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| P: 5/23/2008 5:08:14 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
(Help, please??) His area of interest is specifically fine Italian cuisine. Can anyone suggest restaurants in either Chicago or Seattle that might give an up and comer an internship?? Thanks!! ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 5:08:14 PM | |
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| P: 5/23/2008 5:43:29 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
No clue SDL. I might be able to contact some friends of mine that might have a better idea. What school is he going to? ETA: Why just Seattle or Chicago? _______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 5:43:29 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 5:59:02 PM | |
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Independent Gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,471 Last Post: 1/3/2009 Member Since: 11/12/2006 |
Hey SDL, how about getting him a copy of Zagat guide to Chicago restaurants and suggesting that he go bang on doors? If I were him, that's what I'd do!
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| Posted: 5/23/2008 5:59:02 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 5:59:20 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2008 5:43:29 PM Author: FrekeChild No clue SDL. I might be able to contact some friends of mine that might have a better idea. What school is he going to? ETA: Why just Seattle or Chicago? Well, the people he wanted to go to here in SD just didn't get back to him in time, he was planning to fly out but couldn't afford to fly out on his very very limited budget at the last second. He attends Kendall Culinary in Chicago and Seattle is near where his Dad lives. ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 5:59:20 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 6:02:19 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2008 5:59:02 PM Author: Independent Gal Hey SDL, how about getting him a copy of Zagat guide to Chicago restaurants and suggesting that he go bang on doors? If I were him, that's what I'd do! There's a couple places in Chicago he's looking into. :) I'll suggest the Zagat guide. This kid- he's got the most amazing charisma, he could sell ice to the eskimos.. he's got the makings of being on the Food Network I swear, lol ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 6:02:19 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 6:09:50 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
No where else in Cali then? I have friends all over in Cali...Napa would be awesome for him. Texting a friend as we speak (type) see who he knows... (Said friend works here)
_______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 6:09:50 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 6:17:04 PM | |
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Ice Princess Cristy Cut Rock Total Posts: 152 Last Post: 6/3/2008 Member Since: 4/18/2008 |
Is a culinary internship one you have to ask to study under someone then? I know for many other fields there are often listings of internship sites or places accepting interns. I know that in phx/scottsdale there is a culinary school and most of those folks seem to stick around the area.... not sure if the school is contracted with places and that's why. Maybe there is someone at his school he could ask? That's wonderful BTW.... you should be proud I'll bet holiday dinners just get better and better
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| Posted: 5/23/2008 6:17:04 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 6:28:42 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
You have to go and work in a restaurant (usually starting out doing prep work) and as you prove yourself, you get to move higher in the ranks. Saute is usually as high as you can go (in a way). It's very different from cooking at school because you're cooking for paying customers, instead of fellow students (who are also paying customers, but in a different sense.) In my experience the school had a list of restaurants all over the world that would accept an extern (/intern) from our school. We were told that we needed to start looking for externship sites at least 6 months in advance. I did, and I didn't get in at any of my top places, but I did eventually get accepted to extern at the Arizona Biltmore, but decided to withdraw from the school instead. It was a scary process, and I didn't get accepted until about two months before I would have had to leave. I applied in Las Vegas, Cali, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, New York and Connecticut, but it was a different situation because as a baking student we had far fewer choices than the culinary students. Usually the school has to approve of the restaurant (or hotel, resort, etc.) before the student goes there... _______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/23/2008 6:28:42 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2008 7:57:52 PM | |
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MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,831 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003 |
Did you check yelp.com? There are lots of reviews there and maybe that will help guide your son to a resturant. I live nearby Seattle, but do not eat Italian food so I cannot think of any place. Sorry!
