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First off thanks to all for the info on this site, 2nd to none. Now even with all the info theres still so many choices and am looking for some help. I have a $2000 budget for a ROUND diamond... what could I get? Seems like Ideal Cut is the only way to go, thinking a G-H color and VS2 - SI1 clarity is a safe bet. Doesn''t seem like a 3/4 carat is possible (size shes been hinting toward), I guess most likely a very nice 1/2 carat. Any one have any suggestions on some diamonds??? Proposal is in a month when we go to NYC.
 
If the 2K budget does not include a setting you can most likely get close to .7 with your specs.
 
2K does not include setting... it is only for the diamond and would like a company with an upgrade policy if possible but not mandatory.
 
Hi WC,

I would even go to I, because at this size, color won''t show as much. The bigger the stone (over a 1 ct.+) the more it shows. This will allow you a bit more size.
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Not a lot out there, but I found these...

Here''s a nice I, 1738.46 with bankwire. This is a great company to work with, and they have a lifetime upgrade policy should you want to use that.

http://204.17.89.15/diamond/2957/



Another great company, also with lifetime upgrade. 2% off this one.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-292650.htm#


5% off these, since it''s their branded diamond.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-395239.htm


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-292592.htm
 
well, I picked up a .61ct E VS2 AGS0 Hearts and Arrows (they called it that, but at the very least it was really close to it) for 2,000 dollars.

That is pretty close to .75cts but not quite there. The reason I ended up going with colorless and VS2 is because I was particularly concerned with how the diamond looked from the side view in an open setting--not as much as from the top, but I wanted every view of the diamond to be perfect for her.


I first purchased a .61ct H VS2 that from the side when held up against a light colored background I felt that it was a little "warm" or yellow, and I also found that the inclusion on the VS2 was visible from the side.

Since I have been out studying more diamonds since then I can, in some lightings, now pretty readily identify an H, even from the face up, and especially when it is side by side with another color. but what this really means is that, to my eyes at least, an H looks white, it really does, but it isn''t REALLY REALLY white. So unless she has spent alot of time learning and looking at diamonds she will probably never think that her H is anything but white, its not a color she is going to think is "tainted," but if you go lower than H, well, I would see it very clearly, and some people it would bother less than others, and some I''s and some J''s look better than others for a variety of reasons. But online I would really hesitate to recommend going below H, though I can understand that many do. But anyway, back to the topic, she won''t see an H as being tainted I don''t believe, and in some situations the diamond will be giving enough White Light return that the Ideal cut itself will wow her take her breath away. But what I have found with higher colorless like F and E is that the exceptionally white nature of them causes for people, including her I think, to notice and to say things such as "wow, that is really white!" whereas with an H they feel it is white but not exceptionally--but this is a situation where a little more size given by purchasing an H might be more valuable than ocassionally feeling that her diamond is "exceptional white."

So I would recommend anything from H to E where you know she won''t see any of them as yellow, but will be more and more captivated by the crisp whiteness as it increases, and more and more impressed by size as it decreases. Making F/G probably the best options in my opinion.


As to clarity, well you saw as I said above, my first VS2 was visibly included from the side, my second was not visibly included from the side. Niether of them were visibly included face up, yet on a rare occasion with RBs VS2 can sometimes have visible inclusions even face up.

With SI1, you frequently get inclusions visible from the face up, and frequently get inclusions that are NOT visible face up. Then more frequently than not the inclusions can be seen from the side, and sometimes they can not be seen even from the side view.

Thus, I would first recommend dropping to SI1 and trying to find one that is eyeclean up to YOUR standards. If you don''t care about the side view overly much then there will be a plethora of options available for you, just have your vendor look at it and give his/her opinion with some guidance of any particular standards you might have. If you are concerned with the side view your options may end up being limited and it might be best to go with a VS2 in order to maximize your cut/color options.

