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P:  3/15/2008 8:26:20 AM  
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Rough Rock
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Hi all,


I am new to the forum and am hoping to get some great advice. I think I have found my diamond, but would like another opinion.


2.10 carat round ags0 ideal diamond
I color
VS2
diameter 8.13-8.22
total depth 62.4%
table sze 55.1%
crown angle 35.3
crown height 1.30 or 15.9%
pavilion angle 40.9
pavilion depth 3.55mm


thanks in advance!!!!!

 


Posted:  3/15/2008 8:26:20 AM

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P: 3/15/2008 12:25:23 PM
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Rough Rock
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one more thing in addition to my original post....Should I be leary about a 62.4% depth?  

Thanks!!!!!!

Posted:  3/15/2008 12:25:23 PM
P: 3/15/2008 2:03:44 PM
phoenixgirl
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This diamond scores 2.7 on the HCA and is right on the edge of being an AGS0.  Experts can explain if you'll see any difference visually due to this.  2.7 is very good but 2.0 and below is considered to be the best.

The depth doesn't aid you in terms of making the diamond appear larger than its weight, but it's also not overly deep.  What matters more is the combination of angles.  There's one diamond guide available in bookstores that says not go beyond 61% depth, but this has been proved to be hogwash (and its author convicted of fraud).

How does your diamond compare in price with this one?

Posted:  3/15/2008 2:03:44 PM
P: 3/15/2008 2:25:03 PM
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Rough Rock
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mine is about 5k less.  I was looking at the ags table for how they rate an ideal cut diamond and my specs seem to fall into place.  It just seemed like the diameter of 8.13 was smaller than other diamonds that were 2.10 carats.  I want to make sure I am not paying for a larger diamond that will look more like a 1.8 or so.  If that would be the case than I may look for a smaller diamond with better color.



But, if it is still a very good diamond than I should stop over analyzing and be happy :)

Posted:  3/15/2008 2:25:03 PM
P: 3/15/2008 2:39:43 PM
phoenixgirl
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No, no, it wouldn't look like a 1.8 carat.  Look at how much smaller a 1.8 is.  It might look like a 2.05 with a smaller depth, but I sure couldn't tell them apart!

Posted:  3/15/2008 2:39:43 PM
P: 3/15/2008 2:45:47 PM
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thank you for your reply!  So do you think that is a great stone or good stone?  The diamond cert says it's a triple 0 so it sounds great.  I just got nervous after reading some posts about the depth.  I just want to make the best decision!!!!!

Posted:  3/15/2008 2:45:47 PM
P: 3/15/2008 4:49:51 PM
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I think you have found your stone. Don't worry about the depth. You should have a nice crown height on your diamond (so a little more depth) which is a good thing! Lotsa fire.

Posted:  3/15/2008 4:49:51 PM
P: 3/15/2008 7:02:24 PM
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thanks for the feedback!  This site has TONS of information which can make you crazy and second guess yourself all day.  I guess it boils down to your gut instinct.  I wanted to make sure I was making a good decision for a life long treasure.

Posted:  3/15/2008 7:02:24 PM
P: 3/15/2008 11:08:30 PM
diamondseeker2006
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I think a 2 ct. AGS 0 stone at $5000 less than the one linked is quite a good buy! Good for you!




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Posted:  3/15/2008 11:08:30 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:08:25 PM
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It is less than the ring posted, but the one I am looking at it is not a H&A.  Would you take a look at the images for this diamond.  I am still a little nervous about the depth %.

 
 

 

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:08:25 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:09:30 PM
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second picture...I could not put them both on the same message

 

 

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:09:30 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:11:03 PM
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Is this of the 2.10? At any rate, it's not bad. While there is slight leakage, Gary has said the IS pics exaggerate things.  What does WF say?

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Posted:  3/16/2008 12:11:03 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:12:40 PM
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I think I know which vendor is selling this diamond, what is their verdict on it?  It appears to have potential, but I personally would want the opinions of the good people at the vendors as to how it looks in reality.









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Posted:  3/16/2008 12:12:40 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:18:58 PM
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Date: 3/16/2008 12:12:40 PM
Author: Lorelei
I think I know which vendor is selling this diamond, what is their verdict on it? It appears to have potential, but I personally would want the opinions of the good people at the vendors as to how it looks in reality.
Yes.

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:18:58 PM
P: 3/16/2008 12:28:52 PM
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Rough Rock
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they say it looks good in person and I know they have a great reputation.  I guess you put your trust in them :) 
All these numbers and percents are new to me and you guys are so knowledgeable I wanted other feedback. 



There are so many threads about how an AGS 0 doesn't always mean a a great stone and sometimes scores low on the HCA. I just want to get the most beautiful diamond I can afford!!!!!

Posted:  3/16/2008 12:28:52 PM
P: 3/21/2008 10:22:40 AM
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Rough Rock
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what is the average diameter for a 2.10 carat round diamond?



Thanks

Posted:  3/21/2008 10:22:40 AM

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