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| Posted: 5/23/2008 7:57:52 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2008 7:32:58 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2008 6:09:50 PM Author: FrekeChild No where else in Cali then? I have friends all over in Cali...Napa would be awesome for him. Texting a friend as we speak (type) see who he knows... (Said friend works here) The only reason he was looking here is because he would be staying with us and could trolley downtown. The place he was looking was an "approved" restaurant because their recipes are 85% scratch recipes. ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/24/2008 7:32:58 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2008 7:36:32 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2008 6:17:04 PM Author: Ice Princess Cristy Is a culinary internship one you have to ask to study under someone then? I know for many other fields there are often listings of internship sites or places accepting interns. I know that in phx/scottsdale there is a culinary school and most of those folks seem to stick around the area.... not sure if the school is contracted with places and that's why. Maybe there is someone at his school he could ask? That's wonderful BTW.... you should be proud I'll bet holiday dinners just get better and better![]() Yes, it has to be approved by the school. He actually looked into that school in Scottsdale because its just down the road from where my daughter lives. He's been working with his counselor for places, but asked if I knew anywhere else that he could take back to his counselor to be approved. He's an amazing kiddo.. pretty soon he'll out-cook me! ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/24/2008 7:36:32 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2008 7:39:41 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2008 6:28:42 PM Author: FrekeChild You have to go and work in a restaurant (usually starting out doing prep work) and as you prove yourself, you get to move higher in the ranks. Saute is usually as high as you can go (in a way). It's very different from cooking at school because you're cooking for paying customers, instead of fellow students (who are also paying customers, but in a different sense.) In my experience the school had a list of restaurants all over the world that would accept an extern (/intern) from our school. We were told that we needed to start looking for externship sites at least 6 months in advance. I did, and I didn't get in at any of my top places, but I did eventually get accepted to extern at the Arizona Biltmore, but decided to withdraw from the school instead. It was a scary process, and I didn't get accepted until about two months before I would have had to leave. I applied in Las Vegas, Cali, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, New York and Connecticut, but it was a different situation because as a baking student we had far fewer choices than the culinary students. Usually the school has to approve of the restaurant (or hotel, resort, etc.) before the student goes there... Yes, he expect this. But he's got 3 more years before he gets his bachelor degree. The internship is part of his schooling.. sooner or later he'll be doing the prep work on a regular basis but right now, he is in classes from 5:30am to 5:30pm not including some weekend classes, he's a busy guy!!! ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/24/2008 7:39:41 PM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 2:11:18 AM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
Date: 5/24/2008 7:39:41 PM Author: SanDiegoLady Date: 5/23/2008 6:28:42 PM Author: FrekeChild You have to go and work in a restaurant (usually starting out doing prep work) and as you prove yourself, you get to move higher in the ranks. Saute is usually as high as you can go (in a way). It's very different from cooking at school because you're cooking for paying customers, instead of fellow students (who are also paying customers, but in a different sense.) In my experience the school had a list of restaurants all over the world that would accept an extern (/intern) from our school. We were told that we needed to start looking for externship sites at least 6 months in advance. I did, and I didn't get in at any of my top places, but I did eventually get accepted to extern at the Arizona Biltmore, but decided to withdraw from the school instead. It was a scary process, and I didn't get accepted until about two months before I would have had to leave. I applied in Las Vegas, Cali, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, New York and Connecticut, but it was a different situation because as a baking student we had far fewer choices than the culinary students. Usually the school has to approve of the restaurant (or hotel, resort, etc.) before the student goes there... Yes, he expect this. But he's got 3 more years before he gets his bachelor degree. The internship is part of his schooling.. sooner or later he'll be doing the prep work on a regular basis but right now, he is in classes from 5:30am to 5:30pm not including some weekend classes, he's a busy guy!!! Lol, I was trying to explain the culinary extern/internship process. Our externship was after the first two terms of school for the both the Bachelors and the Associates. It was all the same process, the Bachelors students just went on for two more years afterwards and had to take classes like French or Italian, Accounting, Controlling Costs and Purchasing of Food, etc. I haven't heard back from the friend I text messaged yesterday, but I just messaged another friend via Facebook. I'll let you know if I hear back from him. What kind of classes is he taking now? (You're making me miss culinary school SDL!!!) ETA: I was going to add that if he's on a tight schedule he should probably look into any restaurant that might be willing to hire him-Italian or not. Hotels, French places, American...etc. Like Charlie Trotters...I'm going to go dig out an old Zagats guide I got from school... _______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/25/2008 2:11:18 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 2:39:03 AM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
Ok. My Zagats guide is from 2004, and I haven't checked on any of the these restaurants, so I don't know if they are around any more, but I figured I'd list them anyway. Chicago Italian: Spiaggia* Gabriel's* (New French/Italian) Caliterra (New American/Italian) Fortunato French/New French: Les Nomades* Ritz-Carlton Dining Room* Le Titi de Paris* (French) Carlos'* Trio* Ambria* Tru* Everest* Tallgrass* Les Deux Gros* (French) Avenues (New French/Mediterranean) Kevin (New French/New American) Le Bouchon (French Bistro) NoMI Pasteur (Vietnamese/French) Retro Bistro (French Bistro) (Unless otherwise indicated the above are all New French) A note here, there are lots of New American/Steakhouses/whatever else in Chicago-I'm sure it's because it's in the Midwest. I am willing to bet there will be more seafood places in Seattle. Seattle Italian: Cafe Juanita* (Northern Italian) Il Terrazzo Carmine* Brasa (Mediterranean) Fish Club (Seafood/Mediterranean) As I guessed, there are a TON of seafood/Pacific Northwest places in Seattle-and those are the only Italianish places listed. There are even fewer French places. The majority of it is made up of Asian foods or Seafood/American/Steakhouses * -denotes Top Twenty Rating Honestly SDL, if he wants to cook Italian for the rest of his life, I would advise against interning at an Italian restaurant. This is the perfect opportunity to branch out and take advantage of being able to cook anything else, and really cooking always comes back to the basics. I would tell him to take advantage of this opportunity and use it for the experience instead of going forward with whats comfortable and what he wants to pursue. Heck if I could, I'd go back and try to work in an Asian restaurant for mine because it's kind of opposite of what I want to do (baking) and Asians certainly don't have a lot of classical French pastry! Only problem is that baking externs are supposed to work in baking places. Le sigh. Anyway, varied experiences make for more interesting food! (Have you read Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain? If you haven't, I recommend picking up a copy!) _______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/25/2008 2:39:03 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 10:49:21 AM | |
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Macie Ideal Rock Total Posts: 877 Last Post: 2/27/2009 Member Since: 10/23/2005 |
Hoping all goes well with your son in culinary school. If he has 1/10th of your lovely personality I know he will do well.
