3.81 F - VS2 Round X X N GIA

[KingsDude]

Looking to change out my wife's natural 1.77 with a 3.5+ round and I have my local jeweler who has this diamond for me.

I'm in NO RUSH so I can wait for as long as necessary, but this seems to be a pretty good deal at $10,500 for a GIA certified diamond.

I've been looking at some on GemsNY and other sites and haven't found many that are similar to this (can probably get a 3.55 G/H - VS2 IGI for around $8,200) but for an F-GIA, this seems like a pretty solid deal?

What do you all think?

 

[DejaWiz]

Hi, KingsDude.
A 41° PA usually doesn't play very well with a 35.5° CA, so I recommend that you have it assessed with an Ideal-Scope or ASET scope to make sure there isn't any light leakage occurring.
If it were a 40.4-40.6° CA, then I'd say it would be a much safer CA/PA combination.

 

[KingsDude]

Hi, KingsDude.
A 41° PA usually doesn't play very well with a 35.5° CA, so I recommend that you have it assessed with an Ideal-Scope or ASET scope to make sure there isn't any light leakage occurring.
If it were a 40.4-40.6° CA, then I'd say it would be a much safer CA/PA combination.

What an expert response!! Thank you so much for your expertise here DejaWiz. Your input is immensely appreciated!

Any other good hunts in this same realm that you like?

 

[DejaWiz]

What an expert response!! Thank you so much for your expertise here DejaWiz. Your input is immensely appreciated!

Any other good hunts in this same realm that you like?

I'll do some scouring here in couple hours when the dust settles from work and I'm back at home.
More to come.

 

[Kim N]

This one is HPHT with good proportions.

3.74 Carat Round Diamond Ideal Cut F Color VS1 Clarity

www.withclarity.com

And a couple CVD.

SOLD ITEM 3.51 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | F COLOR | VS2 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1234850 | The Art Of Jewels

3.51 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | F COLOR | VS2 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1234850

theartofjewels.com

SOLD ITEM 3.62 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | G COLOR | VS1 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1005801 | The Art Of Jewels

3.62 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | G COLOR | VS1 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1005801

theartofjewels.com

 

[KingsDude]

This one is HPHT with good proportions.

3.74 Carat Round Diamond Ideal Cut F Color VS1 Clarity

www.withclarity.com

And a couple CVD.

SOLD ITEM 3.51 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | F COLOR | VS2 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1234850 | The Art Of Jewels

3.51 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | F COLOR | VS2 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1234850

theartofjewels.com

SOLD ITEM 3.62 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | G COLOR | VS1 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1005801 | The Art Of Jewels

3.62 CARAT Round | LAB-GROWN DIAMOND | G COLOR | VS1 CLARITY | super cut CUT | IGI CERTIFIED | STOCK ID: 1005801

theartofjewels.com

Thank you so much for the search!

I've heard some negative things about the longevity of the HPHT diamonds but you guys would know way better than I would.

Do you think those CVD's are actually better than the one I showed above for $10,500 depending on if there is leakage?

I have got the guy at Brilliance trying hard to get me to buy a comparable diamond and he keeps offering me 15% off but I would never buy something without running it by the professionals here .

Thanks again for all of your help!! Looking forward to seeing what other options DejaWiz is able to source

[PS - you guys should charge for your services hah.. it's well worth it!]

 

[Kim N]

Thank you so much for the search!

I've heard some negative things about the longevity of the HPHT diamonds but you guys would know way better than I would.

Do you think those CVD's are actually better than the one I showed above for $10,500 depending on if there is leakage?

I have got the guy at Brilliance trying hard to get me to buy a comparable diamond and he keeps offering me 15% off but I would never buy something without running it by the professionals here .

Thanks again for all of your help!! Looking forward to seeing what other options DejaWiz is able to source

[PS - you guys should charge for your services hah.. it's well worth it!]

What negative things did you read about the longevity of HPHT diamonds? HPHT is the closest to how the earth produced diamonds, so I'm curious what you read.

It's highly likely that the F VS2 GIA stone you posted has leakage based on the proportions. So I do think the CVDs I posted will be better.

