5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose gold?

[Acinom]

So... I am in love with the tapered french cut design.
I have received some great help already in my original thread:
www.pricescope.com/.../what-to-do-with-my-5-3-oec-choose-the-leon-mege- design-t189237.html

I am now investigating whether it is possible to have it custom made in Europe. Until sofar it has not been easy:
- french cuts are fairly unknown, even in the 'diamond cities' Antwerp and Amsterdam
- french cuts can be cut, but it will not be easy to get the lower colors (my 5.3 OEC has a warm buttery U colour).

Possibilities are currently investigated.

In the meantime I am thinking about something 'wild':

Do you think it would be nice to have the setting made in rose gold instead of white gold or platinum???
Would like to hear you honest opinions. I mostly wear white gold, but have some rose jewelry, which I love!!!

 

[Acinom]

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The link to my original thread was not copied succesfully. Second try:

www.pricescope.com/.../what-to-do-with-my-5-3-oec-choose-the-leon-mege-design-t189237-30.html

Sorry guys... Don't know how to copy the link...

 

[SB621]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

 

[ruby59]

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[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-to-do-with-my-5-3-oec-choose-the-leon-mege-design.189237/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-to-do-with-my-5-3-oec-choose-the-leon-mege-design.189237/[/URL]

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Platinum definitely. I saw Brightice's tapered french cut setting with large OEC this past weekend and it was spectacular!!! Not sure what her color stone was, but I think it might be something like N? It looked great whatever color it was!

 

[Christina...]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I adore rose gold, but I think I'm leaning toward the crowd and saying white as well. Wow though, I can't wait to see this ring!


Welcome back DS! Missed you! Can't wait to here all about your trip!!!

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

Thanks Sarahbear! And in general... Would you think the tapered design is nice in rose gold in combination with a white stone? Or do you feel the white metals always complements this particular design better?

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Thank you for restoring the link Ruby!!!

Thanks Christina and Diamondseeker!!!
DS: does brightice also has warm coloured melee in her ring or is it combined with white coloured french cuts? I will search for her ring via the search function. The more inspiration rings the better

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Hi, Christina!! I had a fabulous time! If you haven't already seen it, there is a thread about the trip and pics in HangOut!

Acinom...gosh, I did not ask about her french cut color. Her setting originally had a round brilliant and she later changed it to an OEC. Victor Canera made hers, I think. I will look for it, too.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-sophia-french-cut-solitaire-by-victor-canera.161276/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-sophia-french-cut-solitaire-by-victor-canera.161276/[/URL]

Yes, he used lower color french cuts. I will look for a pic with the OEC.

Third from the bottom:

https://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-special-edition-ps-gtg-blingathon-part-one

 

[derbygal]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

On the edge of my seat to see how this turns out!

 

[GreenBling]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted for RG as that would be my choice for warmer stones. And I'm assuming that 1) you like RG for its color, 2) you aren't expecting it to make the diamond look whiter.

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Me too Derbygal

Greenbling: yes, after wearing WG for many years, I've recently discovered RG. I love the combination with WG and I just love the colour.
I do not expect that my stone will look whiter indeed I've tried to see what it looks like when I see some small RG rings together with my stone and I think it would be a good match. This will be my signature ring though, so I need to think about it thoroughly.

The WG complements the 'liquid diamond style' and it's a safe choice as I have seen many photo's here on Pricescope of gorgeous Platinum/WG rings!

The RG complements the warmth of my stone and will be more of a 'statement' since I primarily have WG jewelry.

It's a great dilemma to think about though!

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

My stone in its current setting...

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Playing with colour

 

[SB621]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

Thanks Sarahbear! And in general... Would you think the tapered design is nice in rose gold in combination with a white stone? Or do you feel the white metals always complements this particular design better?

Yes I think with RG you have to have a white stone. If you mix a lower colored diamond with rose gold I feel the stone goes more brown/ grey in color which I don't find desireable at all. If you go with YG or a WG/ PLAT I think that would look much better.

