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StevL
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From:South Carolina, USA
Registered: Jan 1900

posted 08-25-2001 12:31 PM    
Interesting short article in JCK magazine.

One note:
"It's one thing to add more information, but we also want to explain why it's important, says GIA president William E. Boyajian, adding, "We are close to a whole different level of understanding about cut. It could be a paradigm shift in people's thinking about it."

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leonid
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From:Toronto, Ontario
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 08-25-2001 12:35 PM    
Thank you StevL for the info.

More data for me is as diamonds for some

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lawmax
cut rock

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posted 08-25-2001 01:29 PM    
That phrase "paradigm shift" sure sounds familiar.
 
StevL
cut rock

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posted 08-25-2001 01:38 PM    
We must talk to the same people

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jamesd
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posted 08-27-2001 12:35 AM    
Amazing how lots of different people can come to the same conclusion, isn't it? Also interesting to see what happens when you aren't tied to a vested interest in a particular tool you're using or selling but can consider hem all and the scientific background to work out what to do.

Lots of room for a paradigm shift and it's not at all hard to explain what and why.
 

Cut Nut
cut rock

Posts: 232
From:Melbourne Australia
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 08-27-2001 04:20 AM    
Quote that comes up with HCA results " Many diamonds with excellent scores may not be traditional 'ideal cuts' but we
believe their value will rise once the GIA establishes its cut standard. " - This comment will one day be vindicated and so many AGS 0 stones will drop in value.

I showed Bill my notes (my lap top crashed) at Vegas and gave him an ideal-scope. He was politely encouraging (which probably means he thinks I am a raving looney) and wanted to know more about the article I am preparing for publication.
He understood the relationship between crown and pavilion angles and clearly wants to find solutions.
He made it very clear both he and the board (2 other board members confirmed this) are sick of pooring money and resources into the bottomless pit. I dont know if he is fully aware of the cold war that Sergey, Yuri and team are winning by a country mile - but then we know more about the MSU team than the GIA team's progress.
Hence the 2 ultimatums - show us something early 2002 and finish the job early 2003.

Interesting times.

 

jamesd
cut rock

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posted 08-28-2001 09:15 AM    
Interesting times indeed. It'll be ironic that once they are done they seem likely to conclude that a FireScope is the best commercially available tool. It is the best commercially available tool I know for the job and given the practical results it has produced in the form of the EightStar diamond cut its not without lots of support in the real world.

Ah well - we can only hope that AGS and GIA choose the same fundamental tool even if they do end up using different scales. At least we'd be in the pleasing position of having compatible systems if that happens, as has been done with the AGS respecting the popular GIA color grades.
 



 
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