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Remember 'Conflict' and 'Blood' diamonds, well DeBeers is at it again! |
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| P: 9/25/2003 1:06:04 PM | |
winyan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/1/2006 Member Since: 5/9/2003 |
http://www.idexonline.com/start.asp win
"... (Corporations) have all the benefits of voters, without the guidance of a conscience. ... Corporations they will bring this country down." Theodore Roosevelt 1904 |
| Posted: 9/25/2003 1:06:04 PM | |
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| P: 9/25/2003 1:12:10 PM | |
mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
This blow-up has been brewing for quite a while, and seemed to me to be inevitable. But I don't see what this has to do with conflict diamonds.
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| Posted: 9/25/2003 1:12:10 PM | |
| P: 9/25/2003 1:30:51 PM | |
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winyan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/1/2006 Member Since: 5/9/2003 |
Just another example of how DeBeers attempts to use indigenous peoples...be they miners, or cutters. win "... (Corporations) have all the benefits of voters, without the guidance of a conscience. ... Corporations they will bring this country down." |
| Posted: 9/25/2003 1:30:51 PM | |
| P: 9/25/2003 3:27:37 PM | |
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mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
De Beers has really painted itself into a corner on this one. If they give the locals in Canada what they want, they stir up the Africans. It will be interesting to see what happens. The Canadians may tell them to take a hike, now that they're no longer the only game in town.
It's really amazing how De Beers has fallen on its face so many times in Canada while other groups have had such success.
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| Posted: 9/25/2003 3:27:37 PM | |
| P: 9/26/2003 8:24:43 AM | |
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winyan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/1/2006 Member Since: 5/9/2003 |
*giggle* Furthermore, more likely they will find new ways to insert diamonds into more interesting 'body' jewels! win "... (Corporations) have all the benefits of voters, without the guidance of a conscience. ... Corporations they will bring this country down." |
| Posted: 9/26/2003 8:24:43 AM | |
| P: 9/26/2003 2:14:51 PM | |
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winyan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/1/2006 Member Since: 5/9/2003 |
No, sad isn't it, Furthermore? The training of indigenous peoples in the NW Territories is supposed to help them survive the loss of monies from the subsistence trapping that was their former income producer, but since some people feel that animal skins shouldn't be worn as clothing, there's very little else to provide a minimum income for these people. It's the old story, damned if you do, damned if you don't. win "... (Corporations) have all the benefits of voters, without the guidance of a conscience. ... Corporations they will bring this country down." |
| Posted: 9/26/2003 2:14:51 PM | |
| P: 9/29/2003 10:40:50 AM | |
innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,920 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003 |
I'd love to know more info on debeers. They sound super sleazy. Is it true that they have stock piles of diamonds and only release a certain amount to keep the prices high?
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| Posted: 9/29/2003 10:40:50 AM | |
| P: 10/6/2003 9:24:24 AM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
---------------- Hi! I may be wrong, but without De Beers (or any other monopoly) do you believe that diamonds will retain their prices and appeal for the next generation especially outside the US? If so, we have different opinions and I would greately appreciate some insight into your argument. Not that I am very affraid that fair trade practices may make the diamond market cruble over night: after all, this is a big players' market even if they would be a couple instead of just one. PS: As for the DeBeers 'stock-pile'(Q below): well, it is out there, but the diamonds accumulated in consumers' hands are a few times as many (3 to 5 times, I found estimated). This means that De Beers could loose its shaft over night if people would stop loving their diamonds and could sell them for a decent % of what they have paid. Just a work hypothesis here... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 10/6/2003 9:24:24 AM | |
| P: 10/6/2003 9:28:19 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Reply to Innerkitten 9/29/2003 : _____________"I'd love to know more info on debeers. They sound super sleazy. Is it true that they have stock piles of diamonds and only release a certain amount to keep the prices high?" ___________________________________________________________________________ Just curious here: Would you still value diamonds as much if they were as cheap as, say, garnet? Sometimes I really wonder what people pay for... 
Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 10/6/2003 9:28:19 AM | |
| P: 10/6/2003 10:17:44 AM | |
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winyan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/1/2006 Member Since: 5/9/2003 |
Personally, I probably would, because I love the sparkle. win "... (Corporations) have all the benefits of voters, without the guidance of a conscience. ... Corporations they will bring this country down." |
| Posted: 10/6/2003 10:17:44 AM | |
| P: 10/6/2003 10:28:41 AM | |
glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002 |
CZs actually sparkle more, though. If diamonds were cheap, they would soon lose their air of expense and exclusivity. But they'd still be pretty.
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| Posted: 10/6/2003 10:28:41 AM | |
| P: 10/6/2003 12:29:26 PM | |
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innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,920 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003 |
Well I like diamonds because they sparkle but recently I've become a lot more interested in colored stones.
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| Posted: 10/6/2003 12:29:26 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2003 4:21:28 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
---------------- Pretty is the word... There are stones out there with more fire and higher refraction, some more consistently white, and all the colored ones! Diamonds are the only white stone to fetch large sums... I think there is a story to tell in there. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 10/8/2003 4:21:28 AM | |
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