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 HELP!! Please! Fisheye?!?!

P:  7/14/2003 12:29:31 PM  
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Rough Rock
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Please inform me as to if this diamond is a fisheye.
Here is the GIA report
7.58-7.64 x4.55mm
Weight: 1.61ct
Depth: 59.8%
Table:64%
Girdle:Medium to thick faceted
Culet: none
Girdle: medium to thick
Color: H
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Clarity: VS1
Fluorescence: medium blue

 


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Posted:  7/14/2003 12:29:31 PM

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P: 7/14/2003 12:46:02 PM
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Crown and pav angles from a Sarin would be helpful, then someone can run it through the DiamCalc for you and it will 'estimate' your fish-eye effect.

Or maybe an expert in the industry can pipe in with what their thoughts are on the info given? Did you SEE a fish-eye when you viewed the stone? The table is a little large (even for my taste!), so this may not be the best cut stone...post more info if you can.

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Posted:  7/14/2003 12:46:02 PM
P: 7/14/2003 1:55:18 PM
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Rough Rock
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It would be great if someone else could put their two cents in also. I would really appreciate it. This ia all the info given to me. I sparkles like crazy, but at times, in strong fluorescent lighting looks a bit opaque. How do I go about getting the other measurements? I am not sure if I see a fish eye, it is hard to tell. And I HAVE been reading up and looking at examples. Again, all help is truly appreciated. Thanks

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Posted:  7/14/2003 1:55:18 PM
P: 7/14/2003 3:04:47 PM
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Having a pavilion angle would help of course to be sure.

I played with different combination of pavilion angles, 64% table and 59.8% depth on Diamond Calculator. It is rather unlikely for this stone to be a fisheye. Most probably it is just a heavy, deep make.

Try to tilt the stone slightly to see whether you can see girdle reflection under the table. If you have to tilt it more than 5 degrees, it is not a fisheye.



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Posted:  7/14/2003 3:04:47 PM
P: 7/14/2003 3:30:13 PM
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Rough Rock
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Thanks. How can I determine pavillion depths? Who should I bring this to? Is this a GOOD stone?

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Posted:  7/14/2003 3:30:13 PM
P: 7/14/2003 6:08:42 PM
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Why don't you post a picture of it.

Posted:  7/14/2003 6:08:42 PM
P: 7/14/2003 7:21:53 PM
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Unsure,

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How can I determine pavillion depths? Who should I bring this to?
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You might want to show it to independen appraiser.

You also can ask your vendor to get Sarin or Ogi measurements for the stone.

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Is this a GOOD stone?
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It is not an ideal cut for sure. You should decide for yourself whether you like it and whether the price is fair for its quality.



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Posted:  7/14/2003 7:21:53 PM
P: 7/15/2003 9:09:01 AM
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Rough Rock
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Thanks for the info. I am not too familiar with the going rates for THIS diamond. Based on the stats, what is your estimate of what would be a fair price? I just want to make sure I am not getting robbed.

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Posted:  7/15/2003 9:09:01 AM
P: 7/15/2003 9:15:43 AM
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Color would be helpful.

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Giangi

Posted:  7/15/2003 9:15:43 AM
P: 7/15/2003 9:35:03 AM
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Rough Rock
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Giangi- sorry, I thought I had posted it. I just edited the post. Color is H. Thanks for your help. I just want peace of mind. And to be honest, it is very hard to trust the sales people. Most do not have any clue as helping you with cut. I was told that this was a well cut diamond. Again, if you could give me an estimate of a fair price, I would really appreciate it.

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Posted:  7/15/2003 9:35:03 AM
P: 7/15/2003 10:00:50 AM
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My guess would be about $9,000-$9,500 (give or take a few 100s).

Have you compared these stones to others? You might want to compare it to ideal or just well cut stone.



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Posted:  7/15/2003 10:00:50 AM
P: 7/15/2003 10:31:01 AM
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Rough Rock
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THANKS!

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Posted:  7/15/2003 10:31:01 AM
P: 7/15/2003 11:05:14 AM
Giangi
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I'd say $9-10K depending on where you buy it.
Diamonds with 64% table can be very attractive if well proportioned and can display a great deal of white light.

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Giangi

Posted:  7/15/2003 11:05:14 AM

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