Jenny8
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Hello Pricescopers!
I came here looking for advice on buying a Tiffany e-ring and have come away wanting a vintage cushion set by Victor Canera/Leon Mege! Thanks for putting me straight on this.
Over the last few weeks I have read this site/the forum to death learning about vintage cushions and have now reached the point where I have contacted vendors and have been provided with the specifications of a number of diamonds. I'm looking at 18 diamonds at the moment so will spare you the full details but to help me narrow down the field could you help me with some questions?
There are quite a lot of questions here... and I'm not very good at being concise! Is this too much? I have about 999,982 others - these are just the ones I am desperate for answers on
Please answer just one, a few or none at all
1 Just to totally cement my decision - how would a Mege/Canera setting compare in quality to the Tiffany Novo setting? Some of the posts I have read have made me a little uneasy about quality issues.
2 I have options from ERD, GOG, Perry Chen and Victor Canera so far. Are any of these to be preferred over the others as far as the quality of the diamonds they will supply goes?
3 Will all of these supply ASETS/diamXRays? Should I look at ASETS for all of the diamonds or can I rely on videos/reports alone?
4 I'm not going to be able to look at the diamond in person before I buy it. Is this complete madness?
5 AGS vs. GIA. I heard that AGS rated stones can be warmer than their GIA counterparts. Does this equate to a whole color grade or is this the kind of information that is interesting but something I can safely ignore?
6 Some of the reports I have been given are as old as 2 years. Should I take anything from this? Does this mean these diamonds are the ones that nobody wants?!
7 I asked for vintage cushions and have been sent about half cushion brilliants and half old mine brilliants. Given the amount that I have read, I feel I should know the answer to this but what is the difference between the two in terms of light performance? Should I prefer one over the other?
8 About a third of the diamonds rate "good" on symmetry, the others better. I have read that you should not consider lower than "very good" but have also read that symmetry has no effect on light performance. If I don't mind imperfections that I cannot see should I keep the "good" ones on the list or are there other implications?
9 Some of the reports record in the comments section that "crown angles are greater than 40 degrees". Why is this noted? Should I care?
10 Some of the reports record that surface graining/pinpoints is/are not shown. Is the graining visible? Should I disregard these?
11 I have read that a depth of 59-64% is the ideal range. Not one of the 18 diamonds are within this range! They range from 66-72% and are mostly 68/69. Does this mean that they are all no good? If not, why?
12 Cutlet. I have a range of small to very large and I'm really not sure what is best. Is this completely down to whether you like to see a big/small square through your diamond?
13 Girdles range from extremely thin to extremely thick. What thickness should I aim for? Is this down to personal preference on appearance too? Incidentally, I find the girdle descriptions on the reports baffling. e.g. "Thin - extremely thick". Is it thin or extremely thick?
14 Imperfections. Lots of the reports show feathers near the edges but these aren't visible to me on the videos. If I don't care about things that I can't see, should I be ok with this or do the feathers make the diamond fragile?
15 Facet structures. Should I be looking for a particular structure. They are all one of two types of structure (though no correlation to the old mine brilliant/cushion brilliant description).
16 I have read that cushions size up smaller on your finger than round brilliants. Can this be quantified in any way? If I had in mind a 2 ct. round brilliant should I round up to e.g. a 2.5 ct. cushion to keep the same kind of coverage?
17 On etiquette - is it ok to speak freely here about my experiences with all of these vendors as they develop? Is there anything that it is not ok to talk about e.g. prices? I don't want to offend any of the people that I am working with.
18 I am conscious of the fact that I have not heard of any of these vendors outside of Pricescope! Are people like Victor Canera/Leon Mege widely regarded as being leaders in their field in terms of quality? Sorry - I hope this is ok to ask.
I am looking for:
2ct +
G/VS2 +
Setting will be solitare with pave shank - no halo, LM or VC.
Size 6 finger.
Budget of up to $30k for the stone.

I came here looking for advice on buying a Tiffany e-ring and have come away wanting a vintage cushion set by Victor Canera/Leon Mege! Thanks for putting me straight on this.
Over the last few weeks I have read this site/the forum to death learning about vintage cushions and have now reached the point where I have contacted vendors and have been provided with the specifications of a number of diamonds. I'm looking at 18 diamonds at the moment so will spare you the full details but to help me narrow down the field could you help me with some questions?
There are quite a lot of questions here... and I'm not very good at being concise! Is this too much? I have about 999,982 others - these are just the ones I am desperate for answers on

1 Just to totally cement my decision - how would a Mege/Canera setting compare in quality to the Tiffany Novo setting? Some of the posts I have read have made me a little uneasy about quality issues.
2 I have options from ERD, GOG, Perry Chen and Victor Canera so far. Are any of these to be preferred over the others as far as the quality of the diamonds they will supply goes?
3 Will all of these supply ASETS/diamXRays? Should I look at ASETS for all of the diamonds or can I rely on videos/reports alone?
4 I'm not going to be able to look at the diamond in person before I buy it. Is this complete madness?
5 AGS vs. GIA. I heard that AGS rated stones can be warmer than their GIA counterparts. Does this equate to a whole color grade or is this the kind of information that is interesting but something I can safely ignore?
6 Some of the reports I have been given are as old as 2 years. Should I take anything from this? Does this mean these diamonds are the ones that nobody wants?!
7 I asked for vintage cushions and have been sent about half cushion brilliants and half old mine brilliants. Given the amount that I have read, I feel I should know the answer to this but what is the difference between the two in terms of light performance? Should I prefer one over the other?
8 About a third of the diamonds rate "good" on symmetry, the others better. I have read that you should not consider lower than "very good" but have also read that symmetry has no effect on light performance. If I don't mind imperfections that I cannot see should I keep the "good" ones on the list or are there other implications?
9 Some of the reports record in the comments section that "crown angles are greater than 40 degrees". Why is this noted? Should I care?
10 Some of the reports record that surface graining/pinpoints is/are not shown. Is the graining visible? Should I disregard these?
11 I have read that a depth of 59-64% is the ideal range. Not one of the 18 diamonds are within this range! They range from 66-72% and are mostly 68/69. Does this mean that they are all no good? If not, why?
12 Cutlet. I have a range of small to very large and I'm really not sure what is best. Is this completely down to whether you like to see a big/small square through your diamond?
13 Girdles range from extremely thin to extremely thick. What thickness should I aim for? Is this down to personal preference on appearance too? Incidentally, I find the girdle descriptions on the reports baffling. e.g. "Thin - extremely thick". Is it thin or extremely thick?
14 Imperfections. Lots of the reports show feathers near the edges but these aren't visible to me on the videos. If I don't care about things that I can't see, should I be ok with this or do the feathers make the diamond fragile?
15 Facet structures. Should I be looking for a particular structure. They are all one of two types of structure (though no correlation to the old mine brilliant/cushion brilliant description).
16 I have read that cushions size up smaller on your finger than round brilliants. Can this be quantified in any way? If I had in mind a 2 ct. round brilliant should I round up to e.g. a 2.5 ct. cushion to keep the same kind of coverage?
17 On etiquette - is it ok to speak freely here about my experiences with all of these vendors as they develop? Is there anything that it is not ok to talk about e.g. prices? I don't want to offend any of the people that I am working with.
18 I am conscious of the fact that I have not heard of any of these vendors outside of Pricescope! Are people like Victor Canera/Leon Mege widely regarded as being leaders in their field in terms of quality? Sorry - I hope this is ok to ask.
I am looking for:
2ct +
G/VS2 +
Setting will be solitare with pave shank - no halo, LM or VC.
Size 6 finger.
Budget of up to $30k for the stone.