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P:  10/8/2003 2:20:08 PM  
radiant_nyc
radiant_nyc

Rough Rock
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Which one of these do you recommend?
Both are very similar in price but measurements quite different.
Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks.

Shape Asscher Asscher
Carat 1.51 1.52
Color G G
Clarity VS1 VS1
Measurements 6.99-6.95X3.63 6.47-6.46X4.51
Table % 67 49
Depth % 52.2 69.8
Polish Excellent Very Good
Symmetry Good Good
Girdle VTN-M VTNM
Culet None Medium
Fluorescence Negligible Negligible
Certificate GIA GIA
Price $8,874.00 $8,928.00




Posted:  10/8/2003 2:20:08 PM

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P: 10/8/2003 2:28:18 PM
DancinGirl
DancinGirl

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I'm not an expert on Asshers at all - but I would go for the first one I think - just sounds better with Excellent and No Culet. Everything else is the same except the numbers.

Someone else who knows more may tell you differently though. Good luck.

~*~ Dancin Girl ~*~

"I get up ~ I walk ~ I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing."

Posted:  10/8/2003 2:28:18 PM
P: 10/8/2003 4:34:25 PM
Richard Sherwood
Richard Sherwood

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Table % 67 49
Depth % 52.2 69.8
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The first stone is shallow with a large table. This is more indicative of a square emerald cut than an Asscher cut.

The classic Asscher cut is usually a deeper cut with a small table, like your second set of figures indicates. If you were able to post a photograph, we'd be able to tell you for sure.

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  10/8/2003 4:34:25 PM
P: 10/9/2003 12:39:54 AM
Hest88
Hest88

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What Richard said. Problem is, that's just one indication that you may be getting something that looks more like an asscher than a square emerald. Make sure you have a good return policy so you can *see* if it has that hexagonal infinity pool shape as opposed to just successive squares.

Posted:  10/9/2003 12:39:54 AM
P: 10/9/2003 5:55:57 AM
valeria101
valeria101

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These may not be as the patented Asscher, but they sure must have that square look that almost anyone calls 'Asscher'. No problem with this, if you so choose. I am a little amazed that the first cert say 'no cullet' - how does That cut look? The first stone is spready (larg-ish table, but nothing scary and a quite shallow cut). The other stone, in turn, should be quite a curious make with that tiny table! This could look good, as it did in an emerald cut I have seen with simmilarly small table, but you don't want a surprise.

I think that both stones have unique cuts, with one or two aspects out of the norm. They can have very beautiful and distinctive looks, but, if you want something unusual, you have to see them in person, preferably side by side. I would guess that the second stone (the one with the small table) would have better light return and quite a bit of colored light retun and scintillation (like an old cut). The first could look very elegant, with less overall sparkle, but intriguing flashes from the large facets. Depending on what setting you have in mind, both looks could be great.


Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  10/9/2003 5:55:57 AM
P: 10/11/2003 1:23:02 AM
niceice
niceice

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Neither, they're both cut badly. Beware the very thin girdle, it's prone to breakage. In our opinion, Asscher's look best when cut deeper, in the range of 67 - 70% with table diameters in the mid 60's... Excellent polish and symmetry is readily available so why settle for Good? The better the symmetry, the less the leakage. Sorry, but to us these seem like polar opposites on the 'looking for a buyer who doesn't have a clue' scale.

Love your icon by the way Lewis

Todd L. Gray, President
NiceIce.com

Posted:  10/11/2003 1:23:02 AM

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