 

[lovebug1031]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

Thanks Sarahbear! And in general... Would you think the tapered design is nice in rose gold in combination with a white stone? Or do you feel the white metals always complements this particular design better?

Yes I think with RG you have to have a white stone. If you mix a lower colored diamond with rose gold I feel the stone goes more brown/ grey in color which I don't find desireable at all. If you go with YG or a WG/ PLAT I think that would look much better.

my e-ring is rose gold with a low stone (O-P), but it's also a light brown O-P, and i wanted to kind of play up that color...but i think it still looks nice.

 

[Acinom]

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Thanks Sarahbear. I wish I could see more examples in person. My little cushion diamond is also set in RG and I am happier with it compared to when it was set in WG, but I am not sure about the colour. It is also a low colour, but not light yellow as my OEC.

I looooove your ring Lovebug A great example of how RG can be combined with a lower color diamond. This was the effect I am striving for! But I understand that your stone is has a brown undertone and not a yellow undertone like mine. Thanks for posting the photo!!!

 

[SB621]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

Thanks Sarahbear! And in general... Would you think the tapered design is nice in rose gold in combination with a white stone? Or do you feel the white metals always complements this particular design better?

Yes I think with RG you have to have a white stone. If you mix a lower colored diamond with rose gold I feel the stone goes more brown/ grey in color which I don't find desireable at all. If you go with YG or a WG/ PLAT I think that would look much better.

my e-ring is rose gold with a low stone (O-P), but it's also a light brown O-P, and i wanted to kind of play up that color...but i think it still looks nice.

LB- I agree if you are trying to play up the color then RG works very well, but I thought in this case the OP was trying to play down the color. My apologies if I misunderstood. I personally love lowered color diamonds, but more on the ivory side vs. colored. I did not mean to offend.

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Well, not every low colored stone has the same hue. Some go towards yellow, some towards brown etc.
In my case I do not want to play up the color. I have the feeling that there is a different contrast between the stone and the setting if it is set in RG compared to WG or platinum. I want to play up the creamy vanilla colour, not the yellow.

Thanks for you honest opinion Sarahbear!!! That is one of the reasons I really like pricescope.
I hope more 'warm diamond/RG setting' lovers also chime in.

 

[misskittycat]

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Resonance of life set her 3.48 O-P antique cushion in a rose gold Bella halo:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-48-carat-antique-cushion-in-bella-halo.180831/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-48-carat-antique-cushion-in-bella-halo.180831/[/URL]

More photos here as she currently has it for sale on JbEG:

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-Vintage/348ct-Antique-Cushion-Cut/28668127_MbbxQv#!i=2432135827&k=NGCgcGh

I think it does play up the colour more. Personal preference and it depends on your stone.

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Resonance of life set her 3.48 O-P antique cushion in a rose gold Bella halo:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-48-carat-antique-cushion-in-bella-halo.180831/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-48-carat-antique-cushion-in-bella-halo.180831/[/URL]

More photos here as she currently has it for sale on JbEG:

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-Vintage/348ct-Antique-Cushion-Cut/28668127_MbbxQv#!i=2432135827&k=NGCgcGh

I think it does play up the colour more. Personal preference and it depends on your stone.

Thank you Misskittycat!!! It's great to have some inspiration. Resonanceoflife's former ring is a beauty. I love this setting by JbEG.

To what extent do you think the colour of the setting in the 'french cut setting' determines the main stone? I ask because the setting is so minimal metal and maximum diamond...

In my current WG setting my stone is sometimes vanilla and buttery, but it can face up really white. This is such a remarkable quality of OEC's which I would like to keep.

 

[CaratLover2]

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If you are trying to play down the colour I would suggest staying with platinum or WG.

