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P: 3/16/2008 8:06:46 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	I've been doing some research on and off for the past few months on diamonds. Clearly buying online is the way to go considering my budget and common sense. I went to Zales yesterday with my gf to get a better idea of what she is looking for in a diamond. She is really looking for a princess cut around 1carat. It will go into a solitaire setting. I am looking to spend between $4000-$5000 on the stone. From what I am reading, it sounds like I can probably get a color = F,G and clarity = SI1-VS2, and still get something that looks great to the naked eye and still not breaking the bank. Am I dreaming about this price point with the qualities I want? Is my budget too high for a 1carat? What sort of depth and table %s are acceptable? From my research, it seems to be depth should be 57-64 and table should be 53-60? For a princess cut, I seem to understand that I am looking for gridle = thin to slightly thick. I am looking for bang for buck here so quality at the 1carat or maybe a little larger (1-1.05) is my hope. Any rock suggestions and guidance would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:06:46 AM

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P: 3/16/2008 8:10:08 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Welcome! Whiteflash A Cut Above Princess may be a great way for you to go, the easy way to get a stunning Princess! Here is one, a bit over budget, but I don't know if you can stretch a little? ( check if eyeclean with WF) http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/A-Cut-Above-Princess-cut-diamond-312224.htm A bit over budget, but you may get a discount if you pay by bank wire. http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/A-Cut-Above-Princess-cut-diamond-617022.htm Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:10:08 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:20:00 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	thanks for the quick reply! in regards to "eye clean" do I just call and ask them if its eye clean? what else should I ask if I call. Are the prices there with the PS discount? They are showing up as 5500 to 5700 respectively
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:20:00 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:24:18 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Lorelei picked some great ones. If you can't swing those because of budget, I'd suggest going to H, I think that would still be fine and face up very white. I couldn't find any at WF, but GOG has a couple. You can ask for pics and more info. http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4198/ http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4197/ Bankwire price is discount. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:24:18 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:26:07 AM
Wink Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,037 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 5/4/2001	Your research looks to be giving you some strange numbers, at least for a princess. If you truly want a beautiful gem, then you will need to look at the standards set by the American Gem Society and stick with an AGS 0 through 2 cut grade. The average princess that you will see in the stores is probably around an AGS 5 - 6 cut grade. There are many vendors on this forum who deal with AGS papered princess cuts that can help you better to see princess cuts that truly do deserve to be worn on the hand of your princess. Wink Wink Jones GG Winfield's/High Performance Diamonds
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:26:07 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:27:52 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 8:20:00 AM Author: eb50 thanks for the quick reply! in regards to 'eye clean' do I just call and ask them if its eye clean? what else should I ask if I call. Are the prices there with the PS discount? They are showing up as 5500 to 5700 respectively Yes, these are in house diamonds, so just ask your rep at WF if the SI1 diamond is eyeclean and they will be able to tell you. I was trying to check out the price for you, but I couldn't get these diamonds to come up on the PS search, so it may be best to check the price with WF. Also if you decide you want either of these diamonds, it could be best to put it on hold to prevent it being grabbed! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:27:52 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:29:47 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 8:24:18 AM Author: Ellen Lorelei picked some great ones. If you can't swing those because of budget, I'd suggest going to H, I think that would still be fine and face up very white. I couldn't find any at WF, but GOG has a couple. You can ask for pics and more info. http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4198/ http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4197/ Bankwire price is discount. Yiss! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:29:47 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:32:18 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	when you call WF or a vendor like that, do you usually end up haggling or paying what is posted? Do I just ask for the PS lowest price and go with it? If I have to haggle, what % do I need to haggle? My budget can go slightly higher if its "the diamond." Hopefully she will keep it forever so I can spend some more. Unfortunately I wont be able to handle a bank transfer.
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:32:18 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:50:33 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/16/2008 8:32:18 AM Author: eb50 when you call WF or a vendor like that, do you usually end up haggling or paying what is posted? Do I just ask for the PS lowest price and go with it? If I have to haggle, what % do I need to haggle? My budget can go slightly higher if its 'the diamond.' Hopefully she will keep it forever so I can spend some more. Unfortunately I wont be able to handle a bank transfer. I suppose you could try asking for a lower price, but these are already priced very reasonably. I don't think too many try to haggle. And yes, just ask for the PS dicount. But with some, I think that's only the bankwire. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:50:33 AM

