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Colombian emerald - Thoughts please !!

vik84

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Btw, what do you guys think of this Colombian emerald ? It's a bit smaller at about 2.6 cts but the clarity is supposed to be really good.
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Btw, what do you guys think of this Colombian emerald ? It's a bit smaller at about 2.6 cts but the clarity is supposed to be really good.
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Very nice. I personally love that really long emerald shape, very elegant and so “Art Deco” looking.
 

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Btw, what do you guys think of this Colombian emerald ? It's a bit smaller at about 2.6 cts but the clarity is supposed to be really good.
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Love the shape, it’s a classic emerald look and I’m sure it will look substantial. Is it untreated also?
 

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Love the shape, it’s a classic emerald look and I’m sure it will look substantial. Is it untreated also?
Yes, it's untreated as well.
 

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Yeah, I suggested escrow.com or some similar service to handle the transaction but they just wanted a wire transfer to their account. Seemed too risky since there's no guarantee of a return if the stone didn't get appraised at that price.

I used escrow.com years ago. Good service honestly! But I can see both sides of it, with escrow being the neutral middle ground, but burden of proof does lie with seller.

The report: is it verifyable? can you call someone and say hey, I have this emerald, did you guys have this in your lab?

The seller could have done a couple of things in this instance. Like, agree to send the stone to a independent appraiser that you could both agree on. Take a small down payment (or earnest money, say 5k ) that you would wire to them during this time and allow you to have the stone looked at by that appraiser, once things check out to both of your satisfaction. Granted you'd lose the earnest money if you backed out of the deal, but, it would allow them to see you as serious enough that you're willing to take the plunge...then take negotiations from there.

The seller though is likely hinging on possibly a more emotional buyer, and the possibility of the stone being rare enough and backed up by a report that someone out there will just agree to their terms because they may have a ton of money tied up in this stone or...the other side is that it may have issues and, want someone to just buy without thinking too much about the details.

I learned long ago, trust but verify because hey, even reports can be faked (especially when there's lots of money on the line!) Let me tell you, being on pricescope has saved me plenty of money (it also made me spend plenty to, I guess it evens out:lol-2:)

I'm sad for you that it didn't work out but being cautious and listening to that inner voice can save you in more ways than one.
 

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Btw, what do you guys think of this Colombian emerald ? It's a bit smaller at about 2.6 cts but the clarity is supposed to be really good.
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I love the color on this. Long stones are great for those with long fingers. I'm not such a person:lol-2:
 

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You have a perfect emerald.

The colour seems very fine. Not small for what it is. The shape is a favorite...

Digressing,

You may hear that slight 'texture' somehow makes the finest colour more obvious - not only in emeralds. It is another purist song, aside IF clarity. The stuff is not more common than the kind of perfection you are after. I only understood what this charade was all about, by looking at examples.
 

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This has been a thread before, but perhaps worth bringing up again. I don't think emerald strength is in pure clarity. For me there are a number of kind of emeralds I enjoy, and it is more about the color and glow and it is possible that microscopic structural differences can cause the stone to have that glowy look.
Basically try to find the best quality of emerald you can find rather than focus on clarity. Read up on emeralds. Look at lots of pictures of top quality emeralds. I especially enjoyed Richard Wise's secrets of the gem trade.
http://www.emeraldpassion.com/sample.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Gem-Trade-connoisseurs-Gemstones/dp/0972822380
 

vik84

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Btw, what do you guys think of this Colombian emerald ? It's a bit smaller at about 2.6 cts but the clarity is supposed to be really good.
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Finally going to pull the trigger on this one ! Been looking at several other untreated Colombian emeralds, not seeing this color and clarity in any stone of this size. Final price is $25K for the unmounted stone, so hopefully not paying too much of a premium. Hope it looks this good in person !
 

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Gorgeous stone, and if you’re resetting it, here’s a design idea I love. I apologize, as I forgot who owns this ring. However, the elongated cut screams for this.

