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 Pendant size vs. engagement ring / studs size?

P:  2/16/2008 6:39:52 PM  
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Just out of curiosity... Is there a riule of thumb for choosing a solitaire pendant size so that it doesn't seem lost or overpower an engagement ring or stud earrings?

For those that were following my recent earring purchase, I'm definitely not planning on purchasing anything else in the near future, just gathering inforamtion for a rainy day...   I have a wedding band and honeymoon to pay for coming up, so I think the wedding budget is maxed out now. LOL.

Oh, my FI's engagement ring is RB 2.37ct E, and her stud earrings are RB 1.8tcw F's...


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P: 2/16/2008 6:52:31 PM
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no real *rules* exactly. my personally preference is for earrings and/or a pendant to be 1/2 the carat weight of the e-ring or less. I'd probably make the pendant just a touch larger than the earrings, so if the earrings are .90 each, I'd make the pendant 1 carat or a touch larger than a carat.





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Posted:  2/16/2008 6:52:31 PM
P: 2/16/2008 7:13:45 PM
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oh, since I dont know anything about pendants except the last 30 minutes I spent searching this forum on them--do they all fip?  What are the right size chains to get etc?

What style would go best with her set?  She has WF 3 prong martini earrings in platinum, and her e-ring is a 6 prong SC Tiffany replica in platinum...

Posted:  2/16/2008 7:13:45 PM
P: 2/17/2008 11:47:15 AM
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Posted:  2/17/2008 11:47:15 AM
P: 2/17/2008 12:59:11 PM
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I agree with MrsSalvo. Not that I could buy whatever size stones I'd like, but my e-ring is 1 ct., my pendant is .41 ct (bezeled), and my earrings are 1/3ctw (also bezeled, coming in the mail!).

Posted:  2/17/2008 12:59:11 PM
P: 2/17/2008 1:06:20 PM
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There are "rules," but for many, like me, it'd be impossible to go by those rules mainly because I wanted bigger earrings, but didn't want to upgrade my eng. stone to create what many have determined to be the appropriate sizes.  My pendant, earrings, and eng. stone are all about the same size and I'm happy with that   I do not think anyone has noticed. 

I have both a bezel (tiffany by the yards thin bezel style) and a four prong setting that is attached to the chain (the four-corners style from WF) and the bezel flips all the time, but the four-prong one doesn't, but it tips down and chain sinks back and the diamond ends up in the hollow of my neck.  Even when it's at that angle, it still sparkles, so I decided that it's just what it does and it's still the style I like best.  I would suspect a larger, heavier diamond would hold the chain in place better.  My four prong pendant is .41 and the bezel one is .38.

If I were you, I'd get the martini pendant to match.  My earrings & pendant match and I like having a set especially since my eng. ring/wedding band are a very different style.

Posted:  2/17/2008 1:06:20 PM
P: 2/17/2008 1:41:55 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 1:06:20 PM
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There are 'rules,' but for many, like me, it'd be impossible to go by those rules mainly because I wanted bigger earrings, but didn't want to upgrade my eng. stone to create what many have determined to be the appropriate sizes. My pendant, earrings, and eng. stone are all about the same size and I'm happy with that I do not think anyone has noticed.

I have both a bezel (tiffany by the yards thin bezel style) and a four prong setting that is attached to the chain (the four-corners style from WF) and the bezel flips all the time, but the four-prong one doesn't, but it tips down and chain sinks back and the diamond ends up in the hollow of my neck. Even when it's at that angle, it still sparkles, so I decided that it's just what it does and it's still the style I like best. I would suspect a larger, heavier diamond would hold the chain in place better. My four prong pendant is .41 and the bezel one is .38.

If I were you, I'd get the martini pendant to match. My earrings & pendant match and I like having a set especially since my eng. ring/wedding band are a very different style.

I saw the martini style one... both that and the 4 proing bezel only seem to go to 1ct... The 4 corners one doesnt seem to have a limit of ct size?  Or is it moot, since I probably shouldnt go bigger than 1ct for a pendant anyhow?

hmm..

Oh, does the back of a pendant itch or something?  I imagine a martii point might poke on es neck constantly...

