OVAL help

[Desperado213]

Hello all in new here. In the market for a 1.7ct oval in a pace setting. I found this oval on diamonds direct a while ago and I keep coming back to it.
https://diamondsdirect.com/loose-diamond?stock=117234592

It has been listed on diamonds direct for 9500 for months and recently they put it up to 13000. I found the same diamond listed on yadav for 9200.
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/oval-diamond-1.7-carat-i-if-yd1801802

I just want to know if that's a nice oval and if anyone has any feedback on Yadav? I really like the clarity and dimensions on the diamond because most 1.7cts I've been looking at are in the 8.3-8.6mm length.

This is the setting I'm looking at and it would be 14k yellow gold.
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/products/sidestone-ring-84842-yellow-gold-14k

Any help or suggestions appreciated!

 

[ringo865]

Is there a particular need for IF clarity?

 

[Desperado213]

No not at all. The other diamonds I was looking at in the same price range had a lot less clarity so that's why I was leaning towards that one. My all in budget is no more than 11K.

 

[KingKuda]

I'd definitely look to dropping the clarity to an eye clean SI1 and increasing the colour if it's a possibility.

 

[Desperado213]

Im not against that at all I just haven't found one that isnt all depth in dimension or doesnt look like a pepper shakers.

 

[rockysalamander]

Hello all in new here. In the market for a 1.7ct oval in a pace setting. I found this oval on diamonds direct a while ago and I keep coming back to it.
https://diamondsdirect.com/loose-diamond?stock=117234592

It has been listed on diamonds direct for 9500 for months and recently they put it up to 13000. I found the same diamond listed on yadav for 9200.
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/oval-diamond-1.7-carat-i-if-yd1801802

I just want to know if that's a nice oval and if anyone has any feedback on Yadav? I really like the clarity and dimensions on the diamond because most 1.7cts I've been looking at are in the 8.3-8.6mm length.

This is the setting I'm looking at and it would be 14k yellow gold.
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/products/sidestone-ring-84842-yellow-gold-14k

Any help or suggestions appreciated!

I really dislike when they spin on the long axis, but from what I can tell, its got too much mush under the table (circled in red). Its hard to evaluate the bowtie at this angle.



This vendor will allow you up to three ASET images (when they have them) per email from which the email originated.

Try to ignore the color on some of these. They are all G and above, but several are photographed with a very yellow light.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.51-carat-d-color-vs1-clarity-sku-4683647 {8.22*6.37*4.37}
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.51-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-4344123 {9.00*6.76*3.92}
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.50-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-4321664 {blemish on the table may not suit; 8.56*6.22*4.18}
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.36-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-sku-4707839 {8.82*6.31*3.93}

 

[Desperado213]

Wow I really like the look of that first one, I just with the L/W ratio was a little higher. I guess I need to start looking for at the 1.5ct range.

 

[Lorelei]

Im not against that at all I just haven't found one that isnt all depth in dimension or doesnt look like a pepper shakers.

I'm stealing ' pepper shakers'

 

[Lorelei]

Wow I really like the look of that first one, I just with the L/W ratio was a little higher. I guess I need to start looking for at the 1.5ct range.

It's tricky to find a great oval, increasing the colour and lowering the clarity is good advice. It's a case of seeing which type you like and what other boxes it ticks really and LW ratio is an important one.

Are you in a rush?

 

[Desperado213]

It's tricky to find a great oval, increasing the colour and lowering the clarity is good advice. It's a case of seeing which type you like and what other boxes it ticks really and LW ratio is an important one.

Are you in a rush?

I would like to have a ring by May 11, hopefully that is enough time to find what I want. Ive only been looking online for a month or so. Three of my buddies all bought theirs from a local shop and keep telling me I should go there but I keep putting it off. I feel like I am at a car dealership when I'm in a jewelry store.

 

[Lorelei]

I would like to have a ring by May 11, hopefully that is enough time to find what I want. Ive only been looking online for a month or so. Three of my buddies all bought theirs from a local shop and keep telling me I should go there but I keep putting it off. I feel like I am at a car dealership when I'm in a jewelry store.

I'm glad you're not being influenced by your buddies and you know better! Fear not, we'll help you through it and you'll end up with a spectacular ring!