However, if I can find an AGS0 hearts and arrows .61ct E VS2 within your budget, I am positive you can adjust some of those stats and get her 3/4 of a ct, or even a little bit more, within your budget! but I took so long typing this, I am getting back to my book and will help you hunt later if you still need it!
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oh, and one other thing...ugh, I really wanted to get back to my book. I would recommend sticking with GIA and AGS. But amongst those I found that most of the GIA graded diamonds you will be looking at in this budget will NOT include inclusion plots--they usually have inscriptions on the girdle but for an online purchase I was personally nervous about that (though I had no reason to be), and you will find that the easiest way to get a top of the line cut is to aim for AGS0--though you can find GIA Excellents within AGS0 parameters and those can be just as good of options. Also, though this is really not important at all, the GIA certs will just be a little tiny laminated paper on which the certification is written, whereas the AGS DQD will come in this big sexy smooth black folder type thing, that I felt made the diamond look more valuable to the uninformed (like your Future Fiance)



But the inclusion plot was very important to me--getting an independent appraisal is always nice, but for a diamond this price it isn''t always the easiest thing to do if there isn''t someone that lives near you that can do it. Therefore, and this is written from my perspective as a consumer, so far I have alot of faith in the PS vendors, especially Whiteflash and Jamesallen.com, if you get one with a GIA cert you may not have a plot inclusion to verify that your diamond is infact the one on the certificate, I would personally have always been a little bit uncertain. But if you get the AGS documentation it will have a plot inclusion, then if you are working with a vendor you can trust most of the stress will be taken out, and then when you get the diamond you can bring out a loupe and check for the inclusions yourself, the placement of them, what they look like and what is drawn on the document, then check fluo with a black light, find a symmetry scope somewhere and check that the symmetry matches what you would expect, and if you order it loose you can take it somewhere and check the ct weight. If all of that matches the cert, well then you should feel pretty confident and save you the trouble of driving 5 hours to an appraiser and paying for him to verify it for you--which could end up being a pretty large % of your overall purchase (that was my case anyway)

Alright, time to get back to my book, for good or bad that is a little bit of my words, a consumer much like yourself who just recently finished his own diamond hunt and proposed.
 
well, I haven't had much time to look yet, but I ran a quick search on the PS search and brought up these, dont forget this is before the PS discounts, some of which are well under your price mark and some right on it, but remember the PS discount is going to shave off a good 50-100 dollars on each of the prices you will see when you click the links, for exactly how much just ask them or run a PS search (i didn't copy the discount prices at the time I ran the search). All of the following are AGS0 diamonds, I think all with a DQD.

.65ct G SI1

.61 F VS2 2040

another .61 E SI1 1940

.60 F SI1 1645

There are also some closer to .75cts with an I color search, such as this,

.72ct I VS1, a little deep though, but it cost 2,064 with PS discount, not 2218 like the website says (but again, don't forget to apply a similar discount to the other stones)


then of course you have the option of raising your budget a little bit up to 2500 dollars and picking something like this

.74 H SI1 2570, or small variety of options of varying color/clarity around .7-.74cts for 2500


That was all just based on a quick PS search, I might check individual sites later and see if they have anything else listed. I know I saw a few lower H SI near the .75 ct mark around 2k-2,200 a few months ago, hopefully some more will show up somewhere. Something else to consider is what type of setting you are getting. If you are going budget on the setting WF seems to have the best deals for settings. While you could buy from them and ship to another vendor from whom you purchase your diamond, that adds in shipping and other fees, so it might up working out that you could buy from them and get the cheaper setting from them (though no less quality) and end up with some valid white flash options around the .75ct range, especially if you can find one without a DQD but with excellent stats and information, for the same TOTAL price, though over your budget on the diamond alone. So, some setting information could be useful to determine what your best options are if you have any ideas on setting yet?
 
Sorry I havent replied sooner, 1st chance to get on computer w/ GF not around. We actually looked at some rings yesterday while at the mall, her idea : ) So anyway she wasn''t set on a 3/4 carat, she tried on some 1/2 carats and loved them. she said shes concerned more with quality then quanity. I was wondering why the .61 F VS diamond recommended above from JAllen did not show on the cut quality search? So does everybody think this is the highest quality stone under or right around $2000 thats over .5 carats?

Thanks to all for the adivce and help!
 
this one is pretty solid too, and while being less ct weight it isn't much less in mm width at all and would provide you with more information and a nicer box and some higher quality tools come along with it. so might be worth looking into.

http://whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-347683.htm

it looks to be 2,082 with the money wire transfer, a little more expensive, a little less ct weight and mm width, but I would personally have a hard time deciding between the two, and while I bought from Jamesallen if I had to decide quickly I would probably get that one from WF.

though I will say this, as I always do, consider what they look like from the profile view and determine how important that is to you, and then ask WF and JA how the inclusions look from the side view. Some don't care at all, but others do, so I mention it fairly frequently.


and again, can you give us any idea of the setting you are looking at?
 