If you like any of the Brilliance diamonds, go ahead and post here for feedback!

 

[DejaWiz]

Here is one to inquire about availability, although it is showing "not available" at Adiamor.

3.61 carat (ct) GIA Round Loose Diamond E Color VS1 Clarity Excellent Cut

www.b2cjewels.com

 

[molecule]

@KingsDude There is a difference between lab grown diamonds that are synthesized via HPHT and natural diamonds that are treated with HPHT to improve their statistics.

 

[KingsDude]

Here is one to inquire about availability, although it is showing "not available" at Adiamor.

3.61 carat (ct) GIA Round Loose Diamond E Color VS1 Clarity Excellent Cut

www.b2cjewels.com

Looks like it is still available. Pics will be here on Monday but the cert is attached!

 

[DejaWiz]

Looks like it is still available. Pics will be here on Monday but the cert is attached!

I think it has tremendous potential.
You'll have to reach out to B2C and ask about availability for this specific diamond, because it may not be available in a physical sense due to their inventory being strictly virtual (like most sellers)...their website may show available, but there's no telling how often that they sync their site to their vendors stock. Since Adiamor and Javda are both showing this one as not available, then it may have been sold recently.

 

[KingsDude]

I think it has tremendous potential.
You'll have to reach out to B2C and ask about availability for this specific diamond, because it may not be available in a physical sense due to their inventory being strictly virtual (like most sellers)...their website may show available, but there's no telling how often that they sync their site to their vendors stock. Since Adiamor and Javda are both showing this one as not available, then it may have been sold recently.

I called him and he definitely told me it was available still and he's going to get me pictures on Monday. If it is available, you like this one a lot more for the price right?

 

[DejaWiz]

I called him and he definitely told me it was available still and he's going to get me pictures on Monday. If it is available, you like this one a lot more for the price right?

If the pictures/videos do it justice, then I think it would be a winner.

 

[KingsDude]

If the pictures/videos do it justice, then I think it would be a winner.

Will have them to you Monday

 

[DejaWiz]

Will have them to you Monday

Here's a link to the showcase video...Looks promising!

Loupe360

loupe360.com

 

[KingsDude]

Here's a link to the showcase video...Looks promising!

Loupe360

loupe360.com

"friend" that's a jeweler says it's only worth $6,769 and prices are going to drop on all LGD because they're going to their own "rap sheet".

Is this true story?

 

[DejaWiz]

"friend" that's a jeweler says it's only worth $6,769 and prices are going to drop on all LGD because they're going to their own "rap sheet".

Is this true story?

Who knows? Nobody does, definitively.
LGD will continue to drop over time, but with the ongoing pandemic that has resulted in supply constraints of LGD rough and labor shortages for cut and polishing, the market is next to impossible to predict right now. If another strain comes about and ends up being a particularly nasty one, then diamonds prices could increase a good bit. It's all guesswork right now.
If you like what you see at the going prices today, then be a buyer.
If you want to hang back and see how the market plays out over the next 6, 9, 12, or 18 months, then wait.
No wrong choice, as diamonds will always be available.

 

[lovedogs]

Who knows? Nobody does, definitively.
LGD will continue to drop over time, but with the ongoing pandemic that has resulted in supply constraints of LGD rough and labor shortages for cut and polishing, the market is next to impossible to predict right now. If another strain comes about and ends up being a particularly nasty one, then diamonds prices could increase a good bit. It's all guesswork right now.

This

 

[KingsDude]

Here's a link to the showcase video...Looks promising!

Loupe360

loupe360.com

You called it! Definitely sold already.

Not in a rush at all and definitely want a "DejaWiz Certified Diamond ©"

 

[DejaWiz]

You called it! Definitely sold already.

Not in a rush at all and definitely want a "DejaWiz Certified Diamond ©"

Bummer...that's the most frustrating thing with virtual inventory: many sellers that list them don't adequately refresh their data feeds to see which diamonds come and go from their suppliers.

We'll help you with the hunt!

