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P: 9/3/2003 5:40:23 PM
Acclaim Rough Rock Total Posts: 26 Last Post: 9/9/2003 Member Since: 7/30/2003	A local vendor told me that there is a secret in diamond bussiness that not many people know about. He said that diamonds from Africa, India and other hot climate countries are sparklier and more brilliant than diamonds from cold climate countries like Belgium, Canada, etc., assumming that they have same color and clarity and cut proportions. He also mentioned that he only sells diamond from "hot" climate countries. Is this a sell tactic, or it is partly true? I have not come across any thread on this topic. Have anyone noticed or heard about the difference in optical properties of diamonds from warm and hot climate countries?
Posted: 9/3/2003 5:40:23 PM

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P: 9/3/2003 5:54:00 PM
mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002	And just when I think I've heard everything... This is 100% bogus. When De Beers, for example, gets its diamonds out of the ground, they are combined without regard to origin and sorted into grading categories based only on quality and size. By the time they are cut and polished, there is no way that jeweler has the slightest clue where his stones came from. Only diamonds from Canada are currently being sold based on their origin, and they carry a premium because of it. Diamonds form 90-120 miles down in the earth. Maybe this guy can explain to you how the climate on the surface could possibly affect their appearance?
Posted: 9/3/2003 5:54:00 PM

P: 9/3/2003 6:00:15 PM
Acclaim Rough Rock Total Posts: 26 Last Post: 9/9/2003 Member Since: 7/30/2003	Thanks LawGem, He also said that most ideal cut diamonds are from "cold" climate countries. The reason they are cut ideally so they can compete with average cut diamond from hot climate. Basically, he is saying that no one would buy these "cold" climate diamonds if they are not cut to ideal proportions.
Posted: 9/3/2003 6:00:15 PM

P: 9/3/2003 6:24:00 PM
NewYorker Cut Rock Total Posts: 249 Last Post: 10/17/2003 Member Since: 7/31/2003	I would never speak to that salesman again. What a load of c__p. Either he was told this and believes it himself which makes him very dumb, or he's thought of a strange way to try to lure people to buy from him. Tanya
Posted: 9/3/2003 6:24:00 PM

P: 9/3/2003 8:49:36 PM
DiamondExpert Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,243 Last Post: 6/20/2009 Member Since: 1/16/2003	What a load!!! Since diamonds were actually formed roughly between 100 million and 3 billion years ago in the bowels of the earth (as stated above) there were no countries or continents and I dare say the climate was very different then!! Gary www.diamondexpert.com
Posted: 9/3/2003 8:49:36 PM

P: 9/4/2003 12:44:14 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	WOW! If anyone collects 'strange diamond-talk' this is the one for the cover. I've heard loads of strange salesman talk, but this is something to behold. If you ever go to the dealer again, ask him for a discount for his chat and get an Ukrainian cut diamond. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 9/4/2003 12:44:14 AM

P: 9/4/2003 12:48:43 PM
Paul-Antwerp Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,902 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/3/2002	Hey, Then you should see our crop of this summer. We had a record summer with the highest average temperature since they kept data, that is since 1835. This of course is reflected in the quality of our diamonds. True collector's pieces, I should say. Truly, if you really want an exquisite diamond, you should definitely take one cut in Belgium in 2003. And this winter, we are going to cut in our greenhouse, just to be sure that you get the best possible quality. Live long, Paul Paul Slegers Infinity Diamonds www.CraftedByInfinity.com
Posted: 9/4/2003 12:48:43 PM

P: 9/4/2003 1:26:42 PM
NewYorker Cut Rock Total Posts: 249 Last Post: 10/17/2003 Member Since: 7/31/2003	Oh, I just thought that you should print this thread out once everyone responds and mail it to him. You don't have to give your name - just send it to him and he'll get the picture. He probably has told this line to others so he may not even know it's coming from you. Tanya
Posted: 9/4/2003 1:26:42 PM

P: 9/4/2003 3:16:16 PM
Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,874 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002	This one win's PriceScope's "BS Story of the Month" award. We need to make up an award like the Oscar, only portraying a bronzed pile of manure. Rich, Independent GG Appraiser Sarasota Gemological Laboratory
Posted: 9/4/2003 3:16:16 PM

P: 9/4/2003 6:54:40 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,567 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	The biggest hit in the budget jewellery world at present is 'Hot Diamonds' a British company selling little diamonds in Silver Actually as everyone has said, the diamonds came up via volcaonoes but from very few sources of diamonds - the continents drifted over them and wham-O. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 9/4/2003 6:54:40 PM

P: 6/17/2004 10:26:29 AM
Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000	Bump Pricescope
Posted: 6/17/2004 10:26:29 AM

P: 6/17/2004 10:37:21 AM
kevinng Cut Rock Total Posts: 398 Last Post: 3/1/2008 Member Since: 6/10/2004	Heh... I'm going to microwave my diamond. It's been in the ground too long... too cold.
Posted: 6/17/2004 10:37:21 AM

P: 6/17/2004 11:26:19 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	---------------- On 9/4/2003 12:48:43 PM Paul-Antwerp wrote: Hey, Then you should see our crop of this summer. We had a record summer with the highest average temperature since they kept data, that is since 1835. This of course is reflected in the quality of our diamonds. True collector's pieces, I should say. Truly, if you really want an exquisite diamond, you should definitely take one cut in Belgium in 2003. And this winter, we are going to cut in our greenhouse, just to be sure that you get the best possible quality. Live long, Paul---------------- BWAAHAAA HAA HAAAA!!! Thanks for the morning laugh! Still giggling. quaeritur
Posted: 6/17/2004 11:26:19 AM

P: 6/17/2004 11:54:03 AM
glitz&glam Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/13/2004 Member Since: 4/15/2004	That's the silliest thing we've ever heard. PLEASE don't buy from the vendor that told you that nonsense.
Posted: 6/17/2004 11:54:03 AM

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