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HELP-----> Is this a good buy for the price?

P: 5/9/2008 11:32:19 AM
Carnevil Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 9/18/2008 Member Since: 5/9/2008	The Jeweler is offering me $10,000 for this. Is this a great buy or should I keep looking for better? I've been searching for 2 months..... GIA round 7.28-7.32 x 4.55 mm 1.50 G SI-1 Excell Cut Grade pol=Ex sym=Ex fl=faint t=58 d=62.3 Inclusions are: (towards the edges of the table, not in the center) feather, crystal, cloud, indented natural, natural
Posted: 5/9/2008 11:32:19 AM

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P: 5/9/2008 11:57:22 AM
Carnevil Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 9/18/2008 Member Since: 5/9/2008	ANyone have any thoughts about this diamond....?
Posted: 5/9/2008 11:57:22 AM

P: 5/9/2008 12:01:05 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,329 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	Please post the crown and pavilon angles from the cert. We will need that information to run it through the HCA: http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:01:05 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:02:00 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,243 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 5/9/2008 12:01:05 PM Author: Chrono Please post the crown and pavilon angles from the cert. We will need that information to run it through the HCA: http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp Welcome! Yep, we need those angles to be able to help further. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:02:00 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:09:23 PM
Carnevil Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 9/18/2008 Member Since: 5/9/2008	I believe the crown is 35.5 degrees, 55% and pavilion is 41.2 degrees, 80% no culet med-sth girdle
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:09:23 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:12:32 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,329 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	HCA 4.6 where it is out of the AGS0 range but still falls within the GIA. Good in all categories with a VG in spread. I think I'd pass on it.
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:12:32 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:14:23 PM
Carnevil Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 9/18/2008 Member Since: 5/9/2008	Pass? I don't understand you hca lingo..... I thought catagories are in excel range.... why pass?
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:14:23 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:15:22 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,243 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 5/9/2008 12:09:23 PM Author: Carnevil I believe the crown is 35.5 degrees, 55% and pavilion is 41.2 degrees, 80% no culet med-sth girdle Thanks! Going by these figures, it appears this diamond may be what we call a steep deep, that the crown and pavilion angles are not likely to give you the best light return, the diamond may leak light and not sparkle as much as you would wish. I would look for some more contenders personally and try to keep the numbers similar to these. depth - 60 - 62.4% ( my preferred max cut off) table - 54 - 57% crown angle - 34 - 35 deg pavilion angle - 40.6 - 41 deg - for these angles on the shallower and steeper ends ( 34/ 40.6 shallower) and ( 35/ 41 steeper) an Idealscope image and trusted vendor evaluation is particularly useful to make sure the angles work in harmony with that diamond. polish and symmetry very good and above. Also HCA means the Holloway Cut Advisor which is used for eliminating stones, not selecting them. A score of 2 and under is considered desirable in many cases, that the diamond may be worth further consideration. Also you can't go by labels such as Excellent cut, Ideal cut necessarily, this does not guarantee you a well cut stone unfortunately. Perhaps the easiest approach is to use the search tool above, enter your size, colour and clarity, then hit cut quality search. This should bring up some well cut diamonds for you to consider. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:15:22 PM

P: 5/9/2008 12:22:44 PM
Carnevil Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 9/18/2008 Member Since: 5/9/2008	I am confused. WHy would GIA grade a triple EX?.... so this isn't worth the 10,000?...I should keep looking around?
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:22:44 PM

P: 5/9/2008 4:44:17 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	we consider GIA's grading to be flawed when it comes to certain proportions. Yes, keep looking.
Posted: 5/9/2008 4:44:17 PM

P: 5/9/2008 4:53:04 PM
dreamer_dachsie Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,563 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 12/16/2007	This thread may help you, read down a little and there is a discussion of GIA excellent: http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=84873 If you want to know if it is a good deal for the $$, then use the search function at the top of this page, it will tell you what comparable diamonds cost (i.e., other GIA excellent cuts of similar size). We are just telling you that we don't think the cut is a good as you can get. It's up to you to decide if you think it is a good deal or not, and whether you want to buy it, we won't tell you that. We can only tell you that as obsessive diamond nuts, we personally would pass. * Dreamer *
Posted: 5/9/2008 4:53:04 PM

P: 5/9/2008 5:34:40 PM
purrfectpear Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,702 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 3/31/2008	I agree. I looked at pricescope and would say for $8000 probably, for $9000 possibly, but for $10000 you can do much better. "Style is knowing who you are, what you want to say and not giving a damn." -Gore Vidal
Posted: 5/9/2008 5:34:40 PM

P: 5/10/2008 10:03:54 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	i always get leery about these magic # stone 1.00ct,1.5ct,2.00ct etc,etc....the cutter will try very hard to keep the weight at these magic numbers. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:03:54 PM

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