So, with your time frame, we need to move on this so your ring is completed in time but we can do it I'm sure.

 

[Lorelei]

I just wanted to mention too with the setting, the one you picked has yellow gold prongs, is that what you want? Usually white gold prongs are preferred with a yellow gold setting, just to make sure.

 

[Lorelei]

Just throwing in a wildcard here, it's more expensive but it has potential and it's a big stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.71-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-4691922

 

[Desperado213]

I just wanted to mention too with the setting, the one you picked has yellow gold prongs, is that what you want? Usually white gold prongs are preferred with a yellow gold setting, just to make sure.

White gold prongs are fine with me. I thought yellow gold prongs could help "hide" the color if the center stone is a lower color like the I that was posted at the start. I am new to buying jewelry so I'm here to learn.

My only requirements are:
-Oval center stone
-14K yellow gold band
-pave setting with at least .30+ total carat (I want to avoid a super thin/micro diamond band)
-reputable seller (no brainer)

 

[Desperado213]

Just throwing in a wildcard here, it's more expensive but it has potential and it's a big stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.71-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-4691922

That is a nice looking stone for sure! What is fluorescence all about? Do you want a stronger florescence? Is there any down side to it?

 

[Lorelei]

That is a nice looking stone for sure! What is fluorescence all about? Do you want a stronger florescence? Is there any down side to it?

As long as the Sb fluorescence isn't having a negative effect on the diamond such as oiliness or cloudiness ( the vendor can advise), many of us feel it's a nice feature to a diamond but you'll rarely see it anyway only under UV light. Some believe it can help a diamond face up whiter but that's a controversial subject.

 

[Lorelei]

White gold prongs are fine with me. I thought yellow gold prongs could help "hide" the color if the center stone is a lower color like the I that was posted at the start. I am new to buying jewelry so I'm here to learn.

My only requirements are:
-Oval center stone
-14K yellow gold band
-pave setting with at least .30+ total carat (I want to avoid a super thin/micro diamond band)
-reputable seller (no brainer)

That's out there that YG prongs can help make a stone look whiter because of the contrast but others feel it makes a stone look warmer. I'd stick with white gold prongs with a YG band if that were me. The setting can be found similarly with almost all vendors as it's a popular design.

 

[tyty333]

Here is a stone on BN you might take a look at. Not sure if the feather on the table will be eye-clean though. It does have nice light return and
a pretty faceting pattern. Also on the larger side of what you are looking at.
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09944389

Another one that looks pretty nice...table is slightly large but still a pretty stone with nice faceting pattern.
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD00018640

 

[Desperado213]

Here is a stone on BN you might take a look at. Not sure if the feather on the table will be eye-clean though. It does have nice light return and
a pretty faceting pattern. Also on the larger side of what you are looking at.
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09944389

Another one that looks pretty nice...table is slightly large but still a pretty stone with nice faceting pattern.
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD00018640

I like the first one but like you said that feather could be visible.

How accurate are the colors shown on blue nile and other sites? Do they place it under a yellow light to help show its true color? I am just trying to determine how much lighter it would look once in a setting in natural light.

Also some H-J I find look different between diamonds.

For instance this J (I know its up there at the top of my budget):
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

compared to this one which look much more yellow to me:
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

 

[Desperado213]

Do a lot of people on here order from Blue Nile? In all of my searches a lot of the reviews from this year are poor when it comes to customer service.

 

[tyty333]

Several people on PS have bought from BN. They do a lot of business so you may not get as personalized an experience as you would get with
a smaller vendor.

BN blast their stones with light. Color is graded table down however, fancy shapes like ovals tend to show more color in their "mushy" areas.

Usually for ovals we like to stay in the D-H color range. If someone is trying to push the size threshold we'll drop down to "I". Very rarely do
we drop down to a "J" due to being able to see the color better between the facets that reflect light well and the mushy areas.

Its difficult to do a color comparison on BN because if you look at the backgrounds of those 2 stones you posted above you will see that one is
more blue and the other looks more gray. The photog set up between the two is not the same so really cant do a stone color comparison.

 

[tyty333]

You might take a look at this video. It has G-J ovals in it.