I would also ask about this one:

http://whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-277578.htm

Other than that they have alot of options available with GIA certs but as you know in most cases we can't view the certs. Thus, I say call them up and tell them what you are looking for. Now, if you want hearts and arrows ACA brandname there isn't much need to have them help you search because you can see those online, but if you want something comparable to an AGS0 hearts and arrows, but without bearing the additional price burden of the ACA name, or just something close enough that visually there is no difference but lacking some of the optical symmetery perfection, fluo requirements, etc, yet still with very high cut/color/clarity/ct weight, then you would really need there assistance in that, I would think, as they simply don't offer enough information online for us to do it for ourselves.

and while I say if your fiance is more interested in quality than size don't go below G VS2 or at least a VERY clean and nice G SI1, you still ought to go and check out some I colors for yourself (in various lighting) and make sure you know what you are paying for (or paying not to have).
 
Leapinghorse, the WF option you showed is definitely not in hand...as it says call for availability. Mondera's is probably virtual, though they're not mentioned here very often, so who knows.

Virtual...not virtual...what's the difference, and does it matter?

Jim at James Allen apparently has his hands on a lot of diamonds. He's partnered with a NY supplier of diamonds, such that he can in good conscience say they're in house. Now...is it meaningful that he can say that? I don't know how much he knows about these. But...how much does he have to know.

Also, now that he has these "in house," how much will he bring to bear for you to compare options "within his own hosue" to compare them for you. And, who will do this comparing, and what rigor will they bring to the process? All questions, tbd.




Date: 9/23/2007 2:14:51 PM
Author: WC
I was wondering why the .61 F VS diamond recommended above from JAllen did not show on the cut quality search? So does everybody think this is the highest quality stone under or right around $2000 thats over .5 carats?
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Jim's also got this one? These are not in the search by cut db for reasons that, as of last I checked, Jim doesn't know, maybe, either, but somehow he's hooked up with Pricescope, and probably he and Sergey are trying to figure out how to present as many of them as they can. (Well, actually, I'm not sure that either Jim or Sergey are working on this at all, but I too have voiced my frustration about that to Jim, so maybe or maybe not it's on his to do list). Is it better than the one you and Working pointed to? The one I've posted, seen on Jim's website under his signature series has an Idealscope associated with it. (But...it's only on their signature chart..you won't see it with the diamond). The other one you and Working point to does not have an IS. Does this matter? Also, does Jim know if it matters? It's unclear what decision process goes into what gets posted with what, to me.

But, what does it come down to. Both have AGS0 certificates, both are above .6 carats. Working says he'd go for the WF one first. I might like to hear why. With WF & GOG, you know more about the basis for which their diamonds are brought into inventory. But...how much do you have to know?

You've got some good choices. Looks like at least a couple of vendors will be available to you. I've lost track a bit here...can the putting together with the ring part help assist the choice.

(edited to add)...looks like Working's brought forward also options from Angara, that don't get noted here too much. And, he's brought forward an option from WF, not in house. Of course...these different vendors bring other benefits variously to the table, including a) trade-up options, if you care about that sort of thing, and b) length of time you can review the diamond before committing to it before returning it, and such. Once deciding to work with a vendor, particularly like WF, bringing in an out of house option can make sense, to increase your options. Likewise, JA can do that for you, too with several options. But again, you probably want to know who compared options for you, and how they compared them (on a computer screen, a data look up of some sort, or in their hand...and if in their hand...who did the comparing, and maybe what training they that they brought to the comparison process). But...well...don't be TOO hard on them. These are just some questions that could be raised.

Best wishes,
 
Well, they will get an IS image for you no doubt about that.

there are several reasons why I would pick the WF option in this case, and many of those you named above Ira.

The IS image data has gotten a little messed up on the new site, its seems to only be available on the search engine and it isn't available on many of the "hearts and arrows" diamonds, making me wonder even more what the heck they are calling hearts and arrows, they not take an IS image when they had it in hand and identified it as a Hearts and Arrows?

The fact is that most of these diamonds are going to be housed in NY but if you want your sales associate or the in house gemologist who you can speak with to look at it they are going to have to ship it to Maryland first to do so (though I don't think they will charge you to have this done) which makes it awfully similar to a virtual diamond.

they also don't have a system set up to take hearts images so in truth you can't be 100% sure of what you are getting in terms of optical images, though I saw mine and it was a pretty solid hearts image to my eyes.

the Sarin is just as useful as not having it as it certainly doesn't give any more information than the AGS report does, and in the end will give you different numbers and all they can say about it is "AGS sarin numbers trump our in-house sarin numbers" and true enough it does.

