$7000 CAD deal or no deal

[diamond heart]

Report # CA 95906603
shape : round brilliant
Weight : 1.03 ct
Clarity : SI1
Color : E
Cut : Ideal
Measurement : 6.50 - 6.46 x 3.95 mm
Its a single diamond/solataire in 18k white gold setting.
Price : $7000 CAD

Is it a good deal. Need urgent advice closing deal tomorrow

Thanks in advance

 

[swingirl]

There is not enough information. The GIA report is not showing up on the GIA website. Do you have a link to it?

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 1/29/2009 6:36:46 PM
Author: swingirl
There is not enough information. The GIA report is not showing up on the GIA website. Do you have a link to it?

Think in another thread he stated it is an EGL_USA.

I think no deal, much too expensive for an EGL with the associated uncertainties in color and clarity.

Date: 1/29/2009 6:35:37 PM
Author:diamond heart
Need Urgent advice as I will be closing the deal tommo

Carat : 1.03 solataire diamond in 18k white gold ring setting

colour : E

cut : ideal

clarity : SL1

measurement : 6.50 - 6.46 x 3.95 mm

price : $7000 CAD

Certificate : European Gemological Lab USA

Report # CA 95906603

Should I go for it? . Pls advice

 

[diamond heart]

can we ask for the certificate from the jewellery store before we purchase the diamond ?
Also should I ask for only GIA certification ?

 

[stone-cold11]

AGS and GIA have much better consistency in color and clarity grading. AGS cut grading is much better than GIA. If your vendor can find a stone with an AGS Diamond Quality Document with a Cut Grade of AGS0, that would be the best. If not, GIA would do but run the numbers through this tool, https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp, to make sure it is a great performing stone.

Good Luck.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/29/2009 6:55:35 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
AGS and GIA have much better consistency in color and clarity grading. AGS cut grading is much better than GIA. If your vendor can find a stone with an AGS Diamond Quality Document with a Cut Grade of AGS0, that would be the best. If not, GIA would do but run the numbers through this tool, https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp, to make sure it is a great performing stone.

Good Luck.

Again can I remind you that there are great cut and performing GIA graded diamonds out there please, AGS cut grading may be stricter but whether it will necessarily be the ' best' choice for this poster remains to be seen, and to dismiss GIA by saying that such a diamond will ' do' makes it sound a very poor choice indeed and that is not the case. Just for your information, it has been brought up here again recently that certain PSers appear to be recommending only AGS0 diamonds all the time regardless of what the new poster wants, and we need to keep an open mind in order to best serve those who come here for impartial advice. Otherwise the impression can be given with newbies that unless they post top cut and or AGS0 cut grade that we are elitist concerning cut quality and that isn't the impression we want to give. Not everyone wants the best cut diamond money can buy, and there are plenty of beautiful GIA graded diamonds out there. I am very aware that you feel they are the best and in the majority of cases they might well be for the buyer, but not in every instance and we need to keep that in mind. If you think about it, if we keep an open mind and a flexible approach and try to help each poster on an individual basis according to their needs, then we can help even more diamond buyers. And judging from the positive feedback which has been received recently concerning RT, then I think it is fair to assume that trying to cater for everyone as an individual is the right approach. I sincerely hope you take this advice in the way it is meant, to try to help you. When posting here things aren't always as simple as in black and white, there can be grey areas when trying to help and flexibility and an open mind serves the regular poster best in my opinion.

diamondheart, without more info on this diamond we can't tell much about it, if you like this diamond then I would recommend you make the sale final ( and get it in writing that you can return it for any reason if it doesn't check out) that the diamond gets satisfactory results in your opinion from an evaluation from an independant appraiser. Here is a tool you can use to find an appraiser in your area.

https://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 1/30/2009 2:43:07 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/29/2009 6:55:35 PM

Author: Stone-cold11
AGS and GIA have much better consistency in color and clarity grading. AGS cut grading is much better than GIA. If your vendor can find a stone with an AGS Diamond Quality Document with a Cut Grade of AGS0, that would be the best. If not, GIA would do but run the numbers through this tool, https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp, to make sure it is a great performing stone.

Good Luck.

Again can I remind you that there are great cut and performing GIA graded diamonds out there please, AGS cut grading may be stricter but whether it will necessarily be the '' best'' choice for this poster remains to be seen, and to dismiss GIA by saying that such a diamond will '' do'' makes it sound a very poor choice indeed and that is not the case. Just for your information, it has been brought up here again recently that certain PSers appear to be recommending only AGS0 diamonds all the time regardless of what the new poster wants, and we need to keep an open mind in order to best serve those who come here for impartial advice. Otherwise the impression can be given with newbies that unless they post top cut and or AGS0 cut grade that we are elitist concerning cut quality and that isn''t the impression we want to give. Not everyone wants the best cut diamond money can buy, and there are plenty of beautiful GIA graded diamonds out there. I am very aware that you feel they are the best and in the majority of cases they might well be for the buyer, but not in every instance and we need to keep that in mind. If you think about it, if we keep an open mind and a flexible approach and try to help each poster on an individual basis according to their needs, then we can help even more diamond buyers. And judging from the positive feedback which has been received recently concerning RT, then I think it is fair to assume that trying to cater for everyone as an individual is the right approach. I sincerely hope you take this advice in the way it is meant, to try to help you. When posting here things aren''t always as simple as in black and white, there can be grey areas when trying to help and flexibility and an open mind serves the regular poster best in my opinion.

diamondheart, without more info on this diamond we can''t tell much about it, if you like this diamond then I would recommend you make the sale final ( and get it in writing that you can return it for any reason if it doesn''t check out) that the diamond gets satisfactory results in your opinion from an evaluation from an independant appraiser. Here is a tool you can use to find an appraiser in your area.

https://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx

That is your opinion. I can give my opinion right? Or is this forum under some dictatorship that I am unaware of.

