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»  » 0.9 H VS1 vs 0.8 F VVS2
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0.9 H VS1 vs 0.8 F VVS2 |
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| P: 4/25/2008 4:07:54 AM | |
mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
First of all, bear in mind that I live in Germany, where diamond solitaire engagement rings are not nearly as common as the US, and 0.5 ct is a big diamond for anyone who is not a wealthy Munich resident - either of these stones is going to be huge around here! With our PS discounts a place I'm not going to mention because I don't want someone to snag one of them, these stones are within $300 of each other, and within budget, so that's not a consideration at this point. I know that the VS1 and especially the VVS2 clarity will strike a lot of you as overkill, but it's hard finding great stones between .75 and 1 ct! Plus, my fiance admires the idea of getting something fairly close to perfect - I did convince him that D IF was complete overkill, and that H was not going to look yellow! The 0.9 H VS1 has great crown and pavilion angles (34.6, 40.8, table 58%, depth 61%, HCA 1.4) - the only reason it appears to have failed making the cut for AGS 0 was the polish and symmetry merely being Excellent, and perhaps being on the line of AGS 0 due to its table size. The 0.8 F VVS2 is AGS 0 and one of the well-regarded H&A lines (HCA 1.4 and smack-dab in the middle of AGS 0 range for its 55.6% table, 61.3% depth, 34.8 crown and 40.8 pavilion) and more expensive by $300. I care slightly more about fire and scintillation than brilliance and spread. I'm pretty sure that either is going to be gorgeous, but I just need to break the tie, so want to hear your opinions. My fiance is ready for me to finish this thing up, not to mention the poor long-suffering sales representative (who will be named when this is all over with), who has put up with me changing my mind a few times after sending in payment... |
| Posted: 4/25/2008 4:07:54 AM | |
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| P: 4/25/2008 4:19:06 AM | |
Cleo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 931 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 1/26/2008 |
It would be really helpful if you could post all the stats for each diamond (dimensions, angles etc)... it'd be nice to compare diameters for each stone, but you aren't so concerned with spread. Without them... I very much like the smaller table of the 0.8ct diamond, and the higher colour grade - so I would pick this stone for those two reasons... and the fact the second stone is AGS0. The clarity grade is irrelevant (in my personal opinion) if the two diamonds are both eyeclean, which I'm sure they are.. so being VVS2 is just the icing on the cake really, rather than a selection criterion in this case (for me). x x x
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 4:19:06 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 4:33:24 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
Oh, the average diameters are 6.21mm for the 0.9, and 6.01mm for the 0.8. If I put the two unmounted side by side, I would be able to tell, but probably not when mounted. I asked the long-suffering sales rep to please tell me which one is just more compelling to look at, since I'm not sure I could spot the color difference when mounted, unless you held the two rings together.
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 4:33:24 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 5:01:29 AM | |
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Cleo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 931 Last Post: 9/21/2008 Member Since: 1/26/2008 |
Date: 4/25/2008 4:33:24 AM Author: mandielee Oh, the average diameters are 6.21mm for the 0.9, and 6.01mm for the 0.8. If I put the two unmounted side by side, I would be able to tell, but probably not when mounted. I asked the long-suffering sales rep to please tell me which one is just more compelling to look at, since I'm not sure I could spot the color difference when mounted, unless you held the two rings together. This is a fantastic idea - and a great way to choose, as the rep can actually see the diamonds. In fact, it's how I made the final decision between the two diamonds I was considering... I went with the recommendation of the gemologist that was actually looking at them. You can relax though.. either diamond is going to be absolutely beautiful. :) x x x
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 5:01:29 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 6:13:28 AM | |
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,323 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004 |
If it is a PS vendor, have the vendor take an idealscope picture of both stones for you (and us) to compare. Post both without saying which is which and ask us to pick one. That's the real test.
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 6:13:28 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 7:59:33 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
Date: 4/25/2008 6:13:28 AM Author: Chrono If it is a PS vendor, have the vendor take an idealscope picture of both stones for you (and us) to compare. Post both without saying which is which and ask us to pick one. That's the real test.
Pictures to follow, in random order - I'll be impressed if one of you can match the picture to the stats. Please note that the relative sizes of the images have nothing to do with the sizes of the stones. Stone #1: 
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 7:59:33 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 8:00:18 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
Stone #2:
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 8:00:18 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 8:00:59 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
And finally, Stone #3:
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 8:00:59 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 8:17:20 AM | |
Heidi137 Cut Rock Total Posts: 110 Last Post: 11/7/2009 Member Since: 11/3/2007 |
I think I'd go with the F color stone. I have an H and I can definitely see the warmth. I'm going to upgrade to a higher color soon.
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 8:17:20 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 9:07:58 AM | |
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
All the stones are fine. It basically boils down to whether you want F and smaller or H and larger. I have an H VS1, so I suppose that is what I'd pick!
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 9:07:58 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 9:22:58 AM | |
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,239 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 4/25/2008 9:07:58 AM Author: diamondseeker2006 All the stones are fine. It basically boils down to whether you want F and smaller or H and larger. I have an H VS1, so I suppose that is what I'd pick! Ditto. Also it may be best to ask the vendor as to which stone will exhibit your preferred characteristics the best.  Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 4/25/2008 9:22:58 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 10:36:19 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
Yep, I've asked the sales rep who I've been working with (and changed my mind on several times). So far, she's been incredibly responsive, but I want to winnow things down a bit so I can act on her advice more quickly and finally get this done. I was fine until they got a new shipment of stones in... Fortunately, I'll have the ring in hand before that happens again! Please continue to offer your feedback - especially if you can't tell the difference between F and H, but can between 0.8 and 0.9, vice versa, or neither. Note that the 0.82 H VS2 described above is about 2/3 the price of the 0.9 H VS1 or 0.8 F VVS2, and is among the Idealscope images I posted. Thanks PSers!
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 10:36:19 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 10:43:01 AM | |
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Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,323 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004 |
I can see the difference between an F and a H, BUT I like both colours. What are the measurements of the 0.8 and the 0.9 stone? If it is very small (which I'm guessing it is) then the choice gets tougher. ETA Just saw the pricing. In that case, I'd take the H VS1 over the F VVS2 All the IScopes look lovely.
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 10:43:01 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 10:56:17 AM | |
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mandielee Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 5/27/2008 Member Since: 3/28/2008 |
The average diameter of the 0.9 H VS1 is 6.21mm and $4326, the 0.8 F VVS2 is 6.01mm and $4560, and the 0.82 H VS2 is 5.97mm and $2958  .( because it makes it harder to legitmate getting either of the first two if I think H color and 0.8 size are totally fine - that's a nice trip back to the US's worth of difference!)
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| Posted: 4/25/2008 10:56:17 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2008 10:56:27 AM | |
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004 |
Date: 4/25/2008 10:43:01 AM HI:Author: Chrono I can see the difference between an F and a H, BUT I like both colours. What are the measurements of the 0.8 and the 0.9 stone? If it is very small (which I'm guessing it is) then the choice gets tougher. ETA Just saw the pricing. In that case, I'd take the H VS1 over the F VVS2 All the IScopes look lovely. Ditto; altho I am hard pressed as I love high color....... cheers--Sharon "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off". |
| Posted: 4/25/2008 10:56:27 AM | |
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