They also don't have actual images of all the "inhouse" hearts and arrows diamonds they are offering, such as the one I suggested, which makes a slight delay in getting everything done.

Now in all of these regards the I am positive they will get you almost all of that information within one day if you ask for it. They got me all the information I wanted and it was enough for me to make a purchase confidently.


I also have to say that in my experience they had incredible customer service. I was under a MAJOR time constraint. However, I sent them a shank to have crown work done and my diamond set, they charged me a VERY reasonable price of 150 dollars for a platinum head AND all of the labor. Now, they did a marvelous job throughout, working with me all along, they did a number of things for me they didn't really have to do-- altering my shank into a comfort fit when it wasn't one to begin with, raising the prongs up an extra mm for me and having it sit flush with the taper of my ring and of course the basic crown work, so I was very pleased with the service overall.

However, in the end, my shank is crooked. And why did it happen? because they didn't do the work in Maryland where Jim and the people I spoke with work, but they had to send it to NY to get it done, and while I was told that there in-house gemologist would take a long at it and Jim would send me pictures before it was sent out to me, with the additional days shipping my time constraints became so much that the good people in Maryland were unable to look at it before it was sent back to me. This wasn't there fault at all, but it was a result of my tim constraints COMBINED with the fact that they worked in a different location than their diamonds and ring repair were located.

So, if you have ample time that system would certainly work well, as there are plenty of JA employees you can speak with who are highly trustworthy and will work hard to make sure that you and your fiance are very very happy. thus if you have the time to play the mail game they can be just as good and trustworthy has WF, to be sure.

but then, there was one final matter that pushes me over the edge towards the Whiteflash camp.

When my diamond came it was packaged secuily and double boxed. But inside that second box was a yellow envelope, sealed, and inside was the AGS report, ring box, a little base model Ideal scope (which scratched really easily and doesn't work now), a very cheap Symmetery scope (which broke very quickly somehow, not sure how, thus I don't have it either), and my diamond wrapped up which I almost lost when I first opened the folder because all of it was just tossed together with no organization at all into the envelope. Literally just thrown into the envelope, the diamond wrapped in its paper along with everything else. Kind of disappointing impression to tell the truth.

Add the fact that Whiteflash ACA materials are packaged much better and just all around allow for a much better presentation and alot more confidence as a consumer. Combine that little extra ontop of all of what I said above and I am going to have to say for any quick decisions if WF has a comparable alternative you should get it instead.


But then there is one more thing to consider, if time allows, that would have swayed me to James allen regardless of all of that:) Whiteflash offers discounts with a money wire transfer--James allen gives you the discount even if you use a credit card.

What this meant to me was I was able to get 5% off form JA. Then two new credit cards. On one I got 6months zero percent APR and 1% cash back on the other I got 12,000 Bonus AA miles with one free companion airline ticket on a future flight over 499 dollars. Meaning it gave me enough miles to fly to Japan this christmas break and a free ticket for me and my fiance to fly to and back from japan one summer after we are married.

So I got the 5% discount, 1 free ticket to japan (about 1,000 dollars) and enough miles to get me there for free this Christmas (that % of the ticket was a good 250 bucks), along with 0% apr and 1% back on the other half of the expense (allowing me to keep some money in my bank account since I was about to be broke after heading to Japan this summer).

for me, saving 1300 dollars from credit cards along with 6% cash back and 0%APR would be enough to sway me into the James Allen camp any day, so long as I had time to get a new credit card. and all I had to pay was a disorganized envelope, a moment of panic when I couldn't find the diamond, a shortly thereafter broken symmetry scope and scratched Ideal scope (I should have been more careful though), and well, and most upsetting to me--a crooked ring that could have been fixed if I had had more time or she lived in America. but that would probably have required getting it insured and then mailing it back.

4 weeks though?? The white flash option appeals to me more then, depending on who has the setting you like the most.

and so I ask you again, what settings are you looking at? that is certainly not something you should be ignoring when on a time limit, and could very easily determine from whom you should make your diamond purchase.
 
