Can you tell the difference?

[LouisianaGeaux]

Hello everyone, Ive been doing my share of research on this forum and I love the information that I have received. This is a great community! I am stuck between a certain set of diamonds and the overall picture of what I want. Like most, I want bigger, but is it worth it for another $1200 wish plus?

The 3 bigger ones that I like:

1: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2593115
2: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2716902
3: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2524060
4: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2599277

Smaller options:
1: vhttps://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.91-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2664997
2: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2663622


We are ranging from .9-1.17, Im wondering if the difference is worth it with the diamonds I have picked out. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I don't mind spending the extra money, but is it really worth it?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Sure, a 1.15 is larger visually than a .90. It would be worth it to me, but I can't say that would be true for everyone. Diamond prices are relatively low now, though, so it is certainly the time to go as big as the budget allows. But I really didn't like any of your larger stones. The I SI1 was the best cut of those 4, but it has a black inclusion under the table.

I am going to send you back to look again with some information to help you narrow down the better cut stones.
These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.

table: 54-58

depth: 60-62.3

crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)

pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

 

[diamondseeker2006]

To show you the size, I happen to have a picture with a pair of .93 diamonds on the left, then 1.2 in the center, and 1.15 on the right.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Thank you! I will report back!

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

If anyone has any suggestions of stones similar, please advise.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Here is another option I found:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2331937

 

[hifihua428]

Here are some of potential great performer for your consideration.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...m=61&DepthTo=62.50&TableFrom=53&TableTo=57.00

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Here are some of potential great performer for your consideration.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...m=61&DepthTo=62.50&TableFrom=53&TableTo=57.00

Thank you so much!

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Sure, a 1.15 is larger visually than a .90. It would be worth it to me, but I can't say that would be true for everyone. Diamond prices are relatively low now, though, so it is certainly the time to go as big as the budget allows. But I really didn't like any of your larger stones. The I SI1 was the best cut of those 4, but it has a black inclusion under the table.

I am going to send you back to look again with some information to help you narrow down the better cut stones.
These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.

table: 54-58

depth: 60-62.3

crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)

pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

I think I have narrowed it down to one, is there a way to message you on here?

 

[ringo865]

No messaging here, but put it on hold with the vendor then post it here for feedback.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2716907

This one came highly recommended with the price point i was at and the size i wanted. Feedback pleae

 

[Stephan]

Not a fan, it looks off-center.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Not a fan, it looks off-center.

I'm not exactly sure what off center means? :-/

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

I definitely would like some better options if anyone has any for me.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Here are some of potential great performer for your consideration.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...m=61&DepthTo=62.50&TableFrom=53&TableTo=57.00

These you selected are deemed better than the one I have posted today correct?

 

[MissGotRocks]

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3800301.htm?source=pricescope

How about something like this one?

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3800301.htm?source=pricescope

How about something like this one?

It is beautiful! I was wanting to stay with JA so i can order the setting as well for the complete package. Also that is out of my price range. Id like to stay under or at $5500. But geez, that one is beautiful!

 

[MissGotRocks]

I don't ever want to try to persuade someone to spend more money than they have budgeted. Maybe we should look at smaller size stones?

 

[MissGotRocks]

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2359308
You could ask them if this stone is eyeclean - it might be as the inclusion looks white rather than black.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

I don't ever want to try to persuade someone to spend more money than they have budgeted. Maybe we should look at smaller size stones?

I completly understand where you are coming from. My budget is right at $5500, Anything at that point or below is great. I was thinking I could pull off a 1.15+ct with a J or better color and achieve that price and get an amazing diamond that is eye clean. Is that not doable? If not, I dont mind adjusting, but keep in mind, I dont need a perfect stone, just close to it haha

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2694041

Is thisone a no go as well?

 

[MissGotRocks]

I don't know what setting you are looking at but chances are other vendors have something you might like just as well. My best advice is to find the most well cut diamond within your budget and make the setting your secondary concern - particularly if it is just a four or six prong setting on a plain band.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I completly understand where you are coming from. My budget is right at $5500, Anything at that point or below is great. I was thinking I could pull off a 1.15+ct with a J or better color and achieve that price and get an amazing diamond that is eye clean. Is that not doable? If not, I dont mind adjusting, but keep in mind, I dont need a perfect stone, just close to it haha

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2694041

Is this one a no go as well?

No, not completely though it has a thick girdle too that just hides weight and gives you a stone with less than optimal face up size.

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2359308
You could ask them if this stone is eyeclean - it might be as the inclusion looks white rather than black.

I was told, looking at it closely you could possibly tell.

I don't know what setting you are looking at but chances are other vendors have something you might like just as well. My best advice is to find the most well cut diamond within your budget and make the setting your secondary concern - particularly if it is just a four or six prong setting on a plain band.

I was going with the 4 prong french pave setting. I am very appreciative of your helping with this, it is stressful!

 

[ac117]

If you're ok with a J color, these are both very nice...but I would really recommend sticking to an I color bc a J is noticeably warm. I like the one MGR suggested and think it would be eye clean. You could get $100 with a referral code and ask them for a PS discount. That may put you at $5500 to stay within budget.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-j-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2574138
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-j-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2291616

This one may be nice, as well, but only if you could get an ideal scope since it does have a higher crown angle:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2593115

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

If you're ok with a J color, these are both very nice...but I would really recommend sticking to an I color bc a J is noticeably warm. I like the one MGR suggested and think it would be eye clean. You could get $100 with a referral code and ask them for a PS discount. That may put you at $5500 to stay within budget.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-j-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2574138
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-j-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2291616

This one may be nice, as well, but only if you could get an ideal scope since it does have a higher crown angle:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2593115

I really really like the 4138!!!

 

[Stephan]

I prefer the 1616 when looking at the color of the diamond.
The 4138 looks more brownish, the 1616 more yellowish (better in my opinion).

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

I prefer the 1616 when looking at the color of the diamond.
The 4138 looks more brownish, the 1616 more yellowish (better in my opinion).

What i was hoping was the SB florescence would make the stone appear more white, would that be the case?

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Anyone else wanna chime in?

 

[Texas Leaguer]

The majority of indoor lighting environments the diamond will be observed in over time do not contain UV of sufficient intensity to activate fluorescence. It is therefore generally not a good strategy to base a buying decision on the presumption that you will be getting a visual benefit.

There's an overview of this characteristic and the issues to consider here:
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-flourescence

 

[LouisianaGeaux]

Update:

I ended up going with:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-j-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2574138

Hoping it will turn out like I envision!

Paired with:
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...ch-cut-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-2496