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 Getting close - is this diamond a winner?

P:  8/6/2008 4:21:21 AM  
Chapter 41
Chapter 41

Rough Rock
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I think I've got a winner.

First, FYI, what I've been looking for is a RB that looks about like a 1 carat, looks pretty much colorless, performs very well cut-wise, is eyeclean, and won't cost too much much over $3000.

That said, here is my potential winner:

GIA Certified
Carat: 0.90
Color: I
Clarity: SI1 (reportedly eye-clean... PS vendor will double-check this)
Cut: GIA Excellent
Pol/Sym: EX/EX
Flourescence: Faint
HCA score: 1.9 (e.v.v.v)
AGA score: 1A
Avg. Diameter: 6.21 mm

For $2995, is this a great deal or simply average? Any thoughts?

Also, I asked the vendor (a reputable PS vendor) if they could provide IdealScope, Sarin report, etc. They said they could, but that since they would need to have the diamond shipped in from another vendor, I'd need to be serious enough about this stone that I'd to be willing to pay the $50 to cover shipping costs between the vendors if I later backed out for no good reason (a "good reason" being if, for example, the stone turned out not to be eye-clean as reported). But if everything checked out as stated and I still decided to back out, I'd be charged the $50.

Is this normal business practice? Any thoughts on this?

Thanks! I'm starting to get excited now that I'm actually on the verge of buying (which means I'm that much nearer to proposing!).
Posted:  8/6/2008 4:21:21 AM

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P: 8/6/2008 4:31:34 AM
swingirl
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Paying to have a stone shipped in is pretty standard. Then they can visually inspect it and give you their opinion as well as all the photos.

Posted:  8/6/2008 4:31:34 AM
P: 8/6/2008 5:00:31 AM
Skippy123
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Date: 8/6/2008 4:31:34 AM
Author: swingirl
Paying to have a stone shipped in is pretty standard. Then they can visually inspect it and give you their opinion as well as all the photos.
I agree with this.  It is nice for them to look at it and tell you what they think. . . if it is eye clean, etc.

Skippy






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Posted:  8/6/2008 5:00:31 AM
P: 8/6/2008 6:57:20 AM
Lorelei
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Crown and pavilion angles please, plus diameter measurements in full if you can.  Yes a shipping fee is usual.









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Posted:  8/6/2008 6:57:20 AM
P: 8/6/2008 12:31:25 PM
Chapter 41
Chapter 41

Rough Rock
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Thanks swingirl, Skippy, and Lorelei for your help!

Here are more detailed specs:

Table: 57%
Depth: 61.4%
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Crown angle: 34.5
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Measurements: 6.20-6.22 x 3.81mm
Girdle: Thin-Medium (faceted)

The GIA report doesn't show the actual plot of inclusions (why is it that some GIA reports include this and some seem not to?), but the inclusions listed are: Crystal, Cloud, Needle

Hopefully the faint fluorescence isn't a problem. It doesn't specify what color it is. Is there any way that I can tell how the fluorescence might affect the performance without seeing the diamond in person? can any of the tools like IdealScope, etc., help?

Posted:  8/6/2008 12:31:25 PM
P: 8/6/2008 12:34:37 PM
Lorelei
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Date: 8/6/2008 12:31:25 PM
Author: Chapter 41
Thanks swingirl, Skippy, and Lorelei for your help!

Here are more detailed specs:

Table: 57%
Depth: 61.4%
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Crown angle: 34.5
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Measurements: 6.20-6.22 x 3.81mm
Girdle: Thin-Medium (faceted)

The GIA report doesn't show the actual plot of inclusions (why is it that some GIA reports include this and some seem not to?), but the inclusions listed are: Crystal, Cloud, Needle

Hopefully the faint fluorescence isn't a problem. It doesn't specify what color it is. Is there any way that I can tell how the fluorescence might affect the performance without seeing the diamond in person? can any of the tools like IdealScope, etc., help?


It looks promising, ask the vendor if they could send you an Idealscope image of the diamond, just to confirm the numbers.  If the report was scanned, sometimes the details on the plotting diagram don't transmit that well.  Faint fluorescence won't be a problem - no worries at all!  Very rarely strong or very strong blue can make a diamond look cloudy in some lights, but this is unusual - and nothing to worry about in your case with faint!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  8/6/2008 12:34:37 PM
P: 8/6/2008 12:42:14 PM
Regular Guy
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Date: 8/6/2008 12:31:25 PM
Author: Chapter 41

The GIA report doesn't show the actual plot of inclusions (why is it that some GIA reports include this and some seem not to?), but the inclusions listed are: Crystal, Cloud, Needle

41,

The sub 1 carat certs from GIA more standardly, I believe, will not give you that mapped detail, but in trade, you'll get an inscription (which is a good thing).

Looking good.

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
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Posted:  8/6/2008 12:42:14 PM
P: 8/6/2008 12:44:17 PM
Lorelei
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Date: 8/6/2008 12:42:14 PM
Author: Regular Guy

Date: 8/6/2008 12:31:25 PM
Author: Chapter 41

The GIA report doesn't show the actual plot of inclusions (why is it that some GIA reports include this and some seem not to?), but the inclusions listed are: Crystal, Cloud, Needle

41,

The sub 1 carat certs from GIA more standardly, I believe, will not give you that mapped detail, but in trade, you'll get an inscription (which is a good thing).

Looking good.


That could be it!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  8/6/2008 12:44:17 PM

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