I think the $10k/ct price is justified due to the color/clarity/size. Does it have a lab report? Origin is important on the report as well. The clarity is exceptional. It’s rarer beyond rare to find emeralds with color and clarity like that. IMO, I wish my emeralds were as clean. People try to justify jardin as natures beautiful imperfections, and that’s fine, but these are the stones that are rarer than hen’s teeth. The crystal and color are gorgeous.
 
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vik84

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Gorgeous stone, and if you’re resetting it, here’s a design idea I love. I apologize, as I forgot who owns this ring. However, the elongated cut screams for this.

I think the $10k/ct price is justified due to the color/clarity/size. Does it have a lab report? Origin is important on the report as well. The clarity is exceptional. It’s rarer beyond rare to find emeralds with color and clarity like that. IMO, I wish my emeralds were as clean. People try to justify jardin as natures beautiful imperfections, and that’s fine, but these are the stones that are rarer than hen’s teeth. The crystal and color are gorgeous.

Thanks. That's a lovely ring design, I'll keep it in mind. The stone has an AGL lab report confirming origin and lack of treatment. I was specifically looking for an eye-clean no-oiled emerald, so very excited to be finally getting this stone.
 

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Thanks. That's a lovely ring design, I'll keep it in mind. The stone has an AGL lab report confirming origin and lack of treatment. I was specifically looking for an eye-clean no-oiled emerald, so very excited to be finally getting this stone.
Post pics please!! I’m dying to see more pictures!

Congrats!!!
 

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Thanks, will do. In the meantime, here's an emerald I came across through the Bright Green stones vendor in Bangkok https://www.instagram.com/b.g.stones/ . It's a 2.46 ct no-oil Colombian emerald certified by GRS confirming origin and no treatment. The asking price is $9K (will try to negotiate) in total. What do you guys think?
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It’s beautiful, but the other stone is in another worldly realm! The other stone is cleaner, and more saturated and just, sigh!!!!

But that square is really nice. Good price!!

@EmeraldEmpress had a really hard time getting in touch with that vendor by the way. Do you know if he checks emails???
 
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vik84

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He's quite responsive over Instagram. I even got him to shoot a video with the stone between tweezers to see the stone from all angles:


Password: muzoemerald

Can definitely spot some inclusions and the color is a little lighter. But it's a 2ct+ no-oil, which seems pretty to hard to find at this price.
 

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He's quite responsive over Instagram. I even got him to shoot a video with the stone between tweezers to see the stone from all angles:


Password: muzoemerald

Can definitely spot some inclusions and the color is a little lighter. But it's a 2ct+ no-oil, which seems pretty to hard to find at this price.

I rarely say this because I don’t think gems are good investments, but the other stone is investment grade. I already think it’s underpriced. That being said, I have not seen it in person, and that’s a large amount of money regardless. However if it looks accurate like the picture in the still shot, it’s impeccably fine quality.

The square is gorgeous, but not as rare as the elongated stone.

Your video won’t play here for me.
 

vik84

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Thanks ! I also believe this is an investment grade stone at a good price, will get it appraised soon. Here are the original videos of the first stone:



Password: muzoemerald

I believe there's a small window that was bothering me a bit, but I think I can set the emerald to close up the back.
 

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Is the video in natural light?
 

vik84

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Yes it's in natural light taken with a camera phone.
 

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Get a photo and incandescent light or a video.
 

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vik84

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Which one?

The clean 2.58 baguette cut, previously set into a ring. Still not sure about the other stone as I can spot some tiny inclusions, which means it's definitely not "eye-clean". Also, the dealer's just asking for a bank transfer (no eBay store etc.) and no returns, so seems like a huge risk.
 

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The clean 2.58 baguette cut, previously set into a ring. Still not sure about the other stone as I can spot some tiny inclusions, which means it's definitely not "eye-clean". Also, the dealer's just asking for a bank transfer (no eBay store etc.) and no returns, so seems like a huge risk.
Oh wow, no way then to the latter stone!! Too risky.

I’m so excited to see more pics!!!
 

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vik84

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The stone arrived. Pls forgive my pathetic attempts to capture it on a camera phone, I just can't seem to show the color and brilliancy in my photos.
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Getting the stone appraised today along with photos being taken in a lightbox, will hopefully have better photos for you afterwards.
 
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