Looking for a classic Tiffany 4 or 6 prong setting. Not sure what difference the setting makes, I'll let you guys educate me on that. Looks like JAllen and WF has similar prices on the same setting, but yes time is a factor, I'd like the ring in hand with 3 weeks. Wow.. the info everyone is giving me is amazing. Thanks!
 
Date: 9/23/2007 4:35:31 PM
Author: WC
Looking for a classic Tiffany 4 or 6 prong setting. Not sure what difference the setting makes, I''ll let you guys educate me on that. Wow.. the info everyone is giving me is amazing. Thanks!
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well, when you say classic Tiffany, do you mean a REAL classic tiffany like this one:

http://whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/Classic-tiffany-style-Knife-Edge_1137.htm

or the budget version for:



http://whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/6-Prong-tiffany-style_993.htm# (also available in 4prong)

and that is important because as you will see you have the option of getting that one in 14K WG/ Palladium alloy for 195 or 18k WG/Palladium alloy with Platinum head for 295.



http://www.jamesallen.com/products/item_57-1904.asp here is JA version (though they have a new one you can see on the site that is six prong with a taper and basket for 300, but this one is 260 without a platinum head (WG head) and it is a Nickel alloy, to which she might be alergic (or might now) and it will naturally be more yellow than the palladium alloy (though that doesn''t matter much after its all rhodium plated)

Anyway, if you choose the WF version in 14k you can save some save some money on the ring and get rid of the nickel in place of the superior palladium. Obviously if you want 18K its not as important unless she is allergic to palladium, and I bet JA can substitute a platinum head for a similar price if you want, but WF might be cheaper in 18k in that case, and those price differences have to be figured into the differences in loose diamond prices, so don''t forget them.
 
Date: 9/23/2007 4:14:59 PM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards

However, in the end, my shank is crooked. And why did it happen? because they didn''t do the work in Maryland where Jim and the people I spoke with work, but they had to send it to NY to get it done, and while I was told that there in-house gemologist would take a long at it and Jim would send me pictures before it was sent out to me, with the additional days shipping my time constraints became so much that the good people in Maryland were unable to look at it before it was sent back to me. This wasn''t there fault at all, but it was a result of my tim constraints COMBINED with the fact that they worked in a different location than their diamonds and ring repair were located.
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I too had a problem with the way the diamond was held by the setting when I worked with JA, this was caught by my appraiser...Jim''s sales associate at the time (now four years ago) was happy to have me have this taken care of locally, by my local jeweler, on my dime, and that''s what I did. (There was no time constraint issue on my part that I was up against, and I did not demand Jim make his piece corrected...I just gave his office the chance to make good on it).

At the time, their setting work was done by a person he had a relationship with in Texas. Now, it sounds from Working like it is being done by their associate in NY. And...where is the gemologist? Who will look at it...a guy in MD...or NY?

it is confusing.

Particularly, though, when the diamond represents the greater portion of your expense, Jim offers good value, and I think the option of a confirmed AGS0, and additionally, sometimes automatically, sometimes by request, of an IS, makes this frequently an irresistible option.

More than an issue with quality control, which I''ve said for a long time...Jim offers you the safety net determined by only the amount of concern you are able to identify and bring to bear, based on what you''ve learned you want to be concerned about. In this same way, it''s said that sometimes Jim is a drop shipper, and sometimes he''s not. I think that he will bring to bear the resources necessary to make the deal, though, as a pattern, no more...and, when possible...less. Likewise, and in comparison, WF has a company policy to not drop ship, and to only first confirm the diamond''s suitability for purchase.

To an extent, there is a slippery slope. Who will look at your diamond at WF, if you ask them to compare options? Is it by a gemologist? Routinely? Probably one of their top people, or their top person, only if you ask for it...but not if you don''t. To an extent, any organization works with this flexibility.

Frequently, discounts and value come with potential shortcomings (mitigated by your knowing more exactly what you want, and your demanding it), and likewise, when you pay a modest premium, you can frequently expect smoother sailing...which is some of what you pay for.

Each program has things to like about them, and things which can be improved. For better or worse, I''ll occasionally share my mind about this. Hopefully, this is all to a good purpose.

Regards,
 
I was thinking of the tiffany platinum 6 prong that was $495 at WF.
 
Date: 9/23/2007 5:18:13 PM
Author: WC
I was thinking of the tiffany platinum 6 prong that was $495 at WF.
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Isn''t the most comparable JA version 700 dollars?
 
