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Help between 2 princess diamonds please!

Shaylene1080

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HI everyone,

I'm new here and just looking for a bit of advice regarding choosing between 2 princess cuts. I tentatively purchased one (the second attached) but am second guessing myself. Though to my untrained eye I definitely like it better than the other - I think. My apologies, I don't have the specs but am wondering if anyone might be able to tell be which looks better at first glance with the pics below? From what I I understand there is a high range of what is considered acceptable cut parameters with princesses, but I'm told by the diamond site both are considered within the confines of excellent cuts? Both are SI1 J.

As I'm new here, I apologize in advance if I have made any faux-pas with this post, etc. Thanks :)

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drk14

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Do you video available of these diamonds? The bottom one looks more symmetric from the photo, but videos of the diamonds in motion would be more helpful for purposes of comparing performance.

Also, I assume that the inclusions under the table don't bother you. What are the diamond dimensions?
 

Shaylene1080

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Hi. Thank you for the response! There were videos but both did not show the whole diamond on my screen so were pretty useless :/

Dimensions of diamond 1 were depth 72.6, table 75. Measures 5.86 x 5.72. And GIA cert 2244529647, 1.20 ct

Dimensions of diamond 2 are depth 74.3, table 75. Measures 5.75 x 5.63. And GIA cert 6232737840, 1.21 ct

You are right, I don't care about completely eye clean. Clarity is the C I'm most willing to sacrifice. I have a limited budget so goya do what I gotta do :roll:
 

drk14

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There were videos but both did not show the whole diamond on my screen so were pretty useless :/

Could you link the videos anyway? Something is better than nothing...
 

drk14

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I was able to see the (whole) diamond in the posted video. I wasn't too impressed with that one.
 

Shaylene1080

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Thanks so much for looking! Must have been my phone, which is my only Internet source and not optimal. I'm relieved to hear you don't think the other diamond is impressive, though. Hoping the one I got is better! I was able to get them to send me the video for the one I purchased, but I could only link to it from the live chat. When I tried to copy and paste it in to search multiple times, the link sent me to a different diamond. I am guessing they already replaced with another diamond to the invantory number or something :(
 

Niel

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Hey what is your limited budget?
 

Shaylene1080

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Hey what is your limited budget?

Hi! I'm in Canada, and our dollar is terrrible right now - so that contributes to my really limited budget, too. About $3100 US really is the highest I can go, as that puts me at about $4000 Canadian. I know I won't get the best stone in the world with that by a long shot, but I'm hoping I can still luck out with a pretty one! I'm willing to sacrifice clarity and, to an extent, color. I am a bit color sensitive so have found J is my cut off. K, even with strong fluoro, doesn't work well with my eyes. I am a size diva so am hoping for the highest carat/spread I can get. But of course, cut is King! Any idea what I can expect to get with that budget? I'll be returning the stone I bought if it ends up being a dud - which I've an idea it might... :-o
 
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drk14

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I am a size diva so am hoping for the highest carat/spread I can get.

Would you be open to shapes other than princess cut? The a well-cut princess is not as spready (per carat) as some of the other diamond cuts.
 

FeFeV

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This is the link to the page for the first diamond. Unfortunately, because I placed the purchase on the second diamond, it is no longer on their site but I'll try to get the video from them :)

http://www.zoara.ca/diamonds/p_princess_excellent_cut_j_si1#?p=7551477
I noticed your diamond in question is from Zoara? We got my DH's awesome wedding ring from them (ask for a discount, they'll hook you up). I also had a double row eternity ring from them for about two weeks before I sent it back and had a bigger version with specific particulars custom made at a B&M... My old Zoara ring definitely had inferior diamonds to my custom made ring and the Zoara ring turned out to be overpriced for the diamond quality. I am saying all of this to say: Be Careful and shop around to make sure you are stretching your dollar as far as it will actually go.
 

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I'm going to post some others that are close to size/budget. They may not be "perfect" but those inclusions in your choices...ugh...deal breaker for
me. I could handle a little something off to the side but smack dab in the middle when there are other options out there???
I dont think you should limit yourself to those two stones.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.04-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2526511
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.05-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2209598
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.03-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2785138
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.12-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-3091832
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.02-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-3092354
 

Shaylene1080

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Would you be open to shapes other than princess cut? The a well-cut princess is not as spready (per carat) as some of the other diamond cuts.

I wish I was! But I tried on ring after ring in some local stores, and just keep going back to princess. They sing to my heart... it sucks that they face up so small :(
 

Shaylene1080

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I noticed your diamond in question is from Zoara? We got my DH's awesome wedding ring from them (ask for a discount, they'll hook you up). I also had a double row eternity ring from them for about two weeks before I sent it back and had a bigger version with specific particulars custom made at a B&M... My old Zoara ring definitely had inferior diamonds to my custom made ring and the Zoara ring turned out to be overpriced for the diamond quality. I am saying all of this to say: Be Careful and shop around to make sure you are stretching your dollar as far as it will actually go.

Oh yiy, sorry to hear about that. Thanks for the warning :)
 

Shaylene1080

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I'm going to post some others that are close to size/budget. They may not be "perfect" but those inclusions in your choices...ugh...deal breaker for
me. I could handle a little something off to the side but smack dab in the middle when there are other options out there???
I dont think you should limit yourself to those two stones.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.04-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2526511
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.05-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2209598
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.03-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2785138
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.12-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-3091832
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.02-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-3092354
Wow! Thanks for taking the time to search, I really appreciate it. There are definitely some I love here! Lots of sparkle! The 1.12 has great spread for its size, which is getting me excited. Thanks again!
 

tyty333

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Great! I think you can find something in your budget that has better/less inclusions and sparkles just as well as the two you posted.

The 1.12 is sparkly but its not sparkling that well at the north and south sides. There is sort of a bow-tie of sparkly area through the center. Make
sure you are ok with that. You would be trading some sparkle for size. Make sure you're ok with the trade off.
 

Shaylene1080

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Great! I think you can find something in your budget that has better/less inclusions and sparkles just as well as the two you posted.

The 1.12 is sparkly but its not sparkling that well at the north and south sides. There is sort of a bow-tie of sparkly area through the center. Make
sure you are ok with that. You would be trading some sparkle for size. Make sure you're ok with the trade off.

Thanks so much, tyty333. You P'scopers really know your stuff!!
 

Shaylene1080

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So I received the diamond that I wasn't sure about. We have it in a simple wg solitaire setting and are thinking the forever setting will be Verragio. However, I am loving this diamond! It is plenty white for my eyes and seems to have lots of sparkle and scintillation. That Now I just have to decide if I should still keep searching or stick with this one :whistle:
 

OoohShiny

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Post up some pictures if you can :)
 

Shaylene1080

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Sorry, my phone doesn't take great photos but hopefully this gives a rough idea. There is an inclusion right in the middle of the table, but it took me a good while to spot it with the naked eye so I'm ok with that :)
 

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Shaylene1080

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I attached a file but the photo didn't seem to show up. Is there a trick I'm missing?
 

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Once you've uploaded it, you might need to select it to post it?
 
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