P: 3/16/2008 8:54:09 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	thanks! i am leaning towards the 2 diamonds that lorelei recommended from WF. what are the main differences between the two other than price? the depth and table seem a little high to my research, but you guys are certainly the experts. also, how is WFs prices on settings? My gf wants something like this. Would you recommend getting the ring portion locally or doing it as a package? http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/-Sleek-Lines--Solitaire_688.htm
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:54:09 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:06:48 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	They are both really great stones. The ASET's are almost identical, but I'd give the nudge to the F, which also happens to face up a little bigger. And it's the cheaper one, so that would get my vote! And it's much easier to get the setting w/vendor. Also that way WF will take responsibility for the stone while setting. And the setting you picked would show off a Princess very well and make it "pop". Great choice! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:06:48 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:10:06 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	Date: 3/16/2008 9:06:48 AM Author: Ellen They are both really great stones. The ASET's are almost identical, but I'd give the nudge to the F, which also happens to face up a little bigger. And it's the cheaper one, so that would get my vote! And it's much easier to get the setting w/vendor. Also that way WF will take responsibility for the stone while setting. And the setting you picked would show off a Princess very well and make it 'pop'. Great choice! thank you very much. i should have posted on here a long time ago. i will call today and ask if the F is eye clean and also ask about the PS discount. Is there anything else I should be asking? Thanks so much. I was getting really stressed out about this.
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:10:06 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:15:04 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/16/2008 9:10:06 AM Author: eb50 thank you very much. i should have posted on here a long time ago. i will call today and ask if the F is eye clean and also ask about the PS discount. Is there anything else I should be asking? Thanks so much. I was getting really stressed out about this. Aw, you're welcome. Don't be stressed now, you're on the right path. WF is closed today, they'll be open tomorrow. I can't think of anything else to ask besides what you've mentioned, except to ask them to reserve it for you, if you aren't ready to commit right then. That way no one else can buy it while you're thinking about it, that happens. You've picked a really great stone, it's going to knock her socks off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:15:04 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:16:13 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 9:15:04 AM Author: Ellen Date: 3/16/2008 9:10:06 AM Author: eb50 thank you very much. i should have posted on here a long time ago. i will call today and ask if the F is eye clean and also ask about the PS discount. Is there anything else I should be asking? Thanks so much. I was getting really stressed out about this. Aw, you're welcome. Don't be stressed now, you're on the right path. WF is closed today, they'll be open tomorrow. I can't think of anything else to ask besides what you've mentioned, except to ask them to reserve it for you, if you aren't ready to commit right then. That way no one else can buy it while you're thinking about it, that happens. You've picked a really great stone, it's going to knock her socks off. Popping back, but Ellen said everything I would have anyway! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:16:13 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:18:01 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/16/2008 9:16:13 AM Author: Lorelei Popping back, but Ellen said everything I would have anyway! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:18:01 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:21:05 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 9:18:01 AM Author: Ellen Date: 3/16/2008 9:16:13 AM Author: Lorelei Popping back, but Ellen said everything I would have anyway! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:21:05 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:25:34 AM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	i will give them a call tomorrow. do they want a deposit if you put it on hold? how long will they hold it? i am going to be really disappointed if its not eye clean. well, at least i know i can come back here and ask for more help! now to find a 0% credit card so i dont go broke in the next month.
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:25:34 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:29:30 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	No charge to hold it. I'm not sure how long they will, just ask. I hope it's eyeclean too! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:29:30 AM

P: 3/16/2008 9:31:56 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 9:29:30 AM Author: Ellen No charge to hold it. I'm not sure how long they will, just ask. I hope it's eyeclean too! Ditto. Also I should think it will be a thumbs up for ' eyecleanliness" * crosses fingers* Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:31:56 AM

P: 3/16/2008 1:33:54 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	if i end up getting the combo discussed above, what are my next steps? appraisal? how do i go about insurance? seems like alot of people go through chubb. will WF give me an appraisal?
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:33:54 PM

P: 3/16/2008 1:35:40 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 1:33:54 PM Author: eb50 if i end up getting the combo discussed above, what are my next steps? appraisal? how do i go about insurance? seems like alot of people go through chubb. will WF give me an appraisal? WF will send you an appraisal you can use for insurance purposes. You could get an independant appraisal if you wished, but some don't worry as WF have such an excellent rep, but it depends on your own comfort level. With insurance, Chubb and Jewelers Mutual seem to be popular. www.jewelersmutual.com Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:35:40 PM

P: 3/16/2008 1:39:51 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	should i assume that the appraisal value will be the same or more than what i end up paying? i just dont want to be shocked when i see it
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:39:51 PM

P: 3/16/2008 1:43:01 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 3/16/2008 1:39:51 PM Author: eb50 should i assume that the appraisal value will be the same or more than what i end up paying? i just dont want to be shocked when i see it I have this info from the Whiteflash site, it should help you there. http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds_info/t/confidence.aspx?articleid=6&zoneid=2 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:43:01 PM

P: 3/17/2008 4:02:44 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	i called this afternoon and put the diamond on hold. it is eye clean and they will hold it for 24hrs. they said if i was to get it with a setting, it would take roughly 7 business days to ship
Posted: 3/17/2008 4:02:44 PM

P: 3/17/2008 6:06:55 PM
Addy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,915 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 10/20/2007	Have you found a setting that you like either through them or elsewhere?
Posted: 3/17/2008 6:06:55 PM

P: 3/17/2008 6:44:33 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	She picked this one.. http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/-Sleek-Lines--Solitaire_688.htm Now I need to find a way to pay for this. I may need to hold off and wait until some 0% deals come in. Hopefully the rock wont disappear by then.
Posted: 3/17/2008 6:44:33 PM

P: 3/18/2008 3:42:52 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	she changed her mind last nite and wants this one now... http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/-Legato--Sleek-Line_1118.htm i am planning on ordering this tonite
Posted: 3/18/2008 3:42:52 PM

P: 3/18/2008 3:48:02 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	Date: 3/18/2008 3:42:52 PM Author: eb50 she changed her mind last nite and wants this one now... http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/-Legato--Sleek-Line_1118.htm i am planning on ordering this tonite Beautiful setting, it really makes the center stone pop!
Posted: 3/18/2008 3:48:02 PM

P: 3/19/2008 3:47:30 PM
eb50 Rough Rock Total Posts: 13 Last Post: 3/31/2008 Member Since: 3/16/2008	and the wait begins... they are giving it a 10day lead time for setting
Posted: 3/19/2008 3:47:30 PM

P: 3/19/2008 5:18:13 PM
Jenn5504 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,166 Last Post: 8/20/2009 Member Since: 5/21/2007	She made a lovely setting choice! It's going to be an awesome ring!!! Can't wait to see the finished product!!!
Posted: 3/19/2008 5:18:13 PM

P: 3/19/2008 5:22:53 PM
Gypsy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,306 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 8/9/2005	Lovely!
Posted: 3/19/2008 5:22:53 PM

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