Posted:  2/17/2008 1:41:55 PM
P: 2/17/2008 1:54:19 PM
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I always liked the pendant half the size of the e-ring.  And the earrings half the size of that.  Like if you have a 2 carat e-ring, then a 1 carat pendant and 1 ctw. earrings. 

Or a 3 carat e-ring, with 1.5 to 2 carat pendant, with 1.5 to 2 carat tw. earrings.  Yes, that sounds good, I will now put that on my wishlist,,,,,

Oh, but if it is a colored pendant or earrings, then I think a larger size pendant is fine, but I still think the earrings should be half the size or a third the size of the pendant.

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Posted:  2/17/2008 1:54:19 PM
P: 2/17/2008 2:10:16 PM
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I like my pendant to be the same size as my ering (1/2 ct) and my studs are 3/4 ctw so they are slightly smaller.

I think it is all personal preference too.



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Posted:  2/17/2008 2:10:16 PM
P: 2/17/2008 2:23:04 PM
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Interesting question ... I'm not sure about proportions but it does seem like it should be :

largest: ering
next: pendant
last: ind. studs.

In your fiance's case ... maybe a 1ct to 1.25 ish carat pendant would be "right" -- HOWEVER, personally I think its a bit flat or predictable or matchy-matchy to have a solitare e-ring, martini studs AND a solitare pendant. Even though a solitare pendant is "classic" alone -- all "classic" pieces starts to get a bit dull. (JMHO)

The pendant may be where you shake things up a bit --- maybe a halo'd stone ... or a DBTY strand instead of a single pendant ... or a different shape stone entirely ... like an East/West set Emerald Cut diamond (that's my dream).

Don't get me wrong -- I think the pieces you've picked out so far are PHENOMENAL!!! Every gal on here would ACHE for such lovelies. But its this NEXT piece that sets a tone of "all classic" or "eclectic" and your lady, from the pix at least, looks like she has some SPUNK/STYLE.

Posted:  2/17/2008 2:23:04 PM
P: 2/17/2008 2:31:24 PM
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I think this is a great topic!  I didn't know there was such rules or anything.  I just thing the e-ring should be the center of attention when diamonds are concerned (different story for gemstones).  I won't buy a piece of diamond jewelry (solitare wise) larger than my e-ring, I know that restricts me some, but it's just my personal preference. 

Great topic!

Posted:  2/17/2008 2:31:24 PM
P: 2/17/2008 2:52:02 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 2:23:04 PM
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Interesting question ... I'm not sure about proportions but it does seem like it should be :

largest: ering
next: pendant
last: ind. studs.

In your fiance's case ... maybe a 1ct to 1.25 ish carat pendant would be 'right' -- HOWEVER, personally I think its a bit flat or predictable or matchy-matchy to have a solitare e-ring, martini studs AND a solitare pendant. Even though a solitare pendant is 'classic' alone -- all 'classic' pieces starts to get a bit dull. (JMHO)

The pendant may be where you shake things up a bit --- maybe a halo'd stone ... or a DBTY strand instead of a single pendant ... or a different shape stone entirely ... like an East/West set Emerald Cut diamond (that's my dream).

Don't get me wrong -- I think the pieces you've picked out so far are PHENOMENAL!!! Every gal on here would ACHE for such lovelies. But its this NEXT piece that sets a tone of 'all classic' or 'eclectic' and your lady, from the pix at least, looks like she has some SPUNK/STYLE.


that's an interesting thought...  was just talking with her sister about this and she mentioned the 4 corner type-Tiffany setting, because it would match... But I like this line of thinking too...  My only concern is IF i get her a pendant, it would be the wedding present gift, and thus I wouldn't want it to be too out there... maybe this one should be the "classic" and after she has this, then we could branch out into eclectic for anniversary stuff etc...

oh, and I was doing a bit of searching and saw someone mention that a pendant should be equal to the tcw of stud earrings... In this case it would be 1.8 ct pendant... Does that seem too big / too much?    Is 1-1.5ct where she should be?  

Posted:  2/17/2008 2:52:02 PM
P: 2/17/2008 3:08:30 PM
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sna77  I just want to say you are AWESOME!  I wish my hubby liked to give me jewelry (he's more of a CD/DVD guy), your FI is lucky.  I think it's great you even take the time to know your stuff!  And sweet that you ask her sister too.

