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P: 6/5/2008 12:43:54 PM
jmess03 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 6/5/2008 Member Since: 10/29/2007	Hello all, I'm very new to this and need all the help i can get. As i want to pick out the most beautiful diamond ever for my girlfriend. I have about $5,000 to spend on the diamond as i am designing the setting myself. I am looking for a .85-1.15 ct. round diamond. Like i said i'm new to this so i'm not overly sure what i should be looking for and what is good and what to stay away from. If you have any words of advice or diamonds to look at please help, i greatly appreciate it and i'm sure my girlfriend will too!! Thanks, Jack');" alt="Insert smilie " src="http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/20.gif" border=0>
Posted: 6/5/2008 12:43:54 PM

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P: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM
Kayce Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 6/10/2008 Member Since: 6/5/2008	We recommend starting at I color and SI1 clarity for round brilliant diamonds. It will appear very bright and white and as long as the diamond is eye clean there is not value added by going higher in clarity. The depth should be between 59-62.5% and the table between 52-59%. A typical 1 carat round diamond should measure 6.5 millimeters. If the diamond is very deep it might weigh 1 carat but actually appear smaller. We also don't recommend diamonds with medium or strong blue fluourscence. They can make the diamond appear milky in the sunlight and glow a blue color under fluorescence lighting. To make sure that you are getting the maximum fire and sparkle from the diamond we always run the Halloway Cut Analysis on round diamonds. You want the reading to be in the Very Good to Excellent range. The lower the number the better. Make sure that the diamonds you are looking at are GIA certified diamonds. A jeweler can tell you whatever they want as far as the specs of the diamond unless it is certified and you actually see the certification. Kayce Turner Diamond Source of Virginia Richmond, Virginia
Posted: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM

P: 6/5/2008 1:02:26 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM Author: Kayce We recommend starting at I color and SI1 clarity for round brilliant diamonds. It will appear very bright and white and as long as the diamond is eye clean there is not value added by going higher in clarity. The depth should be between 59-62.5% and the table between 52-59%. A typical 1 carat round diamond should measure 6.5 millimeters. If the diamond is very deep it might weigh 1 carat but actually appear smaller. We also don't recommend diamonds with medium or strong blue fluourscence. They can make the diamond appear milky in the sunlight and glow a blue color under fluorescence lighting. To make sure that you are getting the maximum fire and sparkle from the diamond we always run the Halloway Cut Analysis on round diamonds. You want the reading to be in the Very Good to Excellent range. The lower the number the better. Make sure that the diamonds you are looking at are GIA certified diamonds. A jeweler can tell you whatever they want as far as the specs of the diamond unless it is certified and you actually see the certification. Welcome to Pricescope! Actually it isn't the case with the HCA that the lower the number, the better the diamond will look or perform, that isn't how the HCA works. It is used to eliminate poorer performers rather than to select stones. Also in some cases, diamonds which score over 2 can be well worth considering if there is additional cut info available such as Idealscope etc. Also concerning fluorescence, it is generally considered wise to evaluate on a stone by stone basis, and that adverse effects from even strong blue are rare, such as milkiness or the diamond looking cloudy. There are quite a few PSers here who actually enjoy the bluish glow that can be seen in some diamonds in certain lights, so it does have it's fans! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 6/5/2008 1:02:26 PM

P: 6/5/2008 1:10:10 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 6/5/2008 12:43:54 PM Author:jmess03 Hello all, I'm very new to this and need all the help i can get. As i want to pick out the most beautiful diamond ever for my girlfriend. I have about $5,000 to spend on the diamond as i am designing the setting myself. I am looking for a .85-1.15 ct. round diamond. Like i said i'm new to this so i'm not overly sure what i should be looking for and what is good and what to stay away from. If you have any words of advice or diamonds to look at please help, i greatly appreciate it and i'm sure my girlfriend will too!! Thanks, Jack');' alt='Insert smilie ' src='http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/20.gif' border=0> Hi Jmess! I would suggest looking at vendors who have in house diamonds, and stick to AGS0 cut grade and GIA Excellent, as this might help you to find a pretty diamond more easily. Popular vendors are - www.winkjones.com www.goodoldgold.com www.whiteflash.com www.jamesallen.com Make cut a very high priority, as it is this which gives a diamond it's beauty. Clarity as Kayce mentions, unless you want to go higher, SI1 could be a good choice if verified eyeclean to your specifications by a trusted vendor. Colour...Unless you want D or E, then some find a good middleground can be F G or H - these will still look very white - also an I colour could broaden the options if needed. Here is an example of what you could get. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-684394.htm# http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4088/ Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 6/5/2008 1:10:10 PM

