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| P: 6/10/2008 9:44:56 AM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Just an addition as to why I don't care for this man. This was sent to me by a police officer in another state... respect? There isn't any. This photo by Officer Thomas Brennan shows the porta potties set up on the police memorial, with its flag still at half mast. PoliceLink May 30, 2008 PORTLAND, OR – Police officers in Portland, Oregon, are still waiting for an apology from Barack Obama after campaign staffers of his recent rally in Portland, Oregon, setup porta potties directly on top of the Portland Police Memorial, which honors the agency’s 25 fallen police officers. The Obama rally drew a crowd of over 75,000 people. Officer Thomas Brennan, who was working overtime at the rally, took a picture of the offending toilets, with the American flag still at half mast because of Police Officers Memorial Day, directly behind them. The local law enforcement memorial service had been held at the site only five days earlier. Despite a large amount of open areas in the vicinity, the campaign staffers claimed the toilets were placed on the memorial for safety reasons to accommodate wheelchair access. The Obama campaign has not responded to requests for an apology. ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 9:44:56 AM | |
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| P: 6/10/2008 10:19:47 AM | |
Starset Princess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,474 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2004 |
Yeah, I bet Mr. Obama said to his crew - screw it - put 'em right there. Who cares. But someone on his campaign made that very poor decision and upon investigation, he did apologize.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 10:19:47 AM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 11:05:19 AM | |
luckystar112 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,797 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 1/8/2007 |
Sounds like his team needs some common sense.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 11:05:19 AM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 11:13:41 AM | |
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MoonWater Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,158 Last Post: 2/27/2009 Member Since: 7/1/2007 |
Wow. A mistake was made, not by him, but some volunteers and staffers, and people want to hate HIM because of it. Makes perfect sense to me. It was extremely unfortunate and he apologized. I can not believe people would get enraged over this nearly two weeks after it happened and after he has apologized for it. Oh and LOL @ calling him an elitist. Also love that the same BS rumors are going around about him and his wife. God bless America.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 11:13:41 AM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 11:23:01 AM | |
Starset Princess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,474 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2004 |
Would people have been upset if the committee chose to put, oh I don't know, the media section on top of the memorial? or the information booth? In my opinion the ground immediately surrounding the memorial should have been left sacred. But are people more enraged because it was an apparatus for poop?
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 11:23:01 AM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 11:48:19 AM | |
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Ninama Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,039 Last Post: 11/6/2008 Member Since: 7/30/2007 |
Just as I'm certain it wasn't Obama, personally, who selected the careless placement of the crappers... it wasn't Obama, personally, who apologized. It isn't as if he didn't do it, but he did apologize. http://www.katu.com/news/local/19417924.html (video) PORTLAND, Ore. - Members of Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign have apologized for an incident that occurred at his recent campaign rally at Portland's Tom McCall Waterfront Park. Following the May 18 rally, the Portland Police Bureau was made aware that several portable toilets had been placed in the center of the police memorial at the park. A number of officers complained it was in poor taste and dishonored those that the memorial is dedicated to. After being notified of the incident, Obama campaign officials sent an apology letter to Portland Police Chief Rosie Sizer, and the Portland Police Association, calling it an unintentional error. _________________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 11:48:19 AM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 12:21:34 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
I didn't say it was HIM. However.. common sense would dictate that an apology was certainly in order by him and/or his staff. *eta ~ I understand they apologized post the rally, but what kind of mental moron would do such a thing.. imagine for a moment if another candidate did something to that affect to oh say.. a MLK memorial.. imagine the outrage.. I would be among the angered. Thank you for being sensitive to my feelings on the reason I posted this being my husband is law enforcement.. the reason? Lack of tact, class, respect.. ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 12:21:34 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 12:33:17 PM | |
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Ninama Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,039 Last Post: 11/6/2008 Member Since: 7/30/2007 |
SDL... I think there may be some confusion. My post was more directed at those who maintained that it wasn't Obama's fault, but that Obama apologized. I understand that during a campaign a candidate's name often means the candidates team, but if attention is going to be paid to the details of wording and who did what, it should be consistent. ETA: I think we can all agree that any memorial is a poor place to set up the Andy Gumps. At least I hope we can! _________________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 12:33:17 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 12:45:01 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
*eta~ I could understand saying, you know, I am sensitive to your feelings and I can understand how you might feel this is bad, but in case you weren’t aware this apology was given and posted it as Ninama did. That kind of reply I can appreciate and thank you for showing it. I sent it on to the officer who provided me with this initial information. Oh my stars, I am so staying out of the political thread like I said I would. I was just so hurt and angry at this.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 12:45:01 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 12:49:52 PM | |
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Ninama Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,039 Last Post: 11/6/2008 Member Since: 7/30/2007 |
There are some very heated words and hurt feelings on a LOT of message boards right now... seems to crop up on a 4-year cycle!
