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P: 6/5/2008 4:53:25 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Hey, I've been reading all the valuable information on this site for some time and with the help of Brian the Cutter and Sheerah from whiteflash we've narrowed it down to 2 stones. Both stones are within $42.00 of each other. I've seen a few unmounted stones locally and don't think I'm color sensitive. My mind tells me to go with the safe VS1 stone but the other stone is .2 larger. Both are eye clean. I just can't decide. Any input would be appreciated. 1st Stone - Eye Clean 3-5 inches as per whiteflash This is the one that is the safe bet in my opinion. Its H&A ACA, VS1, H, and 0.912 in size. $5533.00 http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-912907.htm# 2nd Stone - Eye Clean 3-5 inches as per whiteflash This is the one that is not as much a safe bet as the first one. Its H&A ACA, SI1, J, 1.137 in size. $5575.00 http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-636630.htm# All the info would be greatly appreciated
Posted: 6/5/2008 4:53:25 PM

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P: 6/5/2008 4:54:34 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,467 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Both look great, but only you can decide whether color or size is more important to you and your girl. I wouldn't worry about the SI1 if WF says it's eyeclean, they don't lie!
Posted: 6/5/2008 4:54:34 PM

P: 6/5/2008 5:10:36 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Are you the lady who will wear it (hard to tell by your post, but you say "you" don't think you're sensitive)? If so, and you don't think you'll mind the color, go for the bigger one. It seems by your post the inclusions on it are no more visable than the VS1. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 6/5/2008 5:10:36 PM

P: 6/5/2008 5:14:19 PM
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004	HI: Go with "your safe" bet since you will be wearing it! cheers--Sharon "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off".
Posted: 6/5/2008 5:14:19 PM

P: 6/5/2008 5:49:18 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	I'm the guy getting it for the girl :P
Posted: 6/5/2008 5:49:18 PM

P: 6/5/2008 5:52:33 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 6/5/2008 5:49:18 PM Author: Slasher99 I'm the guy getting it for the girl :P Ok. Then you need to know if the color will bother the girl, she's the one who will stare at it all the time. If you are unsure, and/or can't find out, be safe and go wiith the H. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 6/5/2008 5:52:33 PM

P: 6/5/2008 6:37:42 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Maybe this will Help.... They took this shot for me.
Posted: 6/5/2008 6:37:42 PM

P: 6/5/2008 6:39:16 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	http://www3.telus.net/idenny1/DI40X_AGS-9606604,AGS-9407201.jpg
Posted: 6/5/2008 6:39:16 PM

P: 6/5/2008 7:17:47 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	The link didn't work for me, but it doesn't really matter. Color preference is very personal. No one can say definitively what another might like/see/tolerate. So again, unless you can find out, go with the H. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:17:47 PM

P: 6/5/2008 7:26:28 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Sorry Try this....
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:26:28 PM

P: 6/5/2008 7:47:57 PM
pixley Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,534 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 11/12/2007	Oooh, that's a tough one since they both look beautiful. I am very color sensitive and like higher clairty stones, which draws me towards the H, but I would also want to break the 1 carat mark if I lived in a city where 1 carat was fairly customary. Is there any way of determining whether she's color sensitive? Also, which part of the world do you live in and what's her ring size? Those answers might help us figure out which one is better suited for her.
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:47:57 PM

P: 6/5/2008 7:58:22 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	I'd probably compromise and try for a 1.0 I VS2. That would probably be the limit of my personal comfort level. I have an H VS1, so I know I'd like that one, but it is quite a bit smaller than the other one. And here ya go!!! http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906719.htm ($5876. with wire and Pricescope discounts) ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:58:22 PM

P: 6/5/2008 8:32:22 PM
cwj Cut Rock Total Posts: 366 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 2/18/2008	If WF said they are eyeclean I would trust them. IMO the ? would be how she feels about the color. I would love the larger stone, the J does not worry me as long as its the ACA! But I have an I e/r ring and a J pendant. So color isn't a big deal to me.
Posted: 6/5/2008 8:32:22 PM

P: 6/5/2008 8:32:40 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Her Rings size is 4.5 and we live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. As far as color sensitive goes I don't think she is sensitive. We did look at some loose diamonds locally 1 being a .82, Si1, F vs. .84, Si1, H and we could only tell the difference when they where face down on white paper. Face up we could not notice the color difference. I know J is lower but i was hope the fact that its a H&A ACA would make the J color seem negligible. I think as long as I cannot tell the color difference between the centre diamond and the side stones it should be fine. Its going to be mounted in a ring similar to this....
Posted: 6/5/2008 8:32:40 PM

P: 6/5/2008 9:01:02 PM
cwj Cut Rock Total Posts: 366 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 2/18/2008	Date: 6/5/2008 8:32:40 PM Author: Slasher99 Her Rings size is 4.5 and we live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. As far as color sensitive goes I don't think she is sensitive. We did look at some loose diamonds locally 1 being a .82, Si1, F vs. .84, Si1, H and we could only tell the difference when they where face down on white paper. Face up we could not notice the color difference. I know J is lower but i was hope the fact that its a H&A ACA would make the J color seem negligible. I think as long as I cannot tell the color difference between the centre diamond and the side stones it should be fine. Its going to be mounted in a ring similar to this.... If shes not color sensitive, my vote would be the larger stone , all the way, 100%!! The ACA H&A is beautiful! Oh by the way, mine is a J H&A ACA- SI2, I can't see anything in it!
Posted: 6/5/2008 9:01:02 PM

P: 6/5/2008 9:25:07 PM
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004	Date: 6/5/2008 8:32:40 PM Author: Slasher99 Her Rings size is 4.5 and we live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. HI: Wow--I grew up there. cheers--Sharon "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off".
Posted: 6/5/2008 9:25:07 PM

P: 6/6/2008 1:35:50 AM
pixley Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,534 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 11/12/2007	Ah, nice. Since she's a 4.5, they'll both look great on her. I'm an American living in BC, and don't know what the avg. ring size is in Edmonton, but here on Vancouver Island, 1 carat seems to be a rarity - most are less than. Can you get to a Birks or a Tiffany's to check out a J color in natural light (away from their halogen lights). If you and she can handle a J from one of those stores, then go for the ACA J! If the J's don't work, I really like Diamondseeker2006's suggestion to go to a 1 carat I/VS2.
Posted: 6/6/2008 1:35:50 AM

P: 6/6/2008 5:39:02 AM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Thx for the info so far guys/gals....
Posted: 6/6/2008 5:39:02 AM

P: 6/6/2008 6:23:06 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	WF have an inspection period also, so if the larger one is verified eyeclean, then a superbly cut I colour like that should look great! You could always return it in the unlikely event you weren't pleased. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 6/6/2008 6:23:06 AM

P: 6/6/2008 5:32:19 PM
Slasher99 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/12/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	Thanks for all the help!!!! I ended up going with the H&A ACA, .912, H, Vs1. It will be mounted in a custom setting like the one pictured above. Setting will have 10 ACA, F-G, VS and 0.50CTW. Total wieght being 1.4CTW. Shaun
Posted: 6/6/2008 5:32:19 PM

P: 6/6/2008 7:08:24 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	That's going to be one lovely ring! We'd love to see it finished. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 6/6/2008 7:08:24 PM

P: 6/6/2008 11:25:18 PM
pixley Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,534 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 11/12/2007	Beautiful! I am always so impressed by the WF rings I see on this forum! She's going to love it!
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:25:18 PM

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