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After visit to Mark at ERD, your advice on stone needed!

P: 5/23/2008 10:11:40 AM
CKinNYC Cut Rock Total Posts: 185 Last Post: 9/11/2009 Member Since: 4/20/2008	Hi folks Well I was lucky enought to meet with the lovely Mark T at ERD yesterday, who showed me a few cushions and a round, in my price range. I wanted to confirm which type of stone I want - and I'm going to go with a round. Mark showed me a 1.87 H SI1 (specs below), which looked totally eyeclean and sparkly to me - I could see lovely arrows! Only thing is, this stone scores a 3.6 on the HCA, and, when compared side by side with (an admittedly bigger G) that scored 1.7, I felt that the 1.87 looked a little dark inside - like the stone that scored better was reflecting a lot more white light internally. Mark said this was due to the color difference, but, with utmost respect, I disagreed - I was looking at both front-on, and the 1.87ct was definitely darker. Does this make sense?! Anyhoo, I have subsequently found a 2ct I SI1 online. I'm just verifying with the vendor tha the stone is eyeclean, but here's the clincher - it's AGS0 Ideal Cut, and scores a 0.7 (EX-EX-EX-EX) on the HCA. Specs below. Pros to this new stone (I): it's bigger, much better score on the HCA, better cut (right?) Cons: Lower in color; have to determine if it's eyeclean (photo looks good) Assuming that the I is eyeclean, would you sacrifice the color grade for the bigger size and better score on the HCA? My reading of these forums would indicate "yes" - but I would love your opinions! One last thing! If I go for the I, could I get it thru' Mark? He's such a nice guy, and would like him to get the business, if poss. Thanks so much! Claire 1.87 H SI1 Depth 62 Table 57 Crown: 36 Pav: 40.8 GIA : EX-EX-EX HCA: 3.6 = G-VG-G-VG 2.01 I SI1 Depth: 59.9 Table: 56 Crown: 33.8 Pav: 40.8 AGS0 Cut HCA: 0.7 = EX-EX-EX-EX Thank you lovely Pricescopers!!
Posted: 5/23/2008 10:11:40 AM

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P: 5/23/2008 10:19:18 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	If this is a virtual stone, then maybe Mark can get it in for you, I would ask him. You have been able to see the first one, if it doesn't smile at you so to speak, then passing is the right decision. I would definitely go larger with an I colour if the cut was great, so that would be an easy decision for me, but you must do what is right for you! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/23/2008 10:19:18 AM

P: 5/23/2008 10:25:02 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I can believe that stone appeared less brilliant, considering the crown/pavilion combo. I would pass on it myself. The second definitely has potential to be very bright and pretty. I can't say what I would do, it has to be what you yourself are comfortable with. Have you seen a well cut I in that size? If not, maybe hit up a store that sells AGS0/HOF and see for yourself if it would bother you or not. That way you know for sure. And as Lorelei said, if it's a virtual stone, Mark should be able to call it in. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/23/2008 10:25:02 AM

P: 5/23/2008 10:50:13 AM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,442 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Ellen and Lorelei have it covered as usual! I thritto their comments about both stones and Mark. I love Mark!
Posted: 5/23/2008 10:50:13 AM

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