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 12:49:52 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM | |
Starset Princess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,474 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2004 |
Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM | |
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LAJennifer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,168 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 3/2/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. _____________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:18:37 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. So in my anger towards the complete disrespect of fallen law enforcement officers, I blamed him, but his staff I realize is ultimately to blame. Shame on me. Actually, I dislike him for a variety of other reasons I simply won't post. And the elitist comments came from the police officer who sent the story, they weren't my own words.Politics in general give people plenty to be emotional about. I believe I shall stick to the SMTR thread..
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:18:37 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:23:31 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,876 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
Date: 6/10/2008 1:18:37 PM Author: SanDiegoLady I believe I shall stick to the SMTR thread.. ![]() I do believe that is the one thread where problems are not usually seen or talked about. Show Me The Ring-every Pricescoper's happy place _______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:23:31 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:27:01 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 1:23:31 PM Author: FrekeChild Date: 6/10/2008 1:18:37 PM Author: SanDiegoLady I believe I shall stick to the SMTR thread.. ![]() I do believe that is the one thread where problems are not usually seen or talked about. Show Me The Ring-every Pricescoper's happy place I'd give you a hug.. but.. the filters at work won't let me place the emotie. So... instead.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:27:01 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:33:36 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,876 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
I like the heart just as much. (I haven't ever used any of the cool emoticons. I should work on that.)
_______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:33:36 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM | |
Starset Princess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,474 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2004 |
Date: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. I am aware of which part is the email only. However, it was not omitted from her cut and paste job in order to post the email here. It is part of her post.
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| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 1:47:10 PM | |
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LAJennifer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,168 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 3/2/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM Author: Starset Princess Date: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. I am aware of which part is the email only. However, it was not omitted from her cut and paste job in order to post the email here. It is part of her post. Still, they aren't her words. They are the words of someone who personally felt disprespected by the Obama camp. While I don't agree with what he said - I believe he has the right to feel the way he feels and SDL has a right to post it. I think we all know SDL well enough to know that such colorful language isn't her style. _____________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 1:47:10 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 2:03:37 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,876 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
It didn't have "Oh my STARS!" in it. (BTW, I just love reading that. It makes me happy.)
_______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 2:03:37 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 2:12:03 PM | |
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LAJennifer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,168 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 3/2/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 2:03:37 PM Author: FrekeChild It didn't have 'Oh my STARS!' in it. (BTW, I just love reading that. It makes me happy.) Me too. _____________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 2:12:03 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 2:20:51 PM | |
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Ninama Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,039 Last Post: 11/6/2008 Member Since: 7/30/2007 |
Me three. ![]() ![]() _________________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 2:20:51 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 2:56:02 PM | |
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MoonWater Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,158 Last Post: 2/27/2009 Member Since: 7/1/2007 |
Date: 6/10/2008 1:47:10 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM Author: Starset Princess Date: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. I am aware of which part is the email only. However, it was not omitted from her cut and paste job in order to post the email here. It is part of her post. Still, they aren't her words. They are the words of someone who personally felt disprespected by the Obama camp. While I don't agree with what he said - I believe he has the right to feel the way he feels and SDL has a right to post it. I think we all know SDL well enough to know that such colorful language isn't her style. I think SDL is very nice and I certainly knew those weren't her words. However, they were posted here so I responded to it. Just as SDL and the officer had a right to feel the way they did, so too do the rest of us. It's a two way street. For the record, had it been an MLK memorial and the people that made the mistake apologized, I personally would not have been offended. But that's just me. Also for the record, just because I disagree with folks on politics doesn't mean I don't like the person anymore. So I hope no one is taking these discussions (heated or not) *that* seriously. In the end, everyone has awesome jewels
............... "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 2:56:02 PM | |
| P: 6/10/2008 3:17:20 PM | |
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LAJennifer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,168 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 3/2/2005 |
Date: 6/10/2008 2:56:02 PM And yours is one of my personal favorites.
