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Bee34

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I bought an ‘antique ring” with the understanding it was hallmarked from 1849. Weather or not it is 1849 or 1920 doesn’t really make a difference to me as long as the stones were mine cut. Anyway I received this ring today and it looks very ‘new’ for a vintage ring for lack of better terms. I assumed an antique would look worn, but this ring doesn’t have a scratch on it. Which makes me wonder if I was sold a replica or if the jewelry polished it. I am new to antique jewelry collecting so any knowledge anyone can share with me would be fantastic. Feedback is greatly appreciated.
 
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VRBeauty

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The stones definitely look like mine-cut stones, the baskets look hand-made, and the prongs seem to have some signs of wear. My guess is that it is an old setting but recently polished - which is a common practice. The cathedral-like shoulders gave me pause initially, but then I looked down at the edwardian platform-style ring I'm currently wearing on my right hand, and realized that the cathedral shoulder was common in older jewelry - I'm just not used to seeing it on an older five-stone ring. Hopefully some of our antique jewelry collectors and experts will weigh in.

BTW have you tried to decipher the hallmarks using the hallmark tables available online? Here are a few sources to get you started:

http://www.langantiques.com/university/Hallmarks_on_Period_Jewelry
http://www.langantiques.com/university/Hallmarks_on_Period_Jewelry#Great_Britain
https://theassayoffice.co.uk/
 
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Bee34

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Thank you for your reply and feedback! Yes I have tried to decipher the hallmarks. The ‘A’ could be the 1849 hallmark and it defiantly was made in Birmingham with the anchor. I am trying to find online what the other marks to the left of the ‘halmarks’ are still. 3912 HS. I assume HSis the Jewelers initials.
 

yennyfire

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I think that @VRBeauty is right in her assessment. I'm pretty sure every antique piece is rehabbed a bit when received by a jeweler. Gorgeous ring! Wear it in much health and happiness.
 

Bee34

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Thank you! And yes I will wear it in health and happiness!
 

YadaYadaYada

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Very pretty, love the mine cuts:kiss2:
 

meely

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Hi if you can get some clearer photos of the date letter I have a hallmark book and will check for you. I'm pretty sure it's not as old as 1849, it doesn't have the look of a Victorian piece to me. Possibly Edwardian/1920s.
 

Bee34

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Thank you for your help. It has 3912 H.S then the symbol of the crown 18 then the Anchor and the A. The 3912 and HS I have not been able to identify. FD01AAD9-BA3A-4A0C-A34A-16669F71E78D.jpeg 1A0A49B5-18D3-4327-9A43-15C2F4ECC8CD.jpeg
 

Bee34

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meely

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H.S. will be the makers mark. Unless the maker is prominent this could possibly be quite hard to trace.
3912 I'm unsure of, I would imagine something specific to the maker.
I agree that the A could signify 1849, 1925 or even 1773 (though we can rule this one out given the style and condition!).
There are. subtle differences between each 'A'. I asked for a close up for a few reasons. I was trying to see the bottom part of the square that the A sits in to see if it was wavy or straight. I can't tell from the photos though?
My other thought was that the bar of the A in your hallmark looks to be slanted which wouldn't fit with either 'A'?
I also couldn't be 100% that the assay mark was an anchor but I can see from your new pics that is is. I believe anything earlier than 1890 should have a queens head duty mark which your hallmark does not have.
 

mina78

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Could the maker of this ring potentially be H.Samuel?
 
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