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Would you buy/have you bought from this company? CHICAGO

P: 9/9/2008 6:05:11 PM
love_sparkles Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 7/17/2008	Long story short, one of my girlfriends has a connection to this company- http://www.gottliebbrothers.com/index.html They supposedly sell "wholesale" & would be willing to work with my boyfriend and I because we have a connection to the family. My girlfriend and her mother are pushing us to go to them in order to get a bigger stone for less money, but I'm hesitant based on what I've learned here. I don't know a lot, but it looks like these diamonds aren't certified? Has anyone ever heard of this company? Done business with them? What do you all, as experts, think about working with a company like this? FWIW, we currently have a diamond on hold with GOG- a 1.5, I, SI1. I would love to go a little bigger & better on color, but don't want to sacrifice an amazing cut! Thanks!!!
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:05:11 PM

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P: 9/9/2008 6:14:29 PM
swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,294 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006	I don't think you could compare a hand-picked stone from GOG with an uncertified stone. I honestly wouldn't be comfortable with a "friend of the family" situation. It gets sticky if something goes wrong.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:14:29 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:29:51 PM
love_sparkles Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 7/17/2008	I'd tend to agree with you on the potential for a sticky situation. I already feel slightly pressured by my friend to check them out. She can't imagine why my boyfriend would spend the money elsewhere when he could get something of similar quality but larger from her "guy." I guess I just wonder since they say they have a colorimeter that works with GIA standards & they use GIA as their basis, yadda yadda, if it could actually be similar. They give you an "evaluation" with all the angles you'd need to put in the HCA so I suppose there's always that. http://www.gottliebbrothers.com/pages/technology.html I have no doubts that I would be thrilled with GOG, but my girlfriend's family has some amazing jewelry that they claim comes from this place, so I am led to temptation...
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:29:51 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:31:12 PM
CharmyPoo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,584 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 12/10/2004	Does it hurt to ask them to look and see what the options are? If you don't like it, you still have your GOG diamond.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:31:12 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:32:08 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,477 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	I cannot even count the number of horror stories we hear about "friends of the family". If you want to check it out, by all means certainly do. But go prepared, and DO NOT BUY no matter how much pressure they give you. Bring all the information back here, and we'll help you compare. And IF you decide to buy from them after all this, make the sale contingent upon an independent appraisal. Oh and anyone who claims that they are a "wholesaler but sell to the public" is either A) lying to the government about taxes, B) doesn't understand what a wholesaler is, C) is totally clueless and/or manipulative, or D) a combo of above. Anyone who sells to the public is a RETAILER. Period. Don't buy their BS.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:32:08 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:34:18 PM
love_sparkles Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 7/17/2008	Good point, Charmy. Maybe I'm afraid I'll get a look at something BIG & lose sight of what's really important! Plus, I have a hard time standing up to this friend & would feel strange telling her that I like what I've found better.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:34:18 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:35:36 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,477 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 9/9/2008 6:34:18 PM Author: love_sparkles Plus, I have a hard time standing up to this friend & would feel strange telling her that I like what I've found better. That's another reason to just bow out now IMO before you get involved and get pressured into buying something that probably isn't the "deal" it's supposed to be.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:35:36 PM

P: 9/9/2008 6:37:39 PM
love_sparkles Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 7/17/2008	Date: 9/9/2008 6:32:08 PM Author: neatfreak I cannot even count the number of horror stories we hear about 'friends of the family'. If you want to check it out, by all means certainly do. But go prepared, and DO NOT BUY no matter how much pressure they give you. Bring all the information back here, and we'll help you compare. And IF you decide to buy from them after all this, make the sale contingent upon an independent appraisal. Oh and anyone who claims that they are a 'wholesaler but sell to the public' is either A) lying to the government about taxes, B) doesn't understand what a wholesaler is, C) is totally clueless and/or manipulative, or D) a combo of above. Anyone who sells to the public is a RETAILER. Period. Don't buy their BS. Good to know & thanks! While we're at it, I should probably make a new post, but here is the diamond he has on hold- http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4577/ My only fear is that we are planning on having Maytal Hannah make the setting (I can't wait!) & she uses F & G colored melee. I've never seen an 'I' in person- should probably do that as well before purchasing. Sarah from GOG says it's very white face up, but the setting will show a lot of the profile.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:37:39 PM

P: 9/9/2008 7:06:37 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,477 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 9/9/2008 6:37:39 PM Author: love_sparkles Date: 9/9/2008 6:32:08 PM Author: neatfreak I cannot even count the number of horror stories we hear about 'friends of the family'. If you want to check it out, by all means certainly do. But go prepared, and DO NOT BUY no matter how much pressure they give you. Bring all the information back here, and we'll help you compare. And IF you decide to buy from them after all this, make the sale contingent upon an independent appraisal. Oh and anyone who claims that they are a 'wholesaler but sell to the public' is either A) lying to the government about taxes, B) doesn't understand what a wholesaler is, C) is totally clueless and/or manipulative, or D) a combo of above. Anyone who sells to the public is a RETAILER. Period. Don't buy their BS. Good to know & thanks! While we're at it, I should probably make a new post, but here is the diamond he has on hold- http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4577/ My only fear is that we are planning on having Maytal Hannah make the setting (I can't wait!) & she uses F & G colored melee. I've never seen an 'I' in person- should probably do that as well before purchasing. Sarah from GOG says it's very white face up, but the setting will show a lot of the profile. You will be totally fine with an I center stone from GOG. I wouldn't worry. And IF you decide to go see I's in person, make sure you are comparing apples to apples by comparing only an AGS or GIA graded ideal cut stone that is an I.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:06:37 PM

P: 9/9/2008 7:34:57 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I have to agree with the stories we hear from working with a "friend of the family/friend of a friend", etc. They rarely have a happy ending, and as noted, it can get sticky. Also, after trying to shop locally and finally buying online (a H&A stone from GOG), the only stones I saw that begin to compare with mine were Hearts on Fire, and there's a hefty premium that comes with. I doubt you could compare apples with apples at this place.... I personally vote to politely say you've found your own jeweler to work with, and leave it at that. Sure, they will be breaking their necks to see what you ended up with. Just let the stone speak for itself. Oh, and you might hand out some shades while you're at it. It will give them something to fiddle with while it leaves them speechless. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:34:57 PM

P: 9/9/2008 8:15:09 PM
AprilBaby Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,268 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/17/2008	I agree with Ellen. Search the "friend of the family" threads and see all the problems. Besides, if it is a friend or "her guy" do you really want them to find out how much you paid? Do it YOUR way "Time is not what you think. Dying? Not the end of everything. We think it is. But what happens on earth is only the beginning." -Mitch Albom, The Five People You Meet in Heaven
Posted: 9/9/2008 8:15:09 PM

P: 9/9/2008 8:38:53 PM
girlie-girl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 819 Last Post: 6/5/2009 Member Since: 5/29/2008	This friend sounds a bit pushy for my liking. My initial reaction is to say NO WAY, especially if said friend makes you not able to stand up for yourself. This is YOUR ring, not hers and she really shouldn't have any input. I also agree with the others that situations where there is a 'friend of a friend' involved things don't usually turn out well. I'd suggest you go to an uninvolved third party and leave it at that. I don't feel you need to even explain your decision other than to say thanks for the referral, but you're using someone else. Good luck!
Posted: 9/9/2008 8:38:53 PM

P: 9/9/2008 8:53:22 PM
NeverEndingUpgrade Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,537 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/3/2007	I bought an I/SI1 from GOG and it is totally white! No worries there.
Posted: 9/9/2008 8:53:22 PM

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