Sorry I didn't answer your question... just wanted to add my $0.02

Posted:  2/17/2008 3:08:30 PM
P: 2/17/2008 3:11:04 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 2:52:02 PM
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oh, and I was doing a bit of searching and saw someone mention that a pendant should be equal to the tcw of stud earrings... In this case it would be 1.8 ct pendant... Does that seem too big / too much? Is 1-1.5ct where she should be?
1.8 ct seems HUGE.  It depends a lot upon her build too.  Taller women look more proportionate with larger pendants. . . JMO  Also, would she be wearing the pendant every day WITH the earrings?  Maybe consider something more casual for day-to-day???  Be sure to get the pendant insured as the WF chains are very light weight.

Posted:  2/17/2008 3:11:04 PM
P: 2/17/2008 3:12:32 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 3:11:04 PM
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1.8 ct seems HUGE. It depends a lot upon her build too. Taller women look more proportionate with larger pendants. . . JMO


ok... she's 5' so i may need to rethink that... hah.  Sounds like 1 - 1.5 ct max would be the right answer... 

I imagine I'd stick with the same E-F color to match...    Clarity wise... Is it more / ;ess or equally important on a pendant?  i.e. would an SI 1 be more noticeable on a pendant than a ring because everyone is constantly looking at th next line, whereas the hand is constantly in motion and people are only directly staring at it if they ask to see the ring??

Posted:  2/17/2008 3:12:32 PM
P: 2/17/2008 5:11:55 PM
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I think a 1ct in a Tiffany Diamonds By The Yard (elsa perreti) style bezel would be PERFECTION ... a tish different that the ring & earrings, the bezel plumps up the look of the stone so you could do 1ct & have the surface area of a 1.25 or 1.5 ct ... Color, yeah go "F" if it gonna be close to the earrings that are F (or G might be okay) ... and clarity FOR SURE isn't as imp. on pendants as rings. Especially if its an ideal cut RB stone.

For some reason I just don't like the "stone dangling on a chain" necklaces as well. Its so bare and - eh - to me it looks unfinished or (hate to say it) cheapish. JUST MY OPINION. There are beautiful ones, ones I'd take in a heartbeat but it's a GENERAL bias I have against martini or four-prong baskety type pendants. Blah. Spare. Etc.
Whereas I LOVE LOVE LOVE bezel pendants.

Length of chain is another issue -- does she want the nestle in the hollow of her throat choker look ... or a longer, wear with V-neck tops type deal. I think chokers look best on petite gals & work with the max of outfits, necklines. In that case it might be a 15" chain ... or 16 with a loop for tightening.

Check out the pendants that Giada DeLaurentis wears on all the covers of her books & in other still photos. She has a similar frame & coloring to your later (and both are gorgeous!) Her style is very classic/elegant/moneyed. (Again, IMHO).

Posted:  2/17/2008 5:11:55 PM
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Found a pix of the grouping of necklaces Giada wears ... just one is lovely too ... this is a good reference for size & shape & lengths etc ...
 

 

Posted:  2/17/2008 5:20:53 PM
P: 2/17/2008 6:14:42 PM
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There aren't any rules, but I generally tell people to buy pendants and earrings that aren't bigger than their e-ring.  I also think it's better to have the pendant slightly larger than each earring, but it doesn't really matter. 

Posted:  2/17/2008 6:14:42 PM
P: 2/17/2008 7:12:54 PM
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I don't think it matters either. Just go with what you can afford.

Posted:  2/17/2008 7:12:54 PM
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Yeah I don't think I would put too much thought into it either. I would just get what I like

Posted:  2/17/2008 7:16:32 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 3:12:32 PM
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I imagine I'd stick with the same E-F color to match... Clarity wise... Is it more / ;ess or equally important on a pendant? i.e. would an SI 1 be more noticeable on a pendant than a ring because everyone is constantly looking at th next line, whereas the hand is constantly in motion and people are only directly staring at it if they ask to see the ring??
An SI1 would be ideal as long as the stone is well cut and eye clean from the top view.  When the pendant is worn, nobody will see it from the side, so there is no fear that inclusions will be evident to anyone.

