Guy
Well, he does for 4 and 1/2 minutes anyway.

John could be right...

Date: 8/29/2007 8:19:03 PM
Author: JohnQuixote
A week? We''ll have a whole movie quoted by then.

It''s just a fleshwound!!

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

come back and i''ll bite yure b....y arms off

 

[risingsun]

Date: 9/1/2007 11:17:25 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
come back and i''ll bite yure b....y arms off

Run away! Run away!

 

[partgypsy]

Come back! It''s only a flesh wound!

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

We`ll call it draw.

 

[partgypsy]

You know, what they really were trying to do was determine the specific gravity of a duck- I mean witch.
Okay, I''ll stop now.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

For those that have noidea what we are discussing

http://images.google.com.au/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enAU232AU233&q=monty+python+black+knight and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(Monty_Python)

 

[Lord Summerisle]

NI!

Ni! Ni! Ni!

 

[crypto-ffm]

although the topic seems to be "dead", i just wanna add something about this notorious crystal. i've made an enlargement of the pic from the bbc online article. some of the articles i read about the "biggest diamond" mentioned that the crystal's shape would resemble the octahedron shape of a diamond. However, when i looked at the bbc-picture, i had that impression that something's wrong with the shape. at the first glance, it looks like an octahedron, but only if one looks at the upper side. the lower side however, seems not to fit this shape.

Now, if you reflect upon the enlarged picture, you can see the reason: it's like an optical illusion. if you look from 'above', the crystal looks like two pyramids put together, but if you look at it from "below" it's different - there seems to be a notch in one side. i'm not sure about the crystal's real shape, but it doesn't look like an octahedron

 

[diagem]

Date: 9/15/2007 8:31:15 AM
Author: crypto-ffm
although the topic seems to be ''dead'', i just wanna add something about this notorious crystal. i''ve made an enlargement of the pic from the bbc online article. some of the articles i read about the ''biggest diamond'' mentioned that the crystal''s shape would resemble the octahedron shape of a diamond. However, when i looked at the bbc-picture, i had that impression that something''s wrong with the shape. at the first glance, it looks like an octahedron, but only if one looks at the upper side. the lower side however, seems not to fit this shape.

Now, if you reflect upon the enlarged picture, you can see the reason: it''s like an optical illusion. if you look from ''above'', the crystal looks like two pyramids put together, but if you look at it from ''below'' it''s different - there seems to be a notch in one side. i''m not sure about the crystal''s real shape, but it doesn''t look like an octahedron

If it was a genuine Diamond..., it be splashed all over the media!!!

As far as shape is..., you are right..., something seems not right when studying the shape based on this image... (but do remember 99% of rough Diamonds are not perfect octa''s)

But please take into consideration that if this so-called 7000+ carat diamond was made of a perfect octahedron..., it would be a RARE live speciment never to be cut!!!

Rarer than any cut Diamond (period).

 

[crypto-ffm]

well, i''m not a gemologist and all i know about diamonds is what i read in wikipedia

so please, let me ask you a question: does this crystal look like a rough diamond at all? Even given the fact, that rough diamonds are usually no octas?