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 Help with first diamond purchase...

P:  10/8/2008 2:45:36 PM  
boyscout
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...and last, as far as engagement rings are concerned!

I have been studying all I can on the topic of diamonds, and have read a great deal on this site as a lurker. First of all, thank you all so much for the valuable information and resource this site provides--much appreciated!

My question:
I was referred by a good friend to a dealer on 47th Street to find the stone for my girlfriend's engagement ring. Can anyone be of help to me in determining if the following stone is a good choice and fairly priced? If priced too high, any suggestion on value and what I should try to negotiate for?

Specs:

Radiant cut
1.27 carats
D Color
VS1 Clarity
Excellent Polish
VG Symmetry
No Fluorescence
7.50mm x 6.05mm x 3.38mm
Table 67%
Depth 56%
GIA Certified

Asking price $10,000 (loose stone)

The diamond is shallow and from above looks bigger than it really is, carat-wise. Is the depth of the stone too shallow?


Thanks!
boyscout

Posted:  10/8/2008 2:45:36 PM

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P: 10/8/2008 2:58:16 PM
Regular Guy
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Hey Boyscout...

I couldn't find an option close to those characteristics, but I did find one...

not too far away
at a dealer close to you
for slightly less $
with a great rep here
known to be uniquely equipped to identify only those diamonds that perform really well
and I can be at ease directing him to what you want.

Otherwise...without reflector images, no proportion data seems to help us know whether a described option would perform well or not.

Best wishes, and welcome to Pricescope!

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
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Posted:  10/8/2008 2:58:16 PM
P: 10/8/2008 3:03:59 PM
Stone-cold11
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http://diamonds.pricescope.com/fnc2.asp

Definitely too shallow, 3A class cut from the AGA cut charts. Probably will not perform well.

And too expensive.

This GOG stone is 1.94c G VS2 at 8980 wire price. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4996/
I do not know how to judge radiant cut but GOG has a good name and most of their stones perform very well. They are based in Long Island so you can even drop in on them with an appointment.

EDT:
Ira, you are faster than me... :P

Posted:  10/8/2008 3:03:59 PM
P: 10/8/2008 3:43:00 PM
boyscout
boyscout

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What are the issues with too shallow a depth? The stone seems to have a lot of brilliance. Also, what price/carat should I be aiming for, assuming D color, VS1 clarity and EX polish VG sym?

Posted:  10/8/2008 3:43:00 PM
P: 10/8/2008 11:40:05 PM
Regular Guy
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Boyscout...

I see Stone gave you the link documenting possible problems with your stone.  I think the AGA charts he pointed you to are less about performance, and more about reasonableness in targets, with performance being included in the metric.  With a focus on performance, having the reflector image...like from ASET (do a search) will help us help you.

Otherwise...do a search up top on "Pricescope your Diamond."  A quick search came up with only 2 comparables...slightly lower in quality/size...but..also at half the cost or less.

Regards,

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
____________

If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick!

however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous…

Posted:  10/8/2008 11:40:05 PM
P: 10/9/2008 4:58:42 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 10/8/2008 11:40:05 PM
Author: Regular Guy
Boyscout...

I see Stone gave you the link documenting possible problems with your stone. I think the AGA charts he pointed you to are less about performance, and more about reasonableness in targets, with performance being included in the metric. With a focus on performance, having the reflector image...like from ASET (do a search) will help us help you.

Otherwise...do a search up top on 'Pricescope your Diamond.' A quick search came up with only 2 comparables...slightly lower in quality/size...but..also at half the cost or less.

Regards,

Ditto!!! 









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Posted:  10/9/2008 4:58:42 AM

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