Posted:  2/17/2008 7:18:50 PM
P: 2/17/2008 7:32:23 PM
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1-1.5cts for a pendant seem proportionate to me :)

I really think Sna you need to have a word to my BF :P, your FI is one lucky lady :)




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Posted:  2/17/2008 7:32:23 PM
P: 2/17/2008 7:50:21 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 6:14:42 PM
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There aren't any rules, but I generally tell people to buy pendants and earrings that aren't bigger than their e-ring. I also think it's better to have the pendant slightly larger than each earring, but it doesn't really matter.


Haha, I definitely would not buy a pendant nicer than her e-ring.. I dont want anything to show that up... Plus a 2.5ct pendant would be absurd...  =)

Posted:  2/17/2008 7:50:21 PM
P: 2/17/2008 8:28:38 PM
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just checked out the Tiffany Diamonds by The Yard, and it looks just like the WF full bezel pendant and showed her sister... Got this response: "That's exactly what mine looks like."

I think I may need to go another direction here... They both have almost identical engagement rings / wedding bands, and I just noticed their stud earrings are almost an exact match... Luckily they live in different states or they'd look like they shop at the same store exclusivelly... haha

Do you have problems with your bezel flipping?  that seems to be the complaint with them so far...

Also, I think I'll have to have her try on different lengths to see what style she likes best...

Posted:  2/17/2008 8:28:38 PM
P: 2/17/2008 9:18:30 PM
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My weights are:

1.14 engagement ring
0.53 pendant
0.72ctw earrings (but they are under 60% depth each and look like at least 0.75ctw)

It's a good ratio for me.

Posted:  2/17/2008 9:18:30 PM
P: 2/17/2008 9:51:19 PM
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I also agree with what most everyone has said already: e-ring > pendant > single earring stone

My personal choice would be a bezel set pendant (like the Elsa Peretti one at T&Co), but if you want to do something different from what her sister has (and don't want to worry about flipping), I would also think about one with a pave halo (a la Ritani Endless Love).  I don't think that would be too non-classic, and it would be different from her solitaire e-ring and martini-set earrings.  Besides, if you got her somewhere in between 1.0-1.5 cts, it would look HUGE!

Posted:  2/17/2008 9:51:19 PM
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OR how about one of the Daniel K closeout pendants from Pearlmans?!  http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-specials/closeout-jewelry/necklaces/049CO3/8/

No specs or descriptions yet, but it looks like there are 4 halo'ed round pendants!

Posted:  2/17/2008 9:56:19 PM
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pendant 3x diameter and a colored gemstone
earring tcw of .75 x ering middle stone weight

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  2/17/2008 9:57:01 PM
P: 2/17/2008 10:05:36 PM
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Date: 2/17/2008 9:56:19 PM
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OR how about one of the Daniel K closeout pendants from Pearlmans?! http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-specials/closeout-jewelry/necklaces/049CO3/8/

No specs or descriptions yet, but it looks like there are 4 halo'ed round pendants!

interesting... could be interesting too... Is basically anything heavier going to flip?  i.e the beze set or something like this...

hmm... I guess I need to head to B&M stores to have her try things on... We have to go to Tiffany in a few weeks when our bands come in and I'll have her try on a few different styles...  Oh, we ordered a matching set of Lucidia bands in Platinum from Tiffany.  I knew that was what I'd wanted, and I wanted to get her a plain band too... We got hers a bit big, in size 4 (she's a 3.5), so she could wear while pregnanet, or going to the gym (swelling fingers, etc)...

So much for the "something new" surprise...  Actually, joint checking accounts have pretty much taken any "suprise" purchase away anyhow. LOL

Posted:  2/17/2008 10:05:36 PM
P: 2/17/2008 10:06:33 PM
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oh, pic of the Pearlman's halo type pendant...
 

 

Posted:  2/17/2008 10:06:33 PM
P: 2/17/2008 10:19:27 PM
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I don't think the Daniel K is going to flip...  You can probably ask Bill to be certain.  I think for the thin bezel set style, it just depends on what type of bezel the stone is in.  For example, I think the Tiffanys one flips because the bezel is only around the girdle and the culet of the stone is exposed.  Then again, if you decided to go with the bezel style but don't go with Tiffanys, you can work with your vendor to make sure the setting is more flip resistant...if that makes sense.

BTW, the Daniel K is gorgeous.  If I hadn't just spent all that $ on a new Michael B set, I would be asking DH for one right about now. 

Posted:  2/17/2008 10:19:27 PM

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