Author: MoonWater Date: 6/10/2008 1:47:10 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM Author: Starset Princess Date: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. I am aware of which part is the email only. However, it was not omitted from her cut and paste job in order to post the email here. It is part of her post. Still, they aren't her words. They are the words of someone who personally felt disprespected by the Obama camp. While I don't agree with what he said - I believe he has the right to feel the way he feels and SDL has a right to post it. I think we all know SDL well enough to know that such colorful language isn't her style. I think SDL is very nice and I certainly knew those weren't her words. However, they were posted here so I responded to it. Just as SDL and the officer had a right to feel the way they did, so too do the rest of us. It's a two way street. For the record, had it been an MLK memorial and the people that made the mistake apologized, I personally would not have been offended. But that's just me. Also for the record, just because I disagree with folks on politics doesn't mean I don't like the person anymore. So I hope no one is taking these discussions (heated or not) *that* seriously. In the end, everyone has awesome jewels ![]() _____________________________ |
| Posted: 6/10/2008 3:17:20 PM | |
| P: 6/11/2008 4:11:07 PM | |
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MoonWater Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,158 Last Post: 2/27/2009 Member Since: 7/1/2007 |
Date: 6/10/2008 3:17:20 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 2:56:02 PM And yours is one of my personal favorites.Author: MoonWater Date: 6/10/2008 1:47:10 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 1:37:09 PM Author: Starset Princess Date: 6/10/2008 1:12:48 PM Author: LAJennifer Date: 6/10/2008 12:54:26 PM Author: Starset Princess Wait a minute. You said this is why I don't like this man and then posted a bit about him being a naïve little anti-military, anti-law enforcement, elitist twit and his America-hating wife. You sure gave people plenty to get emotional about... And we responded with, it shouldn't have happened but don't dislike THE MAN for it. Blame the idiots who organized the event. I wish someone had noticed before the whole rally took place. I guess I was unaware your husband is in law enforcement. I understand why this upsets you and I'm sorry. Hi Starset - those were not her words - her original post is in pink. What you are referencing above is what was forwarded to her by a police officer in another state. I am aware of which part is the email only. However, it was not omitted from her cut and paste job in order to post the email here. It is part of her post. Still, they aren't her words. They are the words of someone who personally felt disprespected by the Obama camp. While I don't agree with what he said - I believe he has the right to feel the way he feels and SDL has a right to post it. I think we all know SDL well enough to know that such colorful language isn't her style. I think SDL is very nice and I certainly knew those weren't her words. However, they were posted here so I responded to it. Just as SDL and the officer had a right to feel the way they did, so too do the rest of us. It's a two way street. For the record, had it been an MLK memorial and the people that made the mistake apologized, I personally would not have been offended. But that's just me. Also for the record, just because I disagree with folks on politics doesn't mean I don't like the person anymore. So I hope no one is taking these discussions (heated or not) *that* seriously. In the end, everyone has awesome jewels ![]() Thank ya m'am!
............... "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." |
| Posted: 6/11/2008 4:11:07 PM | |
| P: 6/12/2008 7:06:12 PM | |
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HollyS Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,098 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 7/18/2007 |
I agree SDL; he's just one gigantic twit of an a-hole, whether he's personally responsible for this particular fiasco, or not. I dislike McCain; but I'm praying for a landslide that will knock the BamaRama back into relative obscurity. 'Cause that's where his butt belongs. And nobody needs to send me any 'shame on you' posts about my dislike of the guy. We're all entitled to our opinion. _____________________________ |
| Posted: 6/12/2008 7:06:12 PM | |
| P: 6/12/2008 8:22:34 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Holly dear, next time, please tell us how you really feel.
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| Posted: 6/12/2008 8:22:34 PM | |
| P: 6/12/2008 8:24:06 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,876 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
Shame on you Holly for having your own opinion! Heh heh heh...
_______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 6/12/2008 8:24:06 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
*snicker*
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| Posted: 6/12/2008 8:32:11 PM | |
| P: 6/12/2008 10:22:00 PM | |
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miraclesrule Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,506 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 3/29/2008 |
Yeah, it was pretty thoughtless about the memorial site, but on the flip side, it was pretty thoughtfull that they were considering the access for disabled people at the rally. I empathize with anyone who is "stuck between a rock and hard place" or a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. I am more apt to be disappointed in the government officials who probably dictated to the campaign the site that they would allow for the rally to occur. There are more people than the campaign who are responsible for this debacle. However, I am also a huge fan of forgiveness. I have a hard time believing that anyone would knowingly, willingly, intentionally place porta potties on a memorial site, whether that site is the grave of a police officer or any other child of the universe. But then again, foresight is far more rare than hindsight.
