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 Which setting of these two setting for a cushion?

P:  3/16/2008 9:07:25 AM  
sonomacounty
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I'm looking at a 1-1.25 square chunky cushion.  Which of these two settings do you prefer?


1.  http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=55469 

This is the thin Ritani band with the diamonds all the way around.  I like the delicate look of this one but can you resize it, as the setting diamonds seem to go all the way around?  Have concerns about band stones,  as I like to put things in the ultrasound.

- or -

2.  http://www.goodoldgold.com/setting/V-102/


I like the delicate look of this one but can you resize it, as the setting diamonds seem to go all the way around?  Love the sleek, somewhat bold look to it, but don't feel a cushion is a good match for a sleek, somewhat modern setting.

Thanks.
Posted:  3/16/2008 9:07:25 AM

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P: 3/16/2008 9:24:30 AM
Ellen
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Are you sure you posted the right one from GOG? If so, I guess I don't understand your question about it...

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 9:24:30 AM
P: 3/16/2008 9:49:06 AM
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I love the Ritani setting for a cushion!

Posted:  3/16/2008 9:49:06 AM
P: 3/16/2008 9:52:46 AM
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Thanks Ellen.  Yes, I posted the right one.  You can put a cushion in that setting, although there is a round in that photo.  But, I'm not sure a cushion would really look ok in it. 

That setting - sleek, more modern
Cushion - a bit more antique of a look.

Thanks.

Posted:  3/16/2008 9:52:46 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:01:47 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 9:07:25 AM
Author:sonomacounty
I'm looking at a 1-1.25 square chunky cushion. Which of these two settings do you prefer?


2. http://www.goodoldgold.com/setting/V-102/


I like the delicate look of this one but can you resize it, as the setting diamonds seem to go all the way around? Love the sleek, somewhat bold look to it, but don't feel a cushion is a good match for a sleek, somewhat modern setting.

Thanks.
This is where you're losing me. Sorry!

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 10:01:47 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:06:22 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 10:01:47 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 3/16/2008 9:07:25 AM
Author:sonomacounty
I'm looking at a 1-1.25 square chunky cushion. Which of these two settings do you prefer?


2. http://www.goodoldgold.com/setting/V-102/


I like the delicate look of this one but can you resize it, as the setting diamonds seem to go all the way around? Love the sleek, somewhat bold look to it, but don't feel a cushion is a good match for a sleek, somewhat modern setting.

Thanks.
This is where you're losing me. Sorry!

I'm with Ellen (a little confused).  I LOVE the Ritani though!  I love the diamonds in the basket.

Posted:  3/16/2008 10:06:22 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:21:36 AM
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On the Ritani, since the diamonds go all the way around, can you get the band made smaller or larger if you eventually want to?  Or is that like an eternity band that you can't resize?

Posted:  3/16/2008 10:21:36 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:25:00 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 10:21:36 AM
Author: sonomacounty
On the Ritani, since the diamonds go all the way around, can you get the band made smaller or larger if you eventually want to? Or is that like an eternity band that you can't resize?
Ok, I get the question, I think you just posted it with the wrong ring.

I think sizing would be difficult, but maybe not impossible, if it's not too much. You need to ask Ritani that, they'd know best.

Of the two, I vote Ritani!

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 10:25:00 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:34:33 AM
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Hi,
I too got confused at first with the descriptions, but now I know what you're getting at!
Are u sure the D.Vatche can accomodate a cushion? From my conversations with Marie at GOG, I got the impression it was just for round or square stones only..
They are very different styles, so I vote for the Ritani considering your centre stone shape. Not sure on the sizing, but have read that sizing eternity is a challenge. Sorry If you've already mentioned this, but can you just have it made to order in correct size?







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Posted:  3/16/2008 10:34:33 AM
P: 3/16/2008 10:41:41 AM
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Ritani for a cushion. Very pretty setting.

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 10:41:41 AM
P: 3/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
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Are u sure the D.Vatche can accomodate a cushion?>

I was told yes. 

Thanks all.

