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Author Topic:   Difference between thin & med girdle
glenn925
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From:Caldwell, NJ, USA
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posted 12-18-2000 12:13 PM    
I have found a diamond that rated a 1.8 in the cut advisor...But the rating is based on a vg polish and med girdle,,,The diamond I am interested in has a thin girdle,,,but an exc polish & sym!!! It is an H&A diamond...Should I worry about it having a thin girdle??

 
leonid
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posted 12-18-2000 12:32 PM    
Hi Glenn, Thin girdle is not affecting beauty of the diamond.

Tolkowsky described his ideal diamond with Extremely Thin - Knife Edge girdle.

AGS ideal proportions allow Thin to Slightly Thick girdles.

The only problem with a thin girdle is a higher chance to chip it.

As for better polish and symmetry, it shouldn't hurt you at all

[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 12-18-2000).]
 

oldminer
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From:Philadelphia, PA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 12-18-2000 12:33 PM    
In an otherwise proplery cut stone, the thin girdle will have little adverse effect on durability and will have no effect on appearance. A thin girdle combined with a shallow crown angle contributes to a decrease in durability allowing girdle chipping and larger breakage to more readily occur.

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David Atlas
Accredited Gem Appraisers

 

leonid
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posted 12-18-2000 12:43 PM    
Thank you, Oldminer.

If I'd know that you are around, I'd better shut up. Thanks so much for your help
 

glenn925
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posted 12-18-2000 12:51 PM    
WOW,,,you guys are FASSSSTTTTTTT!!!! Thank you!!!!!

 
leonid
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posted 12-18-2000 02:08 PM    
Glenn, You're welcome! Hope we help

 
davidt
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posted 01-27-2001 09:31 AM    
a thin girdle is virtually NO DIFFERENT than a medium. it is no more or less appealing,has NO effect on the beauty or brillance, and is absolutley NOT more likely to chip more than a medium, AND it is quite unlikely that even well experienced diamond appraiser could look at a diamond girdle and be certain whether the GIA would call it a thin girdle or a medium....THE DIFFERENCE is EXTREMELY microscopic.
but for those who are enthralled with such minutia, a THIN girdle is generally prefered, similarly to a very small or no culet being prefered.

 
davidt
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posted 01-27-2001 09:32 AM    
a thin girdle is virtually NO DIFFERENT than a medium. it is no more or less appealing,has NO effect on the beauty or brillance, and is absolutley NOT more likely to chip more than a medium, AND it is quite unlikely that even well experienced diamond appraiser could look at a diamond girdle and be certain whether the GIA would call it a thin girdle or a medium....THE DIFFERENCE is EXTREMELY microscopic.
but for those who are enthralled with such minutia, a THIN girdle is generally prefered, similarly to a very small or no culet being prefered.

 
davidt
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posted 01-27-2001 09:33 AM    
a thin girdle is virtually NO DIFFERENT than a medium. it is no more or less appealing,has NO effect on the beauty or brillance, and is absolutley NOT more likely to chip more than a medium, AND it is quite unlikely that even well experienced diamond appraiser could look at a diamond girdle and be certain whether the GIA would call it a thin girdle or a medium....THE DIFFERENCE is EXTREMELY microscopic.
but for those who are enthralled with such minutia, a THIN girdle is generally prefered, similarly to a very small or no culet being prefered.

 
lawmax
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posted 01-27-2001 09:42 AM    
What I've read most is that Very thin to Extremely thin girdles are to be avoided in fear of chipping during setting or daily wear.

It seems reasonable to me-diamonds are expensive and there are so many out there (in general). I would prefer to err on the side of safety.

lawmax
 

Cut Nut
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From:Melbourne Australia
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 01-29-2001 07:15 AM    
A thin girdle gives max spread and reasonable protection against chipping.
Very thick girdles have little impact on beauty - but a big impact on spread because there is additional weight at the thickest part of the stone.
Garry

 
leonid
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posted 01-29-2001 09:47 AM    
Here is a good reference for the girdle thickness: www.gis.net/~adamas/cut.html

 
lawmax
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posted 01-29-2001 10:19 AM    
Good link Leonid-that information is not so easy to find.


 



 
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