 

[DejaWiz]

KingsDude, jump on the horn with FD and confirm availability then put it on hold/reserve immediately...or just buy it!

diamond-L34-95EL | Frank Darling

Sustainably grown lab diamonds and conflict-free natural diamonds. Shop competitively priced GIA diamonds in every shape, from emerald cut to round brilliant.

frankdarling.com

 

[KingsDude]

KingsDude, jump on the horn with FD and confirm availability then put it on hold/reserve immediately...or just buy it!

diamond-L34-95EL | Frank Darling

Sustainably grown lab diamonds and conflict-free natural diamonds. Shop competitively priced GIA diamonds in every shape, from emerald cut to round brilliant.

frankdarling.com

On it!

 

[KingsDude]

KingsDude, jump on the horn with FD and confirm availability then put it on hold/reserve immediately...or just buy it!

diamond-L34-95EL | Frank Darling

Sustainably grown lab diamonds and conflict-free natural diamonds. Shop competitively priced GIA diamonds in every shape, from emerald cut to round brilliant.

frankdarling.com

You like this one better than above even though it's about 10% smaller (3.81 vs 3.52)?

 

[DejaWiz]

It's only a 4% difference in face-up surface area.
I would consider the proportions and angles to be way better for the 3.54 vs the 3.81

https://www.diamdb.com/compare/3.81ct-round-9.96x10.01x6.23-vs-3.54ct-round-9.77x9.81x6.01/

 

[ariel144]

Looking to change out my wife's natural 1.77 with a 3.5+ round and I have my local jeweler who has this diamond for me.

I'm in NO RUSH so I can wait for as long as necessary, but this seems to be a pretty good deal at $10,500 for a GIA certified diamond.

I've been looking at some on GemsNY and other sites and haven't found many that are similar to this (can probably get a 3.55 G/H - VS2 IGI for around $8,200) but for an F-GIA, this seems like a pretty solid deal?

What do you all think?

Hey Dude, Welcome to PriceScope.

You have come to the right place to source a great performing diamond for your budget.

Just so you will be informed; all GIA graded diamonds as triple EX do not guarantee the absolute best cut or performance.

IGI grading is pretty accurate based on certain vendor expert opinions. So be sure you check the diamond with the Holloway Cut Advisor which is an elimination tool. Then you will need to get an ASET image and an Ideal Scope image to check for any leakage.

Also an eye clean SI1 or VS2 can save you some $$. With your budget you can probably find an excellent performing 4c stone that will face up icy white and eye clean. If you search for a G/F SI1/VS2. The process for proving a stone is an excellent performing diamond is the same no matter which company graded the diamond.

Also if you choose an IGI graded stone you can probably pay the extra to have the vendor send it to GIA to get their cert. as well.

Good luck with your search. Deja and Kim N are great at sourcing the best stones.

 

[KingsDude]

Going to re-up this thread towards end of summer I think. A friend that's an antique jeweler trader (also custom design etc) firmly believes that LGD pricing is going to come down toward end of summer because they're going on their own rap sheet.

Of course if an amazing deal comes along, I'll be here, but it's not a rush and it's probably worth waiting for since the new variants seem to have little impact and I imagine summer is prime season for diamond upgrades / new purchases.

 

[DejaWiz]

Going to re-up this thread towards end of summer I think. A friend that's an antique jeweler trader (also custom design etc) firmly believes that LGD pricing is going to come down toward end of summer because they're going on their own rap sheet.

Of course if an amazing deal comes along, I'll be here, but it's not a rush and it's probably worth waiting for since the new variants seem to have little impact and I imagine summer is prime season for diamond upgrades / new purchases.

That's a good plan...never hurts to wait and see what unfolds in these weird times.

 

[KingsDude]

That's a good plan...never hurts to wait and see what unfolds in these weird times.

Looks like prices have started to go down. Will be starting search soon.

 

[DejaWiz]

Looks like prices have started to go down. Will be starting search soon.

Seemed there was a slight uptick a couple/few weeks ago, and prices have come back down to where they were just before that. Definitely a good time to start looking!

 

[KingsDude]

@DejaWiz thoughts on these? Haven't gotten pricing yet but want to guess???