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Do you think a cushion would look funny in the Vatche (modern type setting with an old type stone)?

Posted:  3/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
P: 3/16/2008 11:21:05 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
Author: sonomacounty
Are u sure the D.Vatche can accomodate a cushion?>

I was told yes.

Thanks all.

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Do you think a cushion would look funny in the Vatche (modern type setting with an old type stone)?

Honestly, while I adore modern settings and I love the Vatche, I can't picture it with a Cushion. Do they have one in stock that maybe they can just sit the cushion on to see?

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 11:21:05 AM
P: 3/16/2008 11:23:04 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
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Do you think a cushion would look funny in the Vatche (modern type setting with an old type stone)?

No. There are a couple regular x-prongs around here with cushions. If I could remember who they were, I'd link you.

But I think the Ritani would show case it and make it "pop" more.

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 11:23:04 AM
P: 3/16/2008 11:41:00 AM
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Date: 3/16/2008 11:23:04 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 3/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
Author: sonomacounty

Do you think a cushion would look funny in the Vatche (modern type setting with an old type stone)?

No. There are a couple regular x-prongs around here with cushions. If I could remember who they were, I'd link you.

But I think the Ritani would show case it and make it 'pop' more.
Ellen, I would love to see some as a cushion's my next project for September.

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 11:41:00 AM
P: 3/16/2008 12:00:24 PM
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elle, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack to find them. There are just too many x-prong threads now. Try searching some time when you have hours to kill.

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:00:24 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:29:37 PM
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Now what about this instead of the Ritani (for the cushion)? 

http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=266&rn=1199&action=show_detail

I think it is similar to the Ritani.  However, this one does not have the diamonds all the way around, so I could size the ring if I ever needed to.  Also, I like the millgrain.  (If you put your cursor on the different images, it brings them up).

I agree, I'm thinking that the Vatche may not look right with a cushion.

Thanks so very much. 

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:29:37 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:33:46 PM
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I am totally in love with #1. The tiny band will proportionately (sp?) make the stone pop.

Kelly C.

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:33:46 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:35:05 PM
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The Knox is very pretty, too....

Kelly C.

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:35:05 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:40:40 PM
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Date: 3/16/2008 12:29:37 PM
Author: sonomacounty
Now what about this instead of the Ritani (for the cushion)?

http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=266&rn=1199&action=show_detail

I think it is similar to the Ritani. However, this one does not have the diamonds all the way around, so I could size the ring if I ever needed to. Also, I like the millgrain. (If you put your cursor on the different images, it brings them up).

I agree, I'm thinking that the Vatche may not look right with a cushion.

Thanks so very much.
The Knox one is pretty but I'm not lovin' the head or side view on it.  Still loving the Ritani.

Ellen- I'm gonna do a search tonight. Very curious now!!   

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:40:40 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:48:15 PM
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I like the Ritani better personally. Could they not make that ring 3/4?

However, it's really all about what you like!


elle, lemme know if you find them. I'm pretty sure one is around a 3.5ish ct.

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:48:15 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:09:17 PM
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I prefer the Ritani...the Knox is pertty, but I don't like how the profile looks like the head was just plopped on top.

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Posted:  3/16/2008 1:09:17 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:20:38 PM
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Date: 3/16/2008 12:48:15 PM
Author: Ellen
I like the Ritani better personally. Could they not make that ring 3/4?

However, it's really all about what you like!


elle, lemme know if you find them. I'm pretty sure one is around a 3.5ish ct.
Will do!! 

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 1:20:38 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:22:13 PM
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Hi sonomacounty,
I vote for the Ritani...but I'm a little biased because I have one

Check our my SMTR thread  to see how it looks like with a square cushion.

If you are worried about being able to resize the ring, just ask your jeweler to have Ritani leave a small space of metal at the bottom. I ordered both my e-ring and w-band done at the same time so that the metal portion on both match perfectly. 

In regards to your question about the ultrasonic, I have been too chicken to try it. I have to admit that it is such a challenge to keep the ring clean. I soak it in jewelery cleaner every night but seems to get dirty again right away.