I know I trot this thread out all the time - bit here is a thread that shows M stones set in YG - you need to scroll down for a bit, but it's there! [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/m-avc-three-stone-in-yellow-gold.175160/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/m-avc-three-stone-in-yellow-gold.175160/[/URL] The M stones look decidedly yellow - totally gorgeous, of course - but you'd really want to be OK with playing up the colour! I'm sure using a RG setting would have the same affect. So just be careful!!

As to your suggestion that you have it made in Europe - I would strongly recommend staying with LM, VC or SK - as these vendors create this setting regularly! A tapered french cut setting, is not your typical or average setting and I would have reservations going with a relatively unknown jeweller. I say, do it right and do it once. I have to ask you, have you seen one of these tapered french cut settings in person? I think once you've seen a LM, VC or SK's piece close up you'll understand! I could not believe my eyes!!

If for whatever reason you do go with a European jeweller, then ask to see their work in person before you commit to a purchase - and if you have any doubts, then don't!

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Thanks Caratlover!
The jeweller I might work with is the Antwerp headoffice of a UK based company. The UK branch made a ring for a PSer. Not with french cuts but with baguettes. The design is by dr Indira Marchant. Someone posted that she is also active here on Pricescope?

It will not be an easy route as the stones need to be sourced from Israel and recut in Antwerp.
HOWEVER... Lower colours are not available. I do'nt like my creamy stone though in combination with very white stones. And the price is much much higher compared to SK's and VC's prices. And also much higher than LM's prices.

Another solution would be to recut existing cushions and that is currently investigated.

I have never seen the design in real life. I thought about just booking a flight to NY to drop the stone and then come back a few months later as the thought of posting the stone across the ocean gives me a serious headache. Leon has been very helpful via mail and it would be a real experience to work with him. LM and SK can only source higher coloured stones or prices will go up dramatically. VC is able to source lower coloured melee.

If you look at the photo Caratlover and other... Would you think the same technique is used to make this setting compared to the french cut setting??

 

[packrat]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

If you are trying to play down the colour I would suggest staying with platinum or WG.

I know I trot this thread out all the time - bit here is a thread that shows M stones set in YG - you need to scroll down for a bit, but it's there! [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/m-avc-three-stone-in-yellow-gold.175160/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/m-avc-three-stone-in-yellow-gold.175160/[/URL] The M stones look decidedly yellow - totally gorgeous, of course - but you'd really want to be OK with playing up the colour! I'm sure using a RG setting would have the same affect. So just be careful!!

As to your suggestion that you have it made in Europe - I would strongly recommend staying with LM, VC or SK - as these vendors create this setting regularly! A tapered french cut setting, is not your typical or average setting and I would have reservations going with a relatively unknown jeweller. I say, do it right and do it once. I have to ask you, have you seen one of these tapered french cut settings in person? I think once you've seen a LM, VC or SK's piece close up you'll understand! I could not believe my eyes!!

If for whatever reason you do go with a European jeweller, then ask to see their work in person before you commit to a purchase - and if you have any doubts, then don't!

My three stone! They are now reset into unplated white gold, and are even more spectacular, if I do say so myself. [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/packrats-avc-three-stone-and-wedding-band-by-single-stone.180821/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/packrats-avc-three-stone-and-wedding-band-by-single-stone.180821/[/URL] So, that's what I'd vote for. It's not the stark contrast of rhodium-I've never seen platinum irl so I can't comment to that, but the unplated wg is amazingly gorgeous, and super complementary to lower colored stones.

 

[CaratLover2]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

If you look at the photo Caratlover and other... Would you think the same technique is used to make this setting compared to the french cut setting??

