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Is this a true H&A diamond?

P: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM
sac75578 Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 10/31/2008 Member Since: 10/2/2008	is this diamond a true H&A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&A on it? http://www.idjewelryonline.com/cert.php?id=EDP-379 also, is this diamond a good value at $14,470? Thanks
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM

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P: 10/8/2008 10:13:21 AM
Paul-Antwerp Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,902 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/3/2002	Nobody can tell based upon the cert only, whether this is a true H&A, an almost H&A or something extremely far from an H&A. Paul Slegers Infinity Diamonds www.CraftedByInfinity.com
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:13:21 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:13:36 AM
John Pollard Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,526 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 5/1/2008	Date: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM Author:sac75578 is this diamond a true H&A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&A on it? There is no way to know without seeing the actual H&A photographs for this diamond. GIA is simply reporting what the seller had inscribed on it. If it had "Sarah Palin hearts Alaska" inscribed that would be reported... In this case the seller asked for H&A to be inscribed, which could mean something, or nothing. John __________________________ John Pollard Infinity Diamonds www.CraftedByInfinity.com
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:13:36 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:14:27 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,859 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Maybe, maybe not. GIA only noted that there is an existing inscription on the girdle of the stone which says H&A. You have to see the round for yourself the hearts and arrow image with a H&A scope or at least a pic from the vendor to confirm it.
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:14:27 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:15:29 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM Author:sac75578 is this diamond a true H&A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&A on it? http://www.idjewelryonline.com/cert.php?id=EDP-379 also, is this diamond a good value at $14,470? Thanks Do you have any images which display the hearts and arrows of this diamond? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:15:29 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:17:24 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 10:13:36 AM Author: John Pollard Date: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM Author:sac75578 is this diamond a true H&amp;A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&A on it? There is no way to know without seeing the actual H&A photographs for this diamond. GIA is simply reporting what the seller had inscribed on it. If it had 'Sarah Palin hearts Alaska' inscribed that would be reported... In this case the seller asked for H&A to be inscribed, which could mean something, or nothing. LOL! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:17:24 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:20:47 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,859 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	yap, John, too funny... :D
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:20:47 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:21:18 AM
sac75578 Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 10/31/2008 Member Since: 10/2/2008	no i don't, i;m requesting it from the seller, no replies yet. the diamond is comming up on pricescope searches where more than one seller is selling it, and i don't think the seller actually has the diamond.
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:21:18 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:32:31 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,859 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Why don't you try a lower color and clarity? You could get a GOG or WF ACA confirm H&A for that amount easily. For example this GOG http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4885/ 1.32c H VS2 for only $9458
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:32:31 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:33:37 AM
nicktenny Rough Rock Total Posts: 23 Last Post: 11/5/2008 Member Since: 8/29/2008	I have very recently dealt with ID jewelry. They're customer service is great. If I remember correctly, they are closed today and tomorrow for Yom Kippor (I hope I got the right Jewish holiday). If you call them and talk to Yekutiel he will be extremely helpful. He sent me pics, idealscope, and told me to bug him until I was happy. It just may be a couple day delay due to the holiday.
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:33:37 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:36:18 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 10:32:31 AM Author: Stone-cold11 Why don't you try a lower color and clarity? You could get a GOG or WF ACA confirm H&A for that amount easily. For example this GOG http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4885/ 1.32c H VS2 for only $9458 I don't know if that is the case here, but some posters prefer higher clarity and or colour for purity or cultural reasons, just something to bear in mind. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:36:18 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:49:47 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,859 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	I know, just throwing out suggestions... :P
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:49:47 AM

P: 10/8/2008 10:59:29 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 10/8/2008 10:17:24 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 10/8/2008 10:13:36 AM Author: John Pollard Date: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM Author:sac75578 is this diamond a true H&amp;amp;A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&amp;A on it? There is no way to know without seeing the actual H&amp;A photographs for this diamond. GIA is simply reporting what the seller had inscribed on it. If it had 'Sarah Palin hearts Alaska' inscribed that would be reported... In this case the seller asked for H&amp;A to be inscribed, which could mean something, or nothing. LOL! wink ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 10/8/2008 10:59:29 AM

P: 10/8/2008 11:46:22 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 10:59:29 AM Author: Ellen Date: 10/8/2008 10:17:24 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 10/8/2008 10:13:36 AM Author: John Pollard Date: 10/8/2008 10:07:36 AM Author:sac75578 is this diamond a true H&amp;amp;amp;A diamond or is it misleading because its inscribe with H&amp;amp;A on it? There is no way to know without seeing the actual H&amp;amp;A photographs for this diamond. GIA is simply reporting what the seller had inscribed on it. If it had 'Sarah Palin hearts Alaska' inscribed that would be reported... In this case the seller asked for H&amp;amp;A to be inscribed, which could mean something, or nothing. LOL! wink Do I remember Monsieur Le Pollard jesting that a diamond could have Joanie loves Chachi inscribed on it once upon a time? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 11:46:22 AM

P: 10/8/2008 11:52:10 AM
John Pollard Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,526 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 5/1/2008	Date: 10/8/2008 11:46:22 AM Author: Lorelei Do I remember Monsieur Le Pollard jesting that a diamond could have Joanie loves Chachi inscribed on it once upon a time? Thou dost, and he jesteth not. In sooth it could be insripted thus. It couldst even invoke "The Fonz." Or "Fuzzy Eyelash Bunny" Or "Karate Chipmunk-Varmint" Or "Bangers & Mash" ...Gets thee the gist, fair lady? John __________________________ John Pollard Infinity Diamonds www.CraftedByInfinity.com
Posted: 10/8/2008 11:52:10 AM

P: 10/8/2008 12:09:39 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 11:52:10 AM Author: John Pollard Date: 10/8/2008 11:46:22 AM Author: Lorelei Do I remember Monsieur Le Pollard jesting that a diamond could have Joanie loves Chachi inscribed on it once upon a time? Thou dost, and he jesteth not. In sooth it could be insripted thus. It couldst even invoke 'The Fonz.' Or 'Fuzzy Eyelash Bunny' Or 'Karate Chipmunk-Varmint' Or 'Bangers & Mash' ...Gets thee the gist, fair lady? ROFLMAO!!!!! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 12:09:39 PM

P: 10/8/2008 12:27:59 PM
sac75578 Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 10/31/2008 Member Since: 10/2/2008	If this diamond is indeed a H&A, based on the specs, is this a good value at $14470? Thanks
Posted: 10/8/2008 12:27:59 PM

P: 10/8/2008 12:33:17 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 10/8/2008 12:27:59 PM Author: sac75578 If this diamond is indeed a H&A, based on the specs, is this a good value at $14470? Thanks You can use the search tool above to compare prices of similar Pricescope your Diamond: Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 10/8/2008 12:33:17 PM

P: 10/8/2008 12:36:41 PM
nicktenny Rough Rock Total Posts: 23 Last Post: 11/5/2008 Member Since: 8/29/2008	I don't know if you're set on the VVS1 clarity, but if you do a "cut quality" search here on pricescope, there are some beautiful H&A diamonds in your price range and color and carat range that have clarities of VVS2-VS2 (which should be completely eye clean).
Posted: 10/8/2008 12:36:41 PM

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