Posted:  3/16/2008 1:22:13 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:34:42 PM
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You know what TeeTee - THAT IS IT ! !    Thanks so much for your help and everyone elses.  Your ring is exquisite. 

Good, now I can stop torturing myself over figuring this out and go on to other things (YAY ! !)

<If you are worried about being able to resize the ring, just ask your jeweler to have Ritani leave a small space of metal at the bottom. I ordered both my e-ring and w-band done at the same time so that the metal portion on both match perfectly.>

Absolutely.  I didn't realize that they would do that.

Tee - how long did it take them to make your setting with that special request?  What size is your diamond?

Thanks all.  Really.  You're the best.

I've spent hours on looking and figuring this out.  Done.  Time to go pour a glass of wine.





Posted:  3/16/2008 1:34:42 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:37:06 PM
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Date: 3/16/2008 1:34:42 PM
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You know what TeeTee - THAT IS IT ! ! Thanks so much for your help and everyone elses. Your ring is exquisite.

Good, now I can stop torturing myself over figuring this out and go on to other things (YAY ! !)

&lt;If you are worried about being able to resize the ring, just ask your jeweler to have Ritani leave a small space of metal at the bottom. I ordered both my e-ring and w-band done at the same time so that the metal portion on both match perfectly.&gt;

Absolutely. I didn't realize that they would do that.

Tee - how long did it take them to make your setting with that special request? What size is your diamond?

Thanks all. Really. You're the best.

I've spent hours on looking and figuring this out. Done. Time to go pour a glass of wine.





Congrats. Teetee's ring is gorgeous. I'm sure yours will be too.

(don't forget to post pics when it's done!!!)

elle

Posted:  3/16/2008 1:37:06 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:45:26 PM
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Thanks Elle Chris.  I don't have a camera that can do macro, though.  I feel guilty because you all have helped me all so much and feel I owe you some nice eye candy, at least.  
 
Maybe I can get a photo from the jeweler when it is done.

Posted:  3/16/2008 1:45:26 PM
P: 3/16/2008 1:53:24 PM
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I vote for the ritani. as for sizing, Ritani actually sized down butterfly17's sapphire ring down 2 sizes for her and it was full eternity. also, many of the Ritani owners here put their rings in the ultrasonic and haven't reported any problems. I just love the quality and craftmanship that the Ritani reputation has. I actually considered the same setting when I was looking to buy a loose cushion and set it.





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Posted:  3/16/2008 1:53:24 PM
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i see you decided on the Ritani...yay, please post pics when it's done..





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Posted:  3/16/2008 1:54:34 PM
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Yay, I'm glad I was able to help

My diamond is .94ct but I think it faces up a little smaller because it is H&A and cut deeper than other cushions I've seen. But I still love it. I also get tons of compliments on both the diamond and setting.

It took about 5 weeks for my set to be completed. I don't think the "special" request makes an impact on the wait time because Ritani needs to custom make the setting for your diamond anyway.

Please try to post pics of your ring if you can!

Posted:  3/16/2008 2:21:19 PM
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I absolutely love the Ritani setting for a cushion or a round!  One thing I would do, though, is have the shank made to be 2mm which is the same width as the wedding band. The regular size is under 2mm, and it was just a little bit too thin. I think Butterfly had hers made in 2mm to be the same width as the matching wedding band. I think I asked Pearlman's and they said they can ask Ritani to make it that way.




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Posted:  3/16/2008 3:45:05 PM
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Tee - I love your square h&a ! !  That is a great cut.  I didn't realize they had to custom make each Ritani - so, cool, it won't take any longer.

DS - Great idea on the 2 mm.   Will do.  Also, I think a touch wider would help it turn less, also.  (I have a thing with rings that turn.)

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One more question - can the 2 mm band handle a 1.25 cushion or is that too big for it?  I don't have it yet, we are searching for right now and the stone may be from 1 - 1.25 ct.

Thanks again Oh-People-of-Great-Knowledge.

Posted:  3/16/2008 9:36:02 PM

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