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1.5ct HVS1 VG/VG/EX or 1.38ct HVS1 EX/EX/EX?

bubblino

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Hi Folks, first time posting on the forum and have found the threads quite helpful. I am about to finalize an engagement ring (looking to propose mid- to late- October)! I have decided on the Tacori 2620 setting, and Round Brilliant stone options below.
I am getting a tremendous deal on the 1.5 ct/tacori combination, but the excellent cut of the 1.38 ct stone really makes it stand out. So it comes down to either (1) larger stone that looks beautiful, or (2) slightly smaller stone that looks a little more beautiful

Btw, my gf's ring size is pretty small (about 4-4.5), Unfortunately I don't have pics to post of the stones..

Thoughts on which one should I go with?!?!?!

Stone 1
Carats: 1.50
Color: H
Clarity: VS1
Dimensions: 7.24 x 7.29 x 4.62
Cut: Very Good
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Excellent

Stone 2
Carats: 1.38
Color: H
Clarity: VS1
Dimensions: 7.19 x 7.24 x 4.60
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
 

thbmok

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Do you have the GIA report numbers?

If you have seen both stones and the 1.38 looks better I don't see why you would want to go with the 1.5. Face up size based on the dimensions is essentially the same.
 

AndGabe

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Agreed. That .05mm difference will not be noticeable. 1.38ct will look plenty big on her tiny finger.
 

marcy

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I would go with the 1.38 since it is a better cut. It will look very significant on her finger.
 

bubblino

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Thanks everyone for the feedback. From a price perspective, wanted to note that the price for each ring will be the same. Not sure if that influences anyone's opinion for the 1.38 vs. the 1.5.
 

diamondseeker2006

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A 1.5 ct. stone should be 7.4mm in diameter. That one faces up like a smaller stone. I wouldn't even consider it because it does not have the appearance of a 1.5 ct. stone and probably doesn't have the light performance of an excellent cut stone, either. So hands down, if I had to choose with the limited info given, I'd choose the 1.3.
 

slg47

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diamondseeker2006|1317042497|3025763 said:
A 1.5 ct. stone should be 7.4mm in diameter. That one faces up like a smaller stone. I wouldn't even consider it because it does not have the appearance of a 1.5 ct. stone and probably doesn't have the light performance of an excellent cut stone, either. So hands down, if I had to choose with the limited info given, I'd choose the 1.3.

DS good point...the 1.3 is not even smaller in this case!
 

bubblino

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Good point guys re: 7.4mm. But isn't it true that average is based on an Excellent cut? What I'm finding in research is that a 1.5ct stone that is cut Very Good will be in the range of the one I'm looking at (~7.25 - 7.30mm).

btw, i'm starting to lean towards the 1.38 based on beauty of the stone and the points made here regarding the negligible difference in dimension. Though I still believe the 1.5 is a tremendous value because I've been quoted a great price.
 

slg47

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bubblino|1317054810|3025902 said:
Good point guys re: 7.4mm. But isn't it true that average is based on an Excellent cut? What I'm finding in research is that a 1.5ct stone that is cut Very Good will be in the range of the one I'm looking at (~7.25 - 7.30mm).

btw, i'm starting to lean towards the 1.38 based on beauty of the stone and the points made here regarding the negligible difference in dimension. Though I still believe the 1.5 is a tremendous value because I've been quoted a great price.

the dimensions on these two stones overlap...the 1.5 is not even larger! I would DEFINITELY go with the 1.38. it is more beautiful, and the SAME size.
 

bubblino

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A few updates belowon the 1.38ct and 1.50ct stones; I also got the full GIA report on the 1.50. I made a couple typos in my original post, but don't think the numbers will really affect opinions given so far. I would really like to hear your opinions on the 1.50 though in and of itself; im curious of what you think of it all things considered. Thanks very much all; this has been quite a process for me (I just keep trying to imagine her face on the big day :)

btw, if its a consideration, in terms of price i am being quoted with the tacori 2620 setting: $16-$17,000 for each ring.


1.38 ct hvs1 ex/ex/ex:

-actual dimensions are 7.19 x 7.24 x 4.41

1.50 ct hvs1 gia report (report# 17475070):
Measurements: 7.24 - 7.29 x 4.53 mm
Carat Weight: 1.50 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VS1
Cut Grade: Very Good
--PROPORTIONS:
Depth: 62.4%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 37.0°
Crown Height: 15.5%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Thick, Faceted
Culet: None
--FINISH:
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
 

slg47

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definitely from the numbers we have go with the 1.38. it is not smaller than the 1.50 and appears to be much better cut. plus you preferred it.
 

bubblino

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One more question to ask everyone. I'm good on the comparison between the 1.38 ct and 1.50 ct stones. Separately, from a value perspective, do you guys consider $13,000 a good deal for the 1.50 ct stone detailed above? That's what I am being quoted.

Thanks!
 

pmbspyder

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bubblino|1317324002|3028928 said:
One more question to ask everyone. I'm good on the comparison between the 1.38 ct and 1.50 ct stones. Separately, from a value perspective, do you guys consider $13,000 a good deal for the 1.50 ct stone detailed above? That's what I am being quoted.

Thanks!

you pay for what you get. in this case, you're getting it for a good price because it is inferior to other similarly weighted stones. I know it would be great to tell everyone it's a 1.5, but if I were you I would absolutley go with the other stone. The size difference is negligible, you just have to get over the ct in your own mind!
 

CedarRapids

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bubblino|1317324002|3028928 said:
One more question to ask everyone. I'm good on the comparison between the 1.38 ct and 1.50 ct stones. Separately, from a value perspective, do you guys consider $13,000 a good deal for the 1.50 ct stone detailed above? That's what I am being quoted.

Thanks!

13,000 is a lot of money and to get something considered 'excellent' after spending that kind of money is not a good deal IMO.
That diamond was cut to hit the 1.5 mark, not for light performance.
 

bubblino

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Hey guys, so the final price for the 1.38ct hvs1 with tacori 2620 is $15,500. Sound good?
 
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