P: 6/5/2008 2:55:29 PM
Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,325 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004	Date: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM Author: Kayce To make sure that you are getting the maximum fire and sparkle from the diamond we always run the Halloway Cut Analysis on round diamonds. Well...maybe not always... Date: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM Author: Kayce The lower the number the better. Make sure that the diamonds you are looking at are GIA certified diamonds. Yes...per Lorelei...you'll want to back up on both of those. Or...if you have other data on AGS...you may want to provide your reference points. There is, for example, some very good technology to cipher color to color...Spectra2000 (?). The main point here, if I may...is that you now needn't invest in sarin, ogi, or good heavens, helium...to double check GIA data for a more conservative read...now that they provide angle measures. But...since you ARE needing to rely on their info, as a virtual diamond vendor, I'd encourage you to know degrees of error GIA employs. Another reason AGS are more conservative, and preferred, is that they don't round data. So...you need to be less concerned for not having invested in that measuring technology. Hope you'll stick around. Careful, though, retreiving old posts. People won't know the context. Regards, Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. ____________ If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick! however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous
Posted: 6/5/2008 2:55:29 PM

P: 6/5/2008 4:34:34 PM
Allison D. Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,724 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/1/2008	You've received some great input so far; I'd just add that you should also consider AGS graded stones. AGS actually has a slight edge in cut grading stringency, so you can't go wrong. Also, I'd not worry about blue fluorescence in a stone. Milky or oily appearance would only been seen in very strong blues, and even then very seldom. Not remotely anything to be worried about....less than a few percent of even VSB stones run into this milky/oily territory. Good luck in your search! Allison Dewey...."Alj" Consumer Relations, Whiteflash **the artist formerly known as aljdewey**
Posted: 6/5/2008 4:34:34 PM

P: 6/5/2008 7:18:33 PM
purrfectpear Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,702 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 3/31/2008	Date: 6/5/2008 12:56:45 PM Author: Kayce We recommend starting at I color and SI1 clarity for round brilliant diamonds. It will appear very bright and white and as long as the diamond is eye clean there is not value added by going higher in clarity. The depth should be between 59-62.5% and the table between 52-59%. A typical 1 carat round diamond should measure 6.5 millimeters. If the diamond is very deep it might weigh 1 carat but actually appear smaller. We also don't recommend diamonds with medium or strong blue fluourscence. They can make the diamond appear milky in the sunlight and glow a blue color under fluorescence lighting. To make sure that you are getting the maximum fire and sparkle from the diamond we always run the Halloway Cut Analysis on round diamonds. You want the reading to be in the Very Good to Excellent range. The lower the number the better. Make sure that the diamonds you are looking at are GIA certified diamonds. A jeweler can tell you whatever they want as far as the specs of the diamond unless it is certified and you actually see the certification. Are we going to go on every day about the "opinion" of Diamond Source of Virginia reps (there are two of you posting now) regarding flourescence? You are completely wrong about the HCA. The lowest number is not an indicator of better (ie. .6 being "better" than 1.8). Further, few PS'rs would think an AGS report was less valuable or accurate than GIA. Although some refer to a GIA diamond as certified, I do not believe that GIA actually certifies. They provide a diamond grading report. Please spend some time here learning on PS before you dive in with opinions that are not fact, or at least make it clear that it is strictly your own personal bias. "Style is knowing who you are, what you want to say and not giving a damn." -Gore Vidal
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:18:33 PM

P: 6/5/2008 10:52:46 PM
jmess03 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 6/5/2008 Member Since: 10/29/2007	Thank you all for your help. I have done some research and wondering which diamond is preferred. http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Compare_Diamonds.aspx?idnos=395210,978312,978310
Posted: 6/5/2008 10:52:46 PM

P: 6/5/2008 10:58:20 PM
jmess03 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 6/5/2008 Member Since: 10/29/2007	More options to go with the other two. Yes they differ in prices but i'm reaching for advice. Thanks http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4416/ http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3682/
Posted: 6/5/2008 10:58:20 PM

P: 6/5/2008 11:09:15 PM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	Welcome jmess03 -- WOW you picked some serious beauties there! They all look fabulous -- personally I would want to maximize size so I would probably go with the GOG H/SI stone. That said, the WF E stones (I think the first and third in the comparison) are just unbelievably crisp -- nice fat & sharp arrows. I think anyone would love to have one of those stones. Simply gorgeous. What's more important to YOU? High color or size? Good luck with your choice I don't think you could go wrong with any of them! 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 6/5/2008 11:09:15 PM

P: 6/5/2008 11:29:02 PM
Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,325 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004	At $5124 wire priced...I'd at least consider this one. Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. ____________ If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick! however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous
Posted: 6/5/2008 11:29:02 PM

P: 6/5/2008 11:36:39 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,468 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	jmess, all your options look great. If your girl is at ALL into size, she'll probably appreciate receiving the one carat stone. If you know she prefers color over size, then one of the smaller higher color stones would be better. But really, an H stone that is an ideal cut will be stunning and I doubt anyone but the most color sensitive people would notice any color at all.
Posted: 6/5/2008 11:36:39 PM

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