That's really difficult to tell from a photo - as far as I know Baguettes have flat (ish) crowns - they are very different from french cuts. I know LM uses the pillow top or high crown french cuts. I don't know about SK. I can tell you that VC can cut his own - that's why he can source lower colour melee, and that he can cut them with flat(ish) tops or with the high crowns. I'm not sure if he cuts all his French cuts - but for a special order, I believe they would be cut specifically to match your stone- I know mine were, as my Sophia has a combination of Ks and Ls in the band. Picture attached, but here is the link - [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-l-avc-high-crown-french-cut-victor-canera-sophia.178947/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-l-avc-high-crown-french-cut-victor-canera-sophia.178947/[/URL]

Let me just say that the french cuts used in a setting like this are a really big deal - they are cut to taper with the main stone, and so they need to be done properly - not only to ensure the taper is correct, but also so that they perform properly. As you are considering using a UK/EU jeweler, I'd want to make sure that a) they'd cut tapered french cut diamonds before as well as having set them in a setting like this before and b) they'll give you your money back if you don't like it. As an aside, if you are after sparkle a french cut setting will not give it to you, as it is very understated - it glints, rather than sparkles - resulting in a very stylish, sophisticated and glamorous ring (IMO)!

I think with this type of setting, because you have a warm stone, the french cuts would also need to be warm too - so that alone would dictate which jeweler I would approach. I love unplated WG - and that is what I originally wanted too, but VC would not make this ring in WG, only platinum.

I notice that you've had this stone re-set several times now - and I can't help but think you might end up approaching a UK/EU based jeweler and regretting it. I know fortune favours the brave, but I get the impression that you'd really like to use one of the US based jewelers and LM in particular. If this is what is what your heart is telling you, then commit to it! I think you'll end up regretting it if you don't - as you really do seem to be having a hard time finding a permanent home for your beautiful stone

Being based in Europe too, I really do understand your reservations - I went through all this with VC!! I get the impression that he's used to dealing with these sorts of high value international transactions, as well as stressed out women!! He always knew exactly what to do!

EDIT: Spelling edit and add pic

 

[Acinom]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

If you look at the photo Caratlover and other... Would you think the same technique is used to make this setting compared to the french cut setting??

That's really difficult to tell from a photo - as far as I know Baguettes have flat (ish) crowns - they are very different from french cuts. I know LM uses the pillow top or high crown french cuts. I don't know about SK. I can tell you that VC can cut his own - that's why he can source lower colour melee, and that he can cut them with flat(ish) tops or with the high crowns. I'm not sure if he cuts all his French cuts - but for a special order, I believe they would be cut specifically to match your stone- I know mine were, as my Sophia has a combination of Ks and Ls in the band. Picture attached, but here is the link - [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-l-avc-high-crown-french-cut-victor-canera-sophia.178947/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-l-avc-high-crown-french-cut-victor-canera-sophia.178947/[/URL]

Let me just say that the french cuts used in a setting like this are a really big deal - they are cut to taper with the main stone, and so they need to be done properly - not only to ensure the taper is correct, but also so that they perform properly. As you are considering using a UK/EU jeweler, I'd want to make sure that a) they'd cut tapered french cut diamonds before as well as having set them in a setting like this before and b) they'll give you your money back if you don't like it. As an aside, if you are after sparkle a french cut setting will not give it to you, as it is very understated - it glints, rather than sparkles - resulting in a very stylish, sophisticated and glamorous ring (IMO)!

I think with this type of setting, because you have a warm stone, the french cuts would also need to be warm too - so that alone would dictate which jeweler I would approach. I love unplated WG - and that is what I originally wanted too, but VC would not make this ring in WG, only platinum.

I notice that you've had this stone re-set several times now - and I can't help but think you might end up approaching a UK/EU based jeweler and regretting it. I know fortune favours the brave, but I get the impression that you'd really like to use one of the US based jewelers and LM in particular. If this is what is what your heart is telling you, then commit to it! I think you'll end up regretting it if you don't - as you really do seem to be having a hard time finding a permanent home for your beautiful stone

Being based in Europe too, I really do understand your reservations - I went through all this with VC!! I get the impression that he's used to dealing with these sorts of high value international transactions, as well as stressed out women!! He always knew exactly what to do!

