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| P: 5/11/2001 11:29:00 AM | |
henrihuman Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 6/6/2001 Member Since: 5/31/2001 |
Hi there, I was wondering what it means if someone says that a type 2a diamond is nitrogen free? I hope someone can hep me? Kind regards, Henri Human
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| Posted: 5/11/2001 11:29:00 AM | |
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| P: 5/11/2001 11:06:00 AM | |
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Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,567 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
We are a wealth of info here folks, great stuff. Type I diamonds have nitrogen that can be dispersed through out the stone replacing a carbon atom. This absorbs some blue light and is why most diamonds are in the 'cape' or slightly yellow series. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 5/11/2001 11:06:00 AM | |
| P: 5/11/2001 11:08:00 AM | |
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lawmax Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,260 Last Post: 3/8/2009 Member Since: 1/1/2000 |
Leonid-you beat me to it. Also note this part as it refers to the use of type IIa diamonds in HPHT treated diamonds: The two pear brilliant diamonds submitted for grading were of different types; the heavier E-colour diamond is of Type Ia whereas the rarer colour (D-colour grade) stone belongs to the Type IIa sub- group. The retailer jeweller may at this point be asking what this discussion of diamond types has to do with him? He may think the two diamonds are well matched so their ‘type’ is not important to him. But the jeweller should recall that almost all the diamonds suitable for the high pressure-high temperature (HPHT) diamond treatment designed to remove the brown component thus improve the colour grade, are of Type IIa. This form of treatment, as carried out by GE POL has been discussed in previous GemLab columns. It is paramount that gemmologists can identify and further study Type II a diamonds. In our laboratory we use infra- red spectroscopy to routinely screen all colourless diamonds submitted for testing and grading; Type IIa diamonds yield a different i-r spectrum compared with the spectra of the other diamond types. Of the GE POL treated diamonds examined by researchers, the vast majority are type IIa and are of very good colour and clarity grades. The number of such treated diamonds represents a tiny fraction of all polished diamonds in the global market. Once a good quality colourless Type IIa diamond is identified, further work is needed to establish whether it is a HPHT treated stone. Researchers have found that any pale yellow coloration in such treated diamonds is due to very low concentrations of single nitrogen, not detected in untreated Type IIa diamonds. Using laser- excited photoluminescence spectroscopy at low temperatures may reveal two luminescence peaks in the spectrum. The ratio of the intensities of these peaks may offer one method of identifying HPHT treated diamonds. |
| Posted: 5/11/2001 11:08:00 AM | |
| P: 5/11/2001 11:47:00 AM | |
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oldminer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,964 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/4/2000 |
The type IIA diamonds can be screened readily by testing for opacity or transparency to Short Wave UV and by testing for the presence of or lack of electrical conductivity. These two simple tests will eliminate type IIB and all type I diamonds only leaving the very rare IaB and IIA types. In the vast majority of all diamonds we are told type IIA is only about a 1% occurence. Type IaB is only a tiny fraction of that. In large diamonds, we are given to understand type IIA is far more common than we have been led to believe. I have asked if they might be as high as 10% to 20% of diamonds 3 carat and larger. While I was not given a real answer, the smile on the faces of those asked indicated I was headed somewhere they did not wish to go with a direct answer. I feel that we may have to deal with a rather large number of potentially treated or treatable diamonds in the important and expensive large sizes eventhough we are told that overall these diamonds are very rare. However, once the diamonds have been screened by cheap and easy testing, if one needs to know more, then the fancy IR Spectroscope comes into play, but unless you are a scientist or work in a very world class lab, it is far from an essential tool for most gemologists at the present time. Maybe it will become a less costly tool and the need may grow to have them in normal gem labs. Time will tell. It is my understanding that IIA diamonds are not absolutely nitrogen free. This has been said to be a simplistic description but not exactly the case. David S. Atlas |
| Posted: 5/11/2001 11:47:00 AM | |
| P: 5/11/2001 11:58:00 AM | |
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Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000 |
Hi Henri, ![]() Check out these links: and In particular: quote: Pricescope |
| Posted: 5/11/2001 11:58:00 AM | |
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