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P: 9/12/2008 6:56:23 PM
DingDing Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 9/16/2008 Member Since: 9/12/2008	We just have our first baby, and my wife just got back from the hospital. I want to buy her a new diamond ring as a gift. I found one piece of loose diamond, here is the information: GIA Certificate Carat: 3.00 Cut:Very Good Color: D Clarity: VVS2 Depth% 66.3% Table% 71% Symmetry: Good Polish: Very Good Girdle: Thin to thin Fluorescence: none Measurements: 8.08 X 7.99 Length/Width Ratio: 1.01 Price per car: $26413 Total Price: $78000 I am a newbie, don't know much about diamond. I did some homework before I found this one. I know the color and the clarity is pretty good for this stone, but I am a little bit worry about the symmetry, I don't think" Good" is good enough to be the perfect stone. However, I'd like to know whether it's OK to buy this piece of store at that price? Thanks in advance !
Posted: 9/12/2008 6:56:23 PM

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P: 9/12/2008 7:06:23 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	First, what shape? Princess? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:06:23 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:20:25 PM
DingDing Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 9/16/2008 Member Since: 9/12/2008	Sorry, forgot. It's princess
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:20:25 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:27:29 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	3 ct D VVS2 is very fine...less stones to compare prices to. Use the Pricescope your diamond tool at the top. PS: congratulations!!!
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:27:29 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:31:44 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/12/2008 7:20:25 PM Author: DingDing Sorry, forgot. It's princess That's ok! First, let me say what a fabulous present this is going to be! You are a great husband. The problem with fancy cuts, is that we can't tell a whole lot from numbers, we'd need different info. Are you dealing with a local store? What I can say is, usually, you want the table smaller than the depth. But that is not always an absolute. Also, symmetry would be better at Very good to Excellent. What I would suggest, to help ensure you get a nice stone, is to look for AGS graded stones. They grade for light performance, so it takes a lot of the guess work out, making it easier. And I would also add, in a well cut stone like an AGS0, you could lower things a bit, easily F-G, and down to VS2 without noticing anything different. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:31:44 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:39:59 PM
Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,317 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004	Date: 9/12/2008 7:31:44 PM Author: Ellen What I would suggest, to help ensure you get a nice stone, is to look for AGS graded stones. They grade for light performance, so it takes a lot of the guess work out, making it easier. And I would also add, in a well cut stone like an AGS0, you could lower things a bit, easily F-G, and down to VS2 without noticing anything different. Maybe like this. You'd have to pocket the other half. If you need my address to help with that, please advise (?!). Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. ____________ If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick! however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:39:59 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:42:16 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:42:16 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:53:53 PM
DingDing Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 9/16/2008 Member Since: 9/12/2008	Just found another one on seller's website, here is the info: Carat weight: 3.11 Cut: Very Good Color: E Clarity: VVS2 Depth %: 74.6% Table %: 71% Symmetry: Excellent Polish: Excellent Girdle: Slightly thick to thick Culet: None Fluorescence: Faint Measurements: 8.17 x 7.75 x 5.78 mm Length/width ratio: 1.05 Price per carat: $25,968 Toal price $79500 This one is E color, I think it's OK, but I am consider about the Fluorescence. Which one I should get?
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:53:53 PM

P: 9/12/2008 7:59:18 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	faint is not even the slightest bit noticeable. anyway, it will be difficult to get PSers to tell you if a stone is good without pictures
Posted: 9/12/2008 7:59:18 PM

P: 9/12/2008 8:00:28 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,467 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	What about this beauty? This will be a killer stone and you can save yourself some serious cash too...unless the high color/clarity are cultural things you likely won't notice a difference in color once it's set and you certainly won't notice a clarity difference... http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond.php?d=3938&shape=16&ctMin=3.0&ctMax=4.0&resultsColumns=268435471&singleResult=1
Posted: 9/12/2008 8:00:28 PM

P: 9/12/2008 8:02:09 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/12/2008 7:59:18 PM Author: JulieN faint is not even the slightest bit noticeable Agreed. This one looks fine by the numbers/stats. I take it you are looking online? Can you get an ASET or Idealscope photo? Because we simply cannot say with certainty it's a great stone just by this info. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/12/2008 8:02:09 PM

P: 9/12/2008 8:15:15 PM
DingDing Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 9/16/2008 Member Since: 9/12/2008	Called seller- Blue Nile, too bad, they don't have any photos. But they do have 30 days return policy, if I am not happy with store, I can return it within 30 days with no change.
Posted: 9/12/2008 8:15:15 PM

P: 9/12/2008 8:20:53 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/12/2008 8:15:15 PM Author: DingDing Called seller- Blue Nile, too bad, they don't have any photos. But they do have 30 days return policy, if I am not happy with store, I can return it within 30 days with no change. Ok, then I would suggest getting it and taking it to an independant appraiser first thing. If it checks out, voila, you are half way done. If not, might ask one of the vendors who provide pics to search for you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/12/2008 8:20:53 PM

P: 9/12/2008 10:00:18 PM
purrfectpear Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,702 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 3/31/2008	I know many women like Princess cuts, but this is a major purchase. Has she ever hinted that she likes them? I'd be sort of crushed if I got a 3 carat Princess diamond because I would feel way too guilty to ever tell the giver of such a great gift that I just don't like them? Not that there's anything wrong with that shape, you just want to make sure it's something SHE will like "Style is knowing who you are, what you want to say and not giving a damn." -Gore Vidal
Posted: 9/12/2008 10:00:18 PM

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