EDIT: Spelling edit and add pic

Loooove your stone!!! It was already in my file with inspiration pics, but I cannot admire it enough... Thank you for your honest and extensive answer.
The subdued elegance is what I am looking for. Not too bling. My main stone sparkles enormously and the glint is what I am looking for. I am looking for a final home for my stone and I am convinced that this is it!!

Your post made me think... To be honest. The most sensible thing is to work with VC as the lower coloured melee is already in the quote. SK cannot source lower than H if I understand his mail correctly and LM could source them but it would be difficult and the price would skyrocket. The US jewelers have made this design many times before and I noticed that the can 'minimize' the ctw of the melee, although the melee looks quite substantial. For reference: in the first quote the proposal was to use 3.5 ctw of melee for my 5.3 stone. I have asked them to quote a lower ctw.

I a really frantic about letting my stone 'travel'. I should also investigate what customs would charge me?

Thanks for all your kind advice!!! And yes, using non-plated WG is surely a good option! Especially since I have more non-plated WG jewelry. If I decide to have my setting custom made in Europe, I will use all your recommendations. I also want to see the stones before they are set. I like the high top frenchies as they would complement the vintage look of my OEC. Thanks Caratlover!!!!

Your ring is gorgeous Packrat!!! I have seen your 3 stone ring in the YG setting, but I really love your new setting. Non plated WG could also be a good option for my ring. Thanks for posting!!!

 

[CaratLover2]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I a really frantic about letting my stone 'travel'. I should also investigate what customs would charge me?

I know what you mean ... I felt exactly the same!! Because your stone is warm, I really do think VC is the way to go. I'd speak to him and see what he can arrange regarding insurance, transit, delivery arrangements for your stone.

 

[lovebug1031]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

I voted white color because I wasn't sure how the U color would look with rose gold.

Thanks Sarahbear! And in general... Would you think the tapered design is nice in rose gold in combination with a white stone? Or do you feel the white metals always complements this particular design better?

Yes I think with RG you have to have a white stone. If you mix a lower colored diamond with rose gold I feel the stone goes more brown/ grey in color which I don't find desireable at all. If you go with YG or a WG/ PLAT I think that would look much better.

my e-ring is rose gold with a low stone (O-P), but it's also a light brown O-P, and i wanted to kind of play up that color...but i think it still looks nice.

LB- I agree if you are trying to play up the color then RG works very well, but I thought in this case the OP was trying to play down the color. My apologies if I misunderstood. I personally love lowered color diamonds, but more on the ivory side vs. colored. I did not mean to offend.

No offense taken!!! I think i'm just not super color sensitive, not that I can't see it - i think it just doesn't bother me as it does other people..and being set in rose gold, i think just don't notice it!

 

[LibbyLA]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Not a good photo, but this is an EGL-USA M .8 ct. OMC in rose gold (with a GIA J oval in platinum, and it looks pretty darned dirty in this photo--IRL it's really sparkly).

I think the rose gold actually makes my diamond look whiter than it is. Very seldom do I see any tint. I'm really surprised.

liz

 

[shimmer]

Re: 5.3 OEC in French tapered cut design: platinum or rose g

Not a good photo, but this is an EGL-USA M .8 ct. OMC in rose gold (with a GIA J oval in platinum, and it looks pretty darned dirty in this photo--IRL it's really sparkly).

I think the rose gold actually makes my diamond look whiter than it is. Very seldom do I see any tint. I'm really surprised.

liz

Ditto the bolded. I had a J in rose gold and it looked much whiter (as in no tint whatsoever) than my J in platinum.

That said, I have seen baguettes in rose gold and they did not look great, they must have been poorly cut and seemed to absorb the color in a negative way. I *think* frenchies would be different in that they have more facets, but I would want to see a good photo of them resting in rose gold and/or get the opinion of the designer before I made such a decision.