 

[mrs-b]

How about this? Clean, white, stunning, no bow-tie:

https://www.augustvintageinc.net/co...ducts/1-5ct-g-si1-august-vintage-oval-1225657

This is one of Jonathan Weingarten's newly designed Opulence oval diamonds. They are the only oval diamonds with ideal light return. As such, they will sparkle far more than any other oval you look at. They also have no 'mush', plus their profile is far prettier - not being as flat as a lot of ovals.

These are currently on sale, being brand new. I don't believe you'll find any other oval with light return to rival these types of ovals. They're ground breaking.

 

[Desperado213]

Several people on PS have bought from BN. They do a lot of business so you may not get as personalized an experience as you would get with
a smaller vendor.

BN blast their stones with light. Color is graded table down however, fancy shapes like ovals tend to show more color in their "mushy" areas.

Usually for ovals we like to stay in the D-H color range. If someone is trying to push the size threshold we'll drop down to "I". Very rarely do
we drop down to a "J" due to being able to see the color better between the facets that reflect light well and the mushy areas.

Its difficult to do a color comparison on BN because if you look at the backgrounds of those 2 stones you posted above you will see that one is
more blue and the other looks more gray. The photog set up between the two is not the same so really cant do a stone color comparison.

That makes complete sense, thanks for clearing that up. I will stay away from looking at J color.

How about this? Clean, white, stunning, no bow-tie:

https://www.augustvintageinc.net/co...ducts/1-5ct-g-si1-august-vintage-oval-1225657

This is one of Jonathan Weingarten's newly designed Opulence oval diamonds. They are the only oval diamonds with ideal light return. As such, they will sparkle far more than any other oval you look at. They also have no 'mush', plus their profile is far prettier - not being as flat as a lot of ovals.

These are currently on sale, being brand new. I don't believe you'll find any other oval with light return to rival these types of ovals. They're ground breaking.

Those are stunning! Of course it's just out of my budget. Any reason why they are AGS certified and not GIA?

 

[mrs-b]

That makes complete sense, thanks for clearing that up. I will stay away from looking at J color.



Those are stunning! Of course it's just out of my budget. Any reason why they are AGS certified and not GIA?

Yes. Because AGS is much more stringent on it's grading for cut. An ideal AGS cut is much more reliable than a GIA triple excellent.

Contact Jonathan Weingarten, who owns AVI. Ask if he can do 11k. Alternately, he is currently offering a discount on settings, which might make the price of the stone easier for you. There really is no comparison between an AVI oval and a non-ideal oval. Worth the extra money if you can swing it. And if not, browse the site for something that *is* in your budget. It's a completely different caliber of oval.

 

[Desperado213]

Yes. Because AGS is much more stringent on it's grading for cut. An ideal AGS cut is much more reliable than a GIA triple excellent.

Contact Jonathan Weingarten, who owns AVI. Ask if he can do 11k. Alternately, he is currently offering a discount on settings, which might make the price of the stone easier for you. There really is no comparison between an AVI oval and a non-ideal oval. Worth the extra money if you can swing it. And if not, browse the site for something that *is* in your budget. It's a completely different caliber of oval.

I sent Jonathan an email about his diamonds and if he has any coming in soon that may be more in my budget. We will see what he says. His ovals are a different caliber for sure.

 

[Desperado213]

I cant decide between 4 prongs or 6? What is everyone's consensus on this or is more of a personal preference? I don't dislike the look of a 6 prong with a prong at with end but i do slightly lean to the more simple looking 4. Either way I don't want the diamond falling out!

 

[Lorelei]

I cant decide between 4 prongs or 6? What is everyone's consensus on this or is more of a personal preference? I don't dislike the look of a 6 prong with a prong at with end but i do slightly lean to the more simple looking 4. Either way I don't want the diamond falling out!

Personally I prefer 4 prongs on an oval or double prongs is a beautiful look too.

 

[Desperado213]

Here are some CAD renderings John sent me from AV. So far my favorite is the simple 4 (pic 1 and 4) with the simple 6 (last 2 pics) in 2nd.



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[Lorelei]

Absolutely gorgeous, that's a perfect setting in my opinion! I love the way the 6 prongs go on this design, like a pretty scoopy glass and the crossovers make it extra pretty.