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l0mp012
rough rock

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Registered: Mar 2001

posted 06-05-2001 10:56 AM    
is the GIA ever off?

i recently bought a stone that was represented as a vs1, I color brilliant cut stone with faint flouresence (1.79 carats if that matters?) when i got the ring appraised by a very distinguished and reputible appraiser (to remain nameless, but he has every designation one could want, etc...) the ring appraised as a G color, no flouresence, and vvs1. now i can understand the clarity rating, but the color and flouresence confuse me...can the gia be that off? the ring was compared to master stones and put into a machine for both color and flouresence. if the ring did have faint flouresence i could understand it grading as an I, but looking like a G...just a little confused? i had a long talk with the appraiser and asked him not to "jack up" the appraisal rating, etc. but he swore that that is what the stone really was.

i paid a great price for an I, vs1 stone, but a ridiculous price for a g,vvs1 -so i am pleasantly suprised. it does not mattter all that much, just wondering why maybe the discrepency.

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leonid
Moderator

Posts: 495
From:Toronto, Ontario
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 06-05-2001 11:02 AM    
Yeah, that's a surprise indeed! GIA is considered as the most strict in grading...

Has your appraiser checked the mounted or loose diamond?
 

l0mp012
rough rock

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posted 06-05-2001 11:05 AM    
unfortunately the stone was mounted. however it is in a platinum tiffany setting. should not skew the color that much. it would really suprise me if the appraiser was that off. i am somewhat knowledgable about diamonds and the reason i bought the stone was that it did not look anywehere near an I. however, i just chalked that up to being a good cut.

 
StevL
cut rock

Posts: 97
From:South Carolina, USA
Registered: Jan 1900

posted 06-05-2001 11:21 AM    
I have seen GIA miss by a small amount, but not in several areas on the same diamond. I would think that the diamond being set is moving the grade around a bit. Never know whats under a prong, and color simply can't be accurate on a set diamond. You may get close, but exact would be good luck.

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oldminer
cut rock

Posts: 61
From:Philadelphia, PA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 06-05-2001 12:34 PM    
One must keep in mind that the system of grading we use belongs to the GIA. Since it is their system, they can defend themselves as never being wrong. They can say that outsiders have made a mistake in judgement.

Truthfully, the GIA does reconsider the grading of diamonds on a regular basis and does sometimes change the grade. Rarely would any dealer request a revision to a lower grade, so the certs in circulation always represent correct or slightly high grading. If a dealer gets a "too low" grade from GIA, the cert is tossed aside in favor of some other lab's more liberal report. This is a rather common practice if the grading cannot be resolved with the GIA graders.

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David Atlas
Accredited Gem Appraisers

 



 
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