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| P: 6/16/2008 10:42:46 PM | |
surfgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,438 Last Post: 5/19/2009 Member Since: 4/5/2007 |
SDL, can I ask you something (and I'm asking sincerely, because it's something I dont get)? IIRC, based on what you've said in past posts, you pretty much loathe Bush, is that correct? And I know I've seen plenty of posts from you about how much you also cannot stand Arnold Schwarzenegger, is that also correct? And since you have said before that you are quite conservative, I'm guessing that you voted for both, twice, because they represented the more conservative party, is that correct or am I mistaken? The reason I ask is because you dont seem to like the people you usually vote for, yet you seem to post these "hate monger" posts that are always running around the internet and most of the time, they are rumors and aren't representative of reality. What I'm trying to say is, if your usual voting choices aren't making you happy and you're not pleased with how the people you vote into office are performing, then why always bag on the other party's candidates? You've done this before and honestly, it just baffles me because I know I've read plenty of posts from you about your serious dissatisfaction with your President and Governor. So why not be less quick to believe these internet rumors next time you see one, and research whether or not it's true? I'm not trying to be antagonistic towards you, I'm just trying to point out that maybe you might try not always jumping to negative conclusions about the "other side", especially since your picks dont seem to be satisfying you either. You know?
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| Posted: 6/16/2008 10:42:46 PM | |
| P: 6/17/2008 9:53:57 AM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,203 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 6/16/2008 10:42:46 PM Author: surfgirl SDL, can I ask you something (and I'm asking sincerely, because it's something I dont get)? IIRC, based on what you've said in past posts, you pretty much loathe Bush, is that correct? And I know I've seen plenty of posts from you about how much you also cannot stand Arnold Schwarzenegger, is that also correct? And since you have said before that you are quite conservative, I'm guessing that you voted for both, twice, because they represented the more conservative party, is that correct or am I mistaken? The reason I ask is because you dont seem to like the people you usually vote for, yet you seem to post these 'hate monger' posts that are always running around the internet and most of the time, they are rumors and aren't representative of reality. What I'm trying to say is, if your usual voting choices aren't making you happy and you're not pleased with how the people you vote into office are performing, then why always bag on the other party's candidates? You've done this before and honestly, it just baffles me because I know I've read plenty of posts from you about your serious dissatisfaction with your President and Governor. So why not be less quick to believe these internet rumors next time you see one, and research whether or not it's true? I'm not trying to be antagonistic towards you, I'm just trying to point out that maybe you might try not always jumping to negative conclusions about the 'other side', especially since your picks dont seem to be satisfying you either. You know? I don't loathe Bush, I don't agree with him on everything and I certainly don't always agree OR disagree with Arnie. I'm not a liberal and Arnie really is and I have to say in a lot of things, so is Bush. I don't "always" bag other candidates, I have stated my opinions plenty about my own party's representatives. I do believe I vote for the "lesser of two evils". I don't recall having said anything about Arnie on a regular basis, either. I have my opinions and like you or anyone else here, I believe I'm "allowed" to voice them, correct? I don't agree with most liberal decisions, and I think I'm allowed to believe that way. Don't you? And my voting record does not reflect as you might believe, so please do not jump to conclusions about that. The fact is, I'm very conservative and that's the way I lean. Period. My "picks" satisfy me for the most part just fine. I don't have to agree with every last decision they make. But I take the good with the bad. No one is perfect, with the exception of Jesus Christ. Don't judge ALL my beliefs or opinions by the very small amount I add here, I have quite a lot more to say- and with restraint don't submit it here. If you want to know my thoughts on a more profound level, I'd guess you'd need to know me in person. There are plenty of times I don't have time in my day to submit every last thought here. Oddly enough- I'm actually rather offended, I don't think I've ever seen this posed to anyone else throughout the threads who have strong opinions as well. Try getting to know someone in person before you start judging them politically from a couple handfuls of posts on a thread. I believe you will find I'm not the person you have decided I am here. ![]() ![]() |
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