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| P: 7/9/2003 1:34:11 PM | |
Tyrrell Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 7/14/2003 Member Since: 7/9/2003 |
I'm looking at buying a diamond. One of the ones that I am considering (at a local jewler wher I have a friend working) is a clarity VS2 color K just over 1 carrot stone that is an old miners cut. I don't know any of the proportions. How much less does the rest of the world think that this stone is worth than a more modern cut of a nearly identical stone?
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| Posted: 7/9/2003 1:34:11 PM | |
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| P: 7/9/2003 2:01:10 PM | |
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,