Well I decided on this one that Working recommened from above. Like I said my GF was more concerned with quality and not size, at least for now
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This seems like a nice quality diamond. There were some diamonds from JAllen that were a little cheaper but for some reason i felt better going through WF.

I had WF have a gemologist look at it, here is reply "This diamond is 100% eye clean. The inclusion cannot be seen from the side view. The one small inclusion that is located near the girdle is so very small that it almost undetectable with a 10x loupe so even if it is not covered by a prong, it will not be a visible factor. The inclusion is in such a location that it is possible to be covered with a prong as long as it does not cause the inscription to be covered as well.

One more thing, my GF likes the 6 prong look better than the 4 prong. she feels the 6 prong gives the diamond a more rounded look. Is 6 prong not ideal on something under 1 carat? Will it cover too much of the diamond?

http://whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-347683.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/6-Prong-tiffany-style_993.htm

Thanks to all!
 
Congrats on the stone! I like six prongs and agree about the roundness... but I would make sure to tell the vendor that I wanted them as delicate as possible. : )
 
Not sure what you mean by "delicate as possible". Can you explain more?
 
At the size diamond you''re getting, 6 prongs are going to eat up a lot of real estate on the diamond face. I''d opt for the 4 prong, personally.
 
Date: 9/25/2007 2:35:37 PM
Author: Nicki
At the size diamond you're getting, 6 prongs are going to eat up a lot of real estate on the diamond face. I'd opt for the 4 prong, personally.
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A sweet F VS2 (can you tell that I own one!
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) over half a carat in a simple solitaire. Very nice. I agree about going with 4 prongs. Or make the prong tips on the 6 prong as small as possible and still do the job. The idea is you want to see the diamond and the sparkle, not a lot of metal.

Be sure to come back with pictures.
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6 prong will be too overpowering for this size of diamond. You want to showcase this beauty of a stone, not overpower it with prongs.
 
Just a different opinion here from a half carat with 6 prong owner
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, the prongs look great and in no way detract from the diamond, nor do the others I have seen, so if you want 6 prongs then I am sure it will be fine.
 
Date: 9/25/2007 2:04:09 PM
Author: WC


One more thing, my GF likes the 6 prong look better than the 4 prong.
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Well, to be honest, it should be out of your hands now. It is great and all to argue over benefits of four and six prong, but once you have this kind of insider information, you make it happen.

and for over 50points, well, I still like 4 more personally, but I think six is ok, (less than 50 and its just getting way too crowded)--but really, what are you going to say to her when you give her a setting different than what what she personally informed you that she wanted? (assuming she must have)
and I am not at all saying this to "pick" on you or anything, so I hope I am not offending you, but:

"workinghardforsmallrewards and some others suggested I should get 4prongs, so I figured I should ignore what you wanted because I know better than you anyway." I don''t imagine that to be a very good way to start out a marriage.
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So I say, relax, get the woman what she wants now and if she wants a setting change/upgrade whatever in the future, work to help take care of her, she is going to be your wife
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Date: 9/26/2007 12:22:31 PM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards

Date: 9/25/2007 2:04:09 PM
Author: WC


One more thing, my GF likes the 6 prong look better than the 4 prong.
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Well, to be honest, it should be out of your hands now. It is great and all to argue over benefits of four and six prong, but once you have this kind of insider information, you make it happen.

and for over 50points, well, I still like 4 more personally, but I think six is ok, (less than 50 and its just getting way too crowded)--but really, what are you going to say to her when you give her a setting different than what what she personally informed you that she wanted? (assuming she must have)
and I am not at all saying this to ''pick'' on you or anything, so I hope I am not offending you, but:

''workinghardforsmallrewards and some others suggested I should get 4prongs, so I figured I should ignore what you wanted because I know better than you anyway.'' I don''t imagine that to be a very good way to start out a marriage.
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So I say, relax, get the woman what she wants now and if she wants a setting change/upgrade whatever in the future, work to help take care of her, she is going to be your wife
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Truer words were never spoken. I would listen to the soon-to-be fiancee. She''s expressed a preference. A wise man listens.
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This is more info than I could have ever imagined I get. Thanks to everyone, especially WorkingFor! I ordered the ring in the 6 prong yesterday because like you said, it comes down to what she wants. I didn''t want her to look at the ring and say its great but have her wonder how would it have looked like in the 6 prong setting that she really wanted.
 
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