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 Whoa! Serious-Advice on these two stones-I put the CC down on one (Reserved)

P:  10/8/2003 7:52:18 PM  
spicolicpa
spicolicpa

Cut Rock
Total Posts: 243
Last Post: 12/1/2003
Member Since: 9/25/2003
 
Man,

Tell me what you guys think of these two stones. One is a IDEAL and other is not BUT rates a bit higher on the HCA. (Sweaty palms)I reserved the Super w/ CC but not bought it yet


Cut: SUPER IDEAL
Measurements: 6.27-6.30 X 3.84 MM
Color:G
GIA Measurements
Finish Carat Weight: 0.92
Depth:61.1%
Fluorescence: FAINT
Table: 56%
Clarity: SI2
Girdle: THIN TO MEDIUM-FACETED Grade: Culet: NONE
Characteristics: CRYSTAL-NEEDLE-FEATHER-INDENTED
Polish: EXCELLENT
Symmetry: EXCELLENT
Crown (Megascope Measurements) Angle: 34.0' Height: 14.5%
Pavil: Angle: 41.0' Depth: 43.2%

Light return report-
White light-Very High (Off Chart)
Color Light-Very High (Off Chart)
Scintillation- In the middle of Very High
HCA Score
Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Very Good
Spread or diameter for weight Very Good
Total 1.3
Price $4,000

The other stone is:
G
SI1
Find attached the Sarin
HCA
LightReturn Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread Very Good
HCA Score .8
$3,800

The cheaper got an HCA score Higher but the other I was told is H&A's.

Help with some advice please.......


Battle the Obfuscation
Posted:  10/8/2003 7:52:18 PM

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P: 10/8/2003 9:14:37 PM
TheDiamondangel
TheDiamondangel

Cut Rock
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Last Post: 10/6/2005
Member Since: 3/12/2003
 
Without even having to look closer at all the stats, I can say that I PERSONALLY would not go with the Super simply because of the indented natural. It would drive me insane knowing it was there, even if it could be completely covered with a prong. That's just one of my pet peeves when it comes to rocks.

TheDiamondangel
winkjones.com

Posted:  10/8/2003 9:14:37 PM
P: 10/8/2003 10:12:34 PM
Richard Sherwood
Richard Sherwood

Ideal Rock
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Last Post: 11/21/2009
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Tough choice Spic.

It basically boils down to a battle between a higher clarity on one stone and a higher optical symmetry on the other.

Which is more important to you?

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  10/8/2003 10:12:34 PM
P: 10/11/2003 1:32:08 AM
niceice
niceice

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Member Since: 1/29/2003
 
Post the plotting diagrams.

The indented natural is probably not a cause for concern, it's simply part of the original 'skin' of the diamond which was not removed - no doubt for weight purposes, but the odds are that it is located along or just under the girdle edge and rarely poses a concern... But still, the plotting diagram would be quite helpful... Feathers in SI-2 clarity diamonds are something to study very carefully, they are often substantial... Let's see those plots!

By the way, a 34 degree crown angle and a 41 degree pavilion angle is NOT "SUPER IDEAL"... that would be a crown angle between 34.3 - 34.8 degrees with a pavilion angle between 40.6 - 40.9 degrees, what you're looking at is just plain old ideal which isn't bad, but it's not super... Think of the scale for the ideal cut rating as a range, and as with any range, it has a high and a low end of the scale so that it will be acceptable to a variety of cutters who might otherwise not submit their diamonds to the AGS laboratory for grading... The center of the range is the intended target, oh we've probably just opened up a S--- storm better get out the rain gear

Todd L. Gray, President
NiceIce.com

Posted:  10/11/2003 1:32:08 AM
P: 10/11/2003 11:53:27 PM
Mara
Mara

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Hmm what a tough decision! I don't know which I'd choose --- they both sound great!! The diff in HCA scores IMO is minimal...both are excellent.      (faces contributed by better half who wanted to add something to my post)
 
Good luck...good eye on both!   It's a tough decision! The first one has a smaller range of diameter and also looks like it may be a *slight* bit bigger..though that doesn't really help. Hmm. I like that the first one has a Bscope report and the scores on that are exceptional as well. Do either have an IdealScope image?

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Posted:  10/11/2003 11:53:27 PM

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