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David R. Boggess? Using appraisers who buy/sell jewelry? |
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| P: 8/18/2008 3:21:46 PM | |
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panda08 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 543 Last Post: 9/30/2009 Member Since: 7/30/2008 |
I'm in Southern California and have been trying to find an appraiser who can provide a comprehensive appraisal that includes a total cut analysis with Sarin, etc. with the latest technology. The ones I have emailed from the independent appraiser list have either not responded to my questions about the technology they use or cannot provide the services I'm looking for. I found David R. Boggess from the National Association of Jewelry Appraisers' website. His website appears impressive and he has access to a lot of the technologies I am looking for. HOWEVER, he buys and sells jewelry and thus, is not independent. Does anyone have any experience with him? If I use a non-independent appraiser, should I approach the process differently than if I use an independent one? Thanks!
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| Posted: 8/18/2008 3:21:46 PM | |
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| P: 8/18/2008 7:29:23 PM | |
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AndyMN Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 5/23/2009 Member Since: 6/2/2008 |
Have you considered sending the diamond and/or setting to one of the appraiser-contributors from Pricescope? They have a pretty loyal following here. I've noticed that Neil Beaty, in particular, posts quite a bit, is located in Denver and has all the latest measuring tools, etc.
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| Posted: 8/18/2008 7:29:23 PM | |
| P: 8/19/2008 12:48:32 AM | |
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:) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,864 Last Post: 6/1/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2006 |
I live in So Cal and shipped mine to Richard Sherwood in Sarasota. He uses plenty of high tech toys and is extremely good. I would also be happy to use Dave Atlas (Oldminer) or Neil Beaty (Denver Appraiser)
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| Posted: 8/19/2008 12:48:32 AM | |
| P: 8/19/2008 8:33:18 AM | |
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oldminer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,966 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/4/2000 |
Some appraisers successfully wear two hats depending on the job they are doing for their client. Others just can't distinguish one job from another. What you and others need who want an objective opinion is to find an appraiser capable of doing the correct job for you without bias. In my own case, I have never been a retailer. I used to be a wholesaler of modern, antique reproduction and authentic estate jewelry along with old cut diamonds and many colored gems. I only sold to the trade. However, I bought on opportunity primarily from dealers , but often from members of the public. All during that period, my firm was appraising jewelry and rarely did one operation come into conflict with the other. We did not offer to buy items unless we were asked if we were interested from appraisal clients. Rarely did we perform an appraisal and then buy the items. I'd simply prefer to buy outright and save the client the appraisal fee. It takes less time and costs everyone less. The typical consumer can't take a diamond or a piece of jewelry bought somewhre else to an "appraiser-retailer" and be fully confident of getting a truly unbiased appraisal. Sure, a few appraisers of that sort exist who just simply are honest and fair, but there are far more who will tell you to return the item and buy a better one from them. Vendors fear that every appraiser-retailer is like this, but not every last one is a rotten apple. The problem is the majority can't be unbiased and have created a lot of fear. Reputation goes a long way in choosing who to trust for an appraisal. Overall, nothing is a substitute for many years of doing the right things. Avoiding appraiser-retailers when you need unbiased appraisals on new items is a good idea, but the concept that an appraiser can't be an honest buyer is not a correct perception in most instances and especially where the appraisal of newly purchased items is concerned. David S. Atlas |
| Posted: 8/19/2008 8:33:18 AM | |
| P: 9/4/2008 9:00:17 PM | |
Darthkim Rough Rock Total Posts: 85 Last Post: 9/6/2009 Member Since: 8/25/2008 |
Hi panda08, Did you end up finding an appraiser in OC? I just came across David Boggess website, and his duality has me a little bit concerned. I'm still waiting for my ring to arrive. Here are the people i came up with for my appraisal. Patrick Davis - http://www.certifiedjewelryappraiser.com/ Nancy Stacy - http://www.jewelry-appraisal.com/ I believe nancy posts on PS, i just happen to click on her link in one of the Appraisal Threads. Hope to find someone in OC, but if not, a drive to LA it is...
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| Posted: 9/4/2008 9:00:17 PM | |
| P: 9/4/2008 10:51:44 PM | |
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panda08 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 543 Last Post: 9/30/2009 Member Since: 7/30/2008 |
Date: 9/4/2008 9:00:17 PM Author: Darthkim Hi panda08, Did you end up finding an appraiser in OC? I just came across David Boggess website, and his duality has me a little bit concerned. I'm still waiting for my ring to arrive. Here are the people i came up with for my appraisal. Patrick Davis - http://www.certifiedjewelryappraiser.com/ Nancy Stacy - http://www.jewelry-appraisal.com/ I believe nancy posts on PS, i just happen to click on her link in one of the Appraisal Threads. Hope to find someone in OC, but if not, a drive to LA it is... I didn't wind up using Boggess because of my concerns about whether he'd be truly unbiased. I emailed Patrick Davis but he never responded to me. I did not come across Nancy Stacy in my search. I initially contacted Gina D'Onofrio, who was very friendly and helpful but unfortunately could not fit me into her schedule. In the end, I used Geoffrey Nelson, who's in Pasadena and part of a group of appraisers known as Jewelry Judges. Their website is www.jewelryjudge.net. ![]() |
| Posted: 9/4/2008 10:51:44 PM | |
| P: 9/5/2008 1:35:16 AM | |
Darthkim Rough Rock Total Posts: 85 Last Post: 9/6/2009 Member Since: 8/25/2008 |
Thanks Panda08. I'll give them a try. May I ask how much it came out to?
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| Posted: 9/5/2008 1:35:16 AM | |
| P: 9/5/2008 2:23:27 AM | |
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panda08 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 543 Last Post: 9/30/2009 Member Since: 7/30/2008 |
Date: 9/5/2008 1:35:16 AM Author: Darthkim Thanks Panda08. I'll give them a try. May I ask how much it came out to? You're welcome! It was $125. ![]() |
| Posted: 9/5/2008 2:23:27 AM | |
| P: 10/17/2008 7:56:28 PM | |
dboggess Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 10/17/2008 Member Since: 10/15/2008 |
I have been a jewelry appraiser for over 25 years, and the first 10 years I did not buy or sell jewelry. After I began to buy and sell jewelry, I realized that my appraisals became much more accurate. One of the things that consumers don't realize is that if a jewelry appraiser does not buy or sell, they have no direct connection to market prices. Appraisers that don’t buy and sell use “pricing theories” and market research to determine the value of the jewelry they appraise since they have never actually bought hundreds of diamonds from wholesalers or made every kind of jewelry dozens of times that they appraise. When you have a “vested financial interest” in knowing exactly what something cost and you are buying and selling that commodity on a daily basis is when you really learn its value. There is no question that someone who is actually in the business of buying and selling jewelry is in a much better position to determine the value of jewelry than someone who does not.
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| Posted: 10/17/2008 7:56:28 PM | |
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