This is a novice buyer asking for advice, I am just pointing out the safest way to go about it. You offer your advice I offer mine, what and how they decide to act on it is their choice, it is not up to you to decide what I can say or not so please stop doing that and stop using your years of experience in helping people on the forum as a hammer to bring about my opinion to conform with yours.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/30/2009 3:22:26 AM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 1/30/2009 2:43:07 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/29/2009 6:55:35 PM

Author: Stone-cold11
AGS and GIA have much better consistency in color and clarity grading. AGS cut grading is much better than GIA. If your vendor can find a stone with an AGS Diamond Quality Document with a Cut Grade of AGS0, that would be the best. If not, GIA would do but run the numbers through this tool, https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp, to make sure it is a great performing stone.

Good Luck.

Again can I remind you that there are great cut and performing GIA graded diamonds out there please, AGS cut grading may be stricter but whether it will necessarily be the ' best' choice for this poster remains to be seen, and to dismiss GIA by saying that such a diamond will ' do' makes it sound a very poor choice indeed and that is not the case. Just for your information, it has been brought up here again recently that certain PSers appear to be recommending only AGS0 diamonds all the time regardless of what the new poster wants, and we need to keep an open mind in order to best serve those who come here for impartial advice. Otherwise the impression can be given with newbies that unless they post top cut and or AGS0 cut grade that we are elitist concerning cut quality and that isn't the impression we want to give. Not everyone wants the best cut diamond money can buy, and there are plenty of beautiful GIA graded diamonds out there. I am very aware that you feel they are the best and in the majority of cases they might well be for the buyer, but not in every instance and we need to keep that in mind. If you think about it, if we keep an open mind and a flexible approach and try to help each poster on an individual basis according to their needs, then we can help even more diamond buyers. And judging from the positive feedback which has been received recently concerning RT, then I think it is fair to assume that trying to cater for everyone as an individual is the right approach. I sincerely hope you take this advice in the way it is meant, to try to help you. When posting here things aren't always as simple as in black and white, there can be grey areas when trying to help and flexibility and an open mind serves the regular poster best in my opinion.

diamondheart, without more info on this diamond we can't tell much about it, if you like this diamond then I would recommend you make the sale final ( and get it in writing that you can return it for any reason if it doesn't check out) that the diamond gets satisfactory results in your opinion from an evaluation from an independant appraiser. Here is a tool you can use to find an appraiser in your area.

https://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx

That is your opinion. I can give my opinion right? Or is this forum under some dictatorship that I am unaware of.

This is a novice buyer asking for advice, I am just pointing out the safest way to go about it. You offer your advice I offer mine, what and how they decide to act on it is their choice, it is not up to you to decide what I can say or not so please stop doing that and stop using your years of experience in helping people on the forum as a hammer to bring about my opinion to conform with yours.

I take issue with your advice when it is misleading to new consumers wanting accurate and helpful advice and as I said to you a while back, if you continue to offer inaccurate advice it will be corrected. Recently you have offered such advice on a few occasions and I cannot in good conscience sit back and not point it out - and for the record I am not the only one who has corrected you. We all have to be open to guidance if we are going to post here, even me - and I fully expect someone to step in and advise me if needed - again that is only fair to those who ask for advice and read here in the future. RT is not about US, but the consumer who wants help, and that is what we need to keep at the forefront of our minds - helping them the best way we can even if we have to receive guidance or contructive criticism, then we should be able to accept that in good grace for the benefit of the forum and for those who want that help.

I don't think you understand. Pricescope is here to help new buyers through the process of making probably one of the most expensive purchases of their life. The educational section here is so successful because of the continued efforts of the original Pricescopers and the present time RT regulars, both consumers and experts who laid a solid foundation which can be used by those going through the diamond buying process for many years to come. If posters come along and post what they want, and if that information is not accurate then the integrity of Rocky Talk is called into question and standards slip, then what use is that to the posters who come here to get meaningful info? That is the reason Pricescope came into being in the first place, to give diamond buyers a place to come to find help and RT is the backbone of this website. It is too important not only to them but to me, and to all the long term posters who have seen this site grow and are proud of the part they have played in its success. I have tried to be kind and gently point out when you posted incorrect information and was insulted for my trouble. As time has passed regrettably it would appear nothing has changed.

And again I ask you to stop with the accusations, really. I am not asking you to change your opinion to conform with mine, I am trying to get you to read up and make sure that what you are posting is relevant and accurate before you post it, not to cast doubt where there is no need as in the past and to keep an open mind when offering advice - and also not to go beyond your limitations as a consumer. That is all and that is what is expected of ALL of us who offer advice here - even me. I get it wrong I know many times, but I am always trying to learn and improve, not only for my sake but for those who come here to seek advice. Put yourself in a newbie's shoes, you are incredibly nervous and wanting to buy a diamond - you know nothing about them - and are about to spend a huge amount of money on obtaining one. Wouldn't you want the advice and information you find here to be as accurate and easy to understand as possible? THAT is what I am trying to get at.