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jbcown48

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Hi All,

I am new here. I have been doing some researhes for the engagement ring diamond and following are ranking of the 4 Cs in my preference: 1. Cut 2. Clarity, 3 & 4: Carat (at least 1.1), Color (at least G). I guess i have made my decision on Carat and Color already = )

So my budget is around 10K to 12K (of course the cheaper the better), i have looked around the internet and followings are my top 6 choices (please help me to narrow down).

I don't mind about F to medium fluorescence as long they don't look hazy. Online dealer has confirmed both 1.27 and 1.31 are eye cleaned and not hazy. I am thinking besides price (they are all about 1k different), Clarity and HCA score will help me to narrow them down. What do you think? Any advice regarding which one or how to narrow them down would be very helpful.

Thank you!

P.S.: they all have GIA certificate, all are excellent in cut, polish, and symmetry.

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I would not buy any of them. They are all a waste of money when it comes to clarity. I'd go to VS2 on clarity and go up in size.
 
Thanks Gypsy for your reply.. the reason i picked higher clarity diamonds because my girlfriend wants good clarity and eye cleaned. To make sure it will be eye cleaned, I picked VVS2 or better. From reading other posts, I think VS1 & even VS2 should be mostly eye cleaned, but i want it to be sure since i am shopping online so i picked VVS2 or above... please correct me if i am wrong, any comments would be helpful :wink2:
 
thank you RockyRacoon. It is good to look at pictures of the diamond you shared. With my limited experience, looking at the picture i can tell the diamond is pretty well cut and symmetry. I don't have much experience with AGS, it should be on par with GIA right? I will definitely consider this one. If you know another one that is a step up compares to this one and within my budget, please let me know too. thank you!
 
Eyeclean means Si1 or better usually. Yes, you are fine with MUCH lower clarity. I have a VS1 and I can't find my inclusions with a loupe. Let alone with my own eyes.

I like Rocky's pick a lot.

Here's a little information about labs:

IGI and EGL are like large statewide universities.

GIA is Ivy League, and AGS is like the MIT rocket-science program.

A polisher or manufacturer sends each diamond (student) to the place it will get the best grade (earn more $).

The good to average go to the large universities (IGI/EGL).

The better ones are sent to the Ivy League (GIA / HRD) and a few nerds go to MIT (AGS).
Drop outs end up in a ‘program’ at a chain store or Joe's Bar & Grading Lab.

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-grading-report

AGS is the only lab that grades for light performance. The top rating is 0 for light peformance. And all our best vendors send their best diamonds to AGS.
 
Thank you Gypsy for educating me on the AGS. That was very helpful and i think i will be comfortable if not more getting AGS diamonds now.

I want to ask you guys on your opinions regarding the following option, with price/carrat is about the same, which one you think it's better choice (refer to image comments for more information). Thanks!

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They are both lovely. But I have a preference for this one:

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Thank you Gypsy.

After more research and thinking over the weekend. My mind is leaning toward these two:

- http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2684391.htm

- http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...1.224-h-vs1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104069928016

My take are the followings:

1.224 one
- Pros: good value/cheaper and pretty good clarity
- potential cons: too much blue under direct sunlight and ASET picture is somewhat orange instead of red

1.07 one
- Pros: higher clarity and seems better ASET picture for me
- cons: smaller and almost 10k/Carrat, and plus no blue fluorescence

Personally i prefer a little blue, but not sure if strong is too much. Please let me know which one you would go for and why.

Thank you!
 
jbcown48 said:
Thank you Gypsy.

After more research and thinking over the weekend. My mind is leaning toward these two:

- http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2684391.htm

- http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...1.224-h-vs1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104069928016

My take are the followings:

1.224 one
- Pros: good value/cheaper and pretty good clarity
- potential cons: too much blue under direct sunlight and ASET picture is somewhat orange instead of red

1.07 one
- Pros: higher clarity and seems better ASET picture for me
- cons: smaller and almost 10k/Carrat, and plus no blue fluorescence

Personally i prefer a little blue, but not sure if strong is too much. Please let me know which one you would go for and why.

Thank you!
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You can ignore the ASET comparisons, as they are done using different photo setups, so will have different results.

This is an easy decision for me - the BG Blue.

The stone is larger and has a solid clarity (will definitely be eye-clean). Blue fluor is a bonus, in my eyes, and based on the fluor image on the BG page, this stone should not be the most fluorescent of stones.

Order that Blue before a lurker snatches it up!
 
jbcown48|1396908032|3649204 said:
Thank you for the quick reply.

How do you think this compares with the one you have suggested few days ago?

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...1.215-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104069928021

I like this one too; because it has slightly better color and medium blue instead of strong. But i am concerned about the feather on this one.

Any comments would be great. thanks!
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Looks great, as well.

It might be worth your while to get Brian on the phone and ask him to give you the pros/cons for each stone, while he is examining them.

That way, you can have an expert set of eyes do a side-by-side comparison.

Either way you go, you're going to end up with a killer stone!
 
RockyRacoon|1396908353|3649209 said:
jbcown48|1396908032|3649204 said:
Thank you for the quick reply.

How do you think this compares with the one you have suggested few days ago?

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...1.215-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104069928021

I like this one too; because it has slightly better color and medium blue instead of strong. But i am concerned about the feather on this one.

Any comments would be great. thanks!
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Looks great, as well.

It might be worth your while to get Brian on the phone and ask him to give you the pros/cons for each stone, while he is examining them.

That way, you can have an expert set of eyes do a side-by-side comparison.

Either way you go, you're going to end up with a killer stone!
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VS2 feathers are a non-issue. If Brian is around this is great advice. If he's overseas or on vacation... ask for their gemologist to pick one for you.
 
Thank you RockyRacoon and Gypsy for your comments. I will definitely try to see if Brian is availiable tomorrow to share his inputs. So the feather that concerns me is circled in following picture. It is very closed and a very small piece to the edge; worried that may lead to chipping if any impact on that edge. maybe i am just over thinking? :confused:

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jbcown48|1396922819|3649430 said:
Thank you RockyRacoon and Gypsy for your comments. I will definitely try to see if Brian is availiable tomorrow to share his inputs. So the feather that concerns me is circled in following picture. It is very closed and a very small piece to the edge; worried that may lead to chipping if any impact on that edge. maybe i am just over thinking? :confused:
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Because it is a VS2. Yes. If it was a danger it wouldn't have gotten a VS2.
 
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