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P:  7/12/2008 9:27:24 PM  
goobear78
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Hi - I've narrowed the search down to a radiant cut. I was thinking of getting a plain pave setting with a radiant cut diamond. But I'm a newbie. I've been reading through past posts on Radiant cuts and I still feel lost. fficeffice" />


 


What should I be looking for? I can spend up to $10,000.

What dimensions should it have?

What vendors do you suggest? Any that you think have a great selection and understanding of radiant cut ?

Thanks for your help and suggestions!


Posted:  7/12/2008 9:27:24 PM

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P: 7/12/2008 10:39:22 PM
goobear78
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I was also considering an Emerald cut too.

What are you thoughts on an Emerald vs. Radiant?

Posted:  7/12/2008 10:39:22 PM
P: 7/12/2008 10:48:37 PM
danielNJ
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Hey, I did a ton of shopping for my Radiant. First and foremost Color, stay below H, Radiant or Fancy cuts show yellow to my eye way more than RB's. Second you have to decide between square rectangular. Rectangular radiants have more spread and tend to have a visable "bow tie", which many people like. I personally like more square, which can more of a crushed ice look inside. Get an eye clean stone, even if its an si1 or 2, it can be "eye-clean". Here's a nice stone from ERD, Mark is Fantastic!  It fits in your price range, nice specs.  Many will say the table needs to be smaller, but I have a 73 table on mine and it has huge amounts of FIRE!  Lastly, you have to see it, fancy cuts numbers do not work like rounds. I saw Radiants with killer specs, 61 table, 65 depth, high crown, and they stunk in person!

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/loose_detail.php/session/dbc32189b7b6690dfc06a25c5999e17b/id/16351441/sz/150/premium/premium


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Good luck, keep posting and asking ?'s!

Posted:  7/12/2008 10:48:37 PM
P: 7/12/2008 10:54:30 PM
goobear78
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Thanks for the tips DanielNJ. There are so many things to think about, my head is swimming.

Your ring is BEAUTIFUL!!!

Posted:  7/12/2008 10:54:30 PM
P: 7/12/2008 10:58:17 PM
danielNJ
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look at all three, Radiant, Asscher, Emerald. Pick the style you like. Radiant=lots of facets, Asscher=wind mill, Emerald=boxes.  They all are beautiful! 

Posted:  7/12/2008 10:58:17 PM
P: 7/13/2008 1:14:11 AM
kcoursolle
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First of all, I recommend going and seeing radiants and emerald cuts in person.  They are totally different in appearance, but both beautiful! 

If you do decide on a radiant, it's in general very hard to find well cut radiants.  It's always a good idea to call a vendor, goodolgold.com, whiteflash, jamesallen, or engagementringsdirect and asking them to find you a well-cut stone.  If you want to look yourself, you really need to look at images and in person is even better because radiants can't be judged by numbers alone.  However, a good guideline is 60-68% depth, 60-65% table, and a crown height over 10%. 

It is mostly personal preference whether you like the look of rectangular or square radiants better.  Rectangular radiants are harder to find well-cut than box radiants.  As daniel mentioned, radiants tend to show quite a bit of color relative to other cuts so I would stay in the D-H range.  You can go down to an SI quite easily though since the cut disguises inclusions fairly well. 

Posted:  7/13/2008 1:14:11 AM
P: 7/13/2008 4:21:27 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 7/12/2008 9:27:24 PM
Author:goobear78




Hi - I've narrowed the search down to a radiant cut. I was thinking of getting a plain pave setting with a radiant cut diamond. But I'm a newbie. I've been reading through past posts on Radiant cuts and I still feel lost. fficeffice' />











What should I be looking for? I can spend up to $10,000.

What dimensions should it have?

What vendors do you suggest? Any that you think have a great selection and understanding of radiant cut ?

Thanks for your help and suggestions!


The best way is to work with a vendor who has in house diamonds, radiants are very difficult to judge by numbers so you need to have access to detailed pics if buying online and ASET images if you can get them.  Please use any given numbers as a guide only, otherwise you run the risk of missing out on many beautiful diamonds. 

Here is the chart - http://diamonds.pricescope.com/fnc2.asp 

Also you can consider even down to SI clarity, personally I would look at H and below for colour for the time being.  Radiants can show more warmth than other shapes, so this might narrow things down nicely for you.

As to my thoughts with a radiant versus EC, both are very different looks, personally I would choose the EC in preference, but either would be a lovely choice, it depends what you like most.









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Posted:  7/13/2008 4:21:27 AM
P: 7/14/2008 10:57:00 AM
Indira-London
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Date: 7/12/2008 9:27:24 PM
Author:goobear78

Hi - I've narrowed the search down to a radiant cut. I was thinking of getting a plain pave setting with a radiant cut diamond. But I'm a newbie. I've been reading through past posts on Radiant cuts and I still feel lost. fficeffice' />





What should I be looking for? I can spend up to $10,000.

What dimensions should it have?

What vendors do you suggest? Any that you think have a great selection and understanding of radiant cut ?

Thanks for your help and suggestions!


Forget numbers when looking at fancy cut diamonds such as emerald and radiant cut as each one is unique in shape varying from oblong through to square

Emerald cut diamonds get their name from the style of cut used most often for cutting green emeralds - its a style of cut (step-cut) with large see-though facets which shows of colour (in the case of white diamonds, absenece of colour) and clarity. As emerald cut diamonds are so see-through they require a higher quality of colour AND clarity to avoid seeing bocy colour or inclusions.

Radiant cut diamonds are a modified brilliant cut and were developed to get the most sparkle from the same outline octagonal outline as an emerald cut diamond so that side by side a radiant cut diamond sparkles more. Like emerald cut - radiant cut diamonds are a good way to show off colour and hence are popular for fancy colour diamonds. For white diamonds - its best to stay with D-H colour. Radiant cut diamonds are more tolerant of inclsuions so unlike emerald cut diamonds you can go lower on clarity.

Re. availabiliy: ca. 1-2% of all diamonds are cut in the emerald cut shape and much less than 1% (e.g. 1 in every 2000-3000) is cut in the radiant shape so at any one time neither shape will be available in many permutations of carat/color/clarity/well-cut shape.

The best way to choose which shape appeals is to see and try on the different shapes by visting shops to see what suits you best!

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Posted:  7/14/2008 10:57:00 AM

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