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 princess cut question

P:  6/11/2001 11:25:00 AM  
repete7
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Buying a princess cut 1.71 depth 67% table78%.vs1 f color.my question is should you be able to see shadows from facets.is this normal.to me it looks like inclusions.price 11'100.thanks.

 


Posted:  6/11/2001 11:25:00 AM

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P: 6/11/2001 11:02:00 AM
repete7
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thanks alot for the info.i looked at it outside in the sun,it's perfect...

Posted:  6/11/2001 11:02:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:08:00 AM
repete7
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no...no shadows

Posted:  6/11/2001 11:08:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:26:00 AM
repete7
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GIA cert..I'm looking at it under indoor lightabout a foot away.

Posted:  6/11/2001 11:26:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:33:00 AM
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Bingo! It is your own shadows then.

Does it still bother you?



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Posted:  6/11/2001 11:33:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:34:00 AM
repete7
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when you move the ring up and down,side to side the "shadows"dissapear.also if i look at it outside it looks alot better.is it possible it's picking up reflections from around it?

Posted:  6/11/2001 11:34:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:35:00 AM
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Good. Do you see any changes with the "shadows" if you get closer/far from the stone?

Frankly, I've never heard of shadows from facets... In pear, oval or marquise shapes one can see a bow-tie effect but not in princess.



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Posted:  6/11/2001 11:35:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:42:00 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by repete7:
is it possible it's picking up reflections from around it?

It is not only possible, it is what really happens. When you view the diamond from a short distance it picks up the colors of your hears, clothes, etc.

Try this simple experiment. Take a white paper sheet and make a small hole. Look at your diamond through this hole. Would you be able to see the shadows?



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Posted:  6/11/2001 11:42:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:43:00 AM
repete7
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I guess i'm too picky.the shadow to me looks like an inclusion.i know it's not because the stone is a vs1.I think I should get over it.I think I'm driving myself and the jeweler nuts.

Posted:  6/11/2001 11:43:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:46:00 AM
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Hi Repete7,

Could it be a reflection of your own head? From what distance do you observe the diamond?

The price sounds about right. In the Internet you could get it a bit cheaper. Does it have a lab report?



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Posted:  6/11/2001 11:46:00 AM
P: 6/11/2001 11:57:00 AM
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Repete7, no wonder you're picky when you spent quite a few bucks.

If it bothers you, I'd recommend to check the stone with knowledgeable independent gemologist. Or send the diamond to David Atlas ( www.gemappraisers.com ) who is the expert in fancy shapes.



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Posted:  6/11/2001 11:57:00 AM
P: 7/1/2001 11:13:00 AM
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U41f, 60.6% depth is not too shallow. The table and total depth belong to 2B AGA class.

There are other factors though that can affect appearance of the diamond (e.g. crown and pavilion)

Usually princess cut is deeper than round (see www.drostes.com/princess-depth.html ). On the other hand deeper diamond looks smaller for its weight.

Reflection of the observers head is not necessary a negative factor. For instance, one can see pleasant dark arrows in Hearts and Arrows round diamonds because of this effect.



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Posted:  7/1/2001 11:13:00 AM
P: 7/1/2001 11:52:00 AM
u41f
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Leonid,

I just got a princess and it seems to have shadow too. When I pus on a white paper there seems to be four dark spot on each side of diamond. But on a black cloth in the tube the shadow disappear. After follow your instruction shadow seems to disappear. However, I still not very comfortable because the diamond is kind of shallow.
It's a 0.66CT depth 60.6% and Table 74%. GIA. Do you think the depth could contribute to this shadow too?.

Thanks in advance.
U41F

Posted:  7/1/2001 11:52:00 AM

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