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| Posted: 5/25/2008 10:49:21 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 6:05:27 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/25/2008 10:49:21 AM Author: Macie Hoping all goes well with your son in culinary school. If he has 1/10th of your lovely personality I know he will do well. You're very sweet. He loves it and when he was still in High School, I called him Mr. Food Channel because its all he watched. It was pretty funny. He's got the most brilliant smile and great charisma. He wants so much to be a success. I cannot fathom his failing, he's just got so much drive. This young man will go far. (Not that I'm not biased or anything! ![]() )
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| Posted: 5/25/2008 6:05:27 PM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 6:06:55 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/25/2008 2:39:03 AM Author: FrekeChild Ok. My Zagats guide is from 2004, and I haven't checked on any of the these restaurants, so I don't know if they are around any more, but I figured I'd list them anyway. Chicago Italian: Spiaggia* Gabriel's* (New French/Italian) Caliterra (New American/Italian) Fortunato French/New French: Les Nomades* Ritz-Carlton Dining Room* Le Titi de Paris* (French) Carlos'* Trio* Ambria* Tru* Everest* Tallgrass* Les Deux Gros* (French) Avenues (New French/Mediterranean) Kevin (New French/New American) Le Bouchon (French Bistro) NoMI Pasteur (Vietnamese/French) Retro Bistro (French Bistro) (Unless otherwise indicated the above are all New French) A note here, there are lots of New American/Steakhouses/whatever else in Chicago-I'm sure it's because it's in the Midwest. I am willing to bet there will be more seafood places in Seattle. Seattle Italian: Cafe Juanita* (Northern Italian) Il Terrazzo Carmine* Brasa (Mediterranean) Fish Club (Seafood/Mediterranean) As I guessed, there are a TON of seafood/Pacific Northwest places in Seattle-and those are the only Italianish places listed. There are even fewer French places. The majority of it is made up of Asian foods or Seafood/American/Steakhouses * -denotes Top Twenty Rating Honestly SDL, if he wants to cook Italian for the rest of his life, I would advise against interning at an Italian restaurant. This is the perfect opportunity to branch out and take advantage of being able to cook anything else, and really cooking always comes back to the basics. I would tell him to take advantage of this opportunity and use it for the experience instead of going forward with whats comfortable and what he wants to pursue. Heck if I could, I'd go back and try to work in an Asian restaurant for mine because it's kind of opposite of what I want to do (baking) and Asians certainly don't have a lot of classical French pastry! Only problem is that baking externs are supposed to work in baking places. Le sigh. Anyway, varied experiences make for more interesting food! (Have you read Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain? If you haven't, I recommend picking up a copy!) I'll forward all of this to my son, you've been very helpful!! Hugs to you all.. and great thanks. :) ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/25/2008 6:06:55 PM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 10:40:02 PM | |
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EMPTorres Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 8/18/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2007 |
Here is one more for Chicago. http://www.maggianos.com/default.asp
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| Posted: 5/25/2008 10:40:02 PM | |
| P: 5/25/2008 11:31:34 PM | |
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Blair138 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,104 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 4/8/2008 |
Rosebud on Rush is a fabulous Italian restaurant.
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| Posted: 5/25/2008 11:31:34 PM | |
| P: 5/26/2008 12:23:11 PM | |
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mercoledi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,667 Last Post: 10/5/2009 Member Since: 6/20/2006 |
Portland, Or has a very up-and-coming chef scene, maybe he could contact someone there? Extra MSG (www.extramsg.com) is a Portland food blog, should give him a few ideas!
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| Posted: 5/26/2008 12:23:11 PM | |
| P: 5/28/2008 1:29:08 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
I've forwarded everything on to my son. Thank you everyone for providing me with great information for him!!!
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| Posted: 5/28/2008 1:29:08 PM | |
| P: 5/28/2008 1:54:10 PM | |
FrekeChild Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2007 |
I hope he finds something SDL!!!
_______________________________ "Women are either goddesses or doormats." Pablo Picasso "In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain |
| Posted: 5/28/2008 1:54:10 PM | |
| P: 5/28/2008 2:15:59 PM | |
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SanDiegoLady Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2005 |
Date: 5/28/2008 1:54:10 PM Author: FrekeChild I hope he finds something SDL!!! Thanks honey, me too. He's still early in school but he's very motivated. :) ![]() ![]() |
| Posted: 5/28/2008 2:15:59 PM | |
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