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P:  8/6/2008 8:11:46 PM  
lv2008
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Hello

On this idealscope the center seems to be shifted to one side making the inner arrow portions look shorter on one side.   This is an AGS0 diamond,  was the diamond slightly tilted when this pic was taken?  I would assume so since its AGS0

thoughts

 



Posted:  8/6/2008 8:11:46 PM

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P: 8/6/2008 8:39:44 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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it can be the photo or it can be the diamond, either way it is a very very fine stone

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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Posted:  8/6/2008 8:39:44 PM
P: 8/6/2008 8:47:51 PM
Richard Sherwood
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I agree with Garry, a very fine stone with very fine (but not top-top) precision optical symmetry.  An ideal cut, but probably not a Hearts & Arrows stone.  Something which you won't notice with the naked eye, and shouldn't eliminate because of it.  In all likelihood this stone screams like a banshee.

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  8/6/2008 8:47:51 PM
P: 8/6/2008 8:50:09 PM
lv2008
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Interesting - I would have thought an AGS0 would have perfect symmetry.  I wonder why this wouldnt get a ding for symmetry

Posted:  8/6/2008 8:50:09 PM
P: 8/6/2008 9:01:52 PM
Richard Sherwood
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Perfect technical symmetry, yes.  Technical symmetry is how well the facets line up and how symmetrical they are.  Perfect optical symmetry is a different thing, which requires as additonal degree of precision.  How well crown facet angles line up with the opposing pavilion facet angles, etc.  If they line up perfect it shows a perfectly symmetrical pattern top and bottom (Hearts & Arrows).

This stone looks to have Ideal proportions with a top end Idealscope image and probably "near Hearts & Arrows" symmetry.  A stone whose visual presentation will look fantastic.


Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  8/6/2008 9:01:52 PM
P: 8/6/2008 9:26:01 PM
kcoursolle
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It's hard to say from the picture whether it's tilted or not.  You could call up the vendor and ask for a re-shoot, but honestly the stone will be lovely either way.  If it is a symmetry issue, it would be hard to notice in person. 

Posted:  8/6/2008 9:26:01 PM
P: 8/6/2008 9:27:47 PM
Skippy123
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Date: 8/6/2008 9:26:01 PM
Author: kcoursolle
It's hard to say from the picture whether it's tilted or not. You could call up the vendor and ask for a re-shoot, but honestly the stone will be lovely either way. If it is a symmetry issue, it would be hard to notice in person.
Ditto everyone else, looks beautiful!!!

Hi Richard

Skippy






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Posted:  8/6/2008 9:27:47 PM
P: 8/6/2008 9:38:10 PM
Richard Sherwood
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Hi Skippy.  You're beautiful as ever.


Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
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Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
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Posted:  8/6/2008 9:38:10 PM
P: 8/6/2008 10:53:06 PM
Skippy123
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Date: 8/6/2008 9:38:10 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood
Hi Skippy. You're beautiful as ever.


Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory
Ah, thanks friend, I put something in your Who's Who so I don't threadjack!  Yay for Richard!

Skippy






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Posted:  8/6/2008 10:53:06 PM
P: 8/6/2008 11:01:59 PM
lv2008
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The pic is from WF and i guess the normal person who takes pictures was out.  I automatically assumed the diamond wasnt level during the pic because i thought i read somewhere from John Q that its typically tough to get the diamond level when taking a pic and it was an AGS0.  Ill ask WF

Posted:  8/6/2008 11:01:59 PM
P: 8/6/2008 11:23:11 PM
Skippy123
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Date: 8/6/2008 11:01:59 PM
Author: lv2008
The pic is from WF and i guess the normal person who takes pictures was out. I automatically assumed the diamond wasnt level during the pic because i thought i read somewhere from John Q that its typically tough to get the diamond level when taking a pic and it was an AGS0. Ill ask WF
It is a gorgous looking stone!  Keep us posted.

Skippy






"The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos

Posted:  8/6/2008 11:23:11 PM
P: 8/7/2008 4:27:34 PM
lv2008
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Hello

WF retook the pic and said it wasnt level during the first shot.  Here's the new one

HCA .9  Shes a beauty


 

 

Posted:  8/7/2008 4:27:34 PM
P: 8/7/2008 4:29:45 PM
Lorelei
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YUM!









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Posted:  8/7/2008 4:29:45 PM
P: 8/7/2008 4:38:48 PM
:)
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Date: 8/6/2008 8:47:51 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood
I agree with Garry, a very fine stone with very fine (but not top-top) precision optical symmetry. An ideal cut, but probably not a Hearts & Arrows stone. Something which you won't notice with the naked eye, and shouldn't eliminate because of it. In all likelihood this stone screams like a banshee.

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory



Threadjack -
hee hee - RICHARD!!  HI!!!  I missed your jokes/witticisms!

Posted:  8/7/2008 4:38:48 PM
P: 8/7/2008 9:06:43 PM
Richard Sherwood
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That's the ticket, LV. Definitely worth taking a look at.

Hiya :). Missed your M&M face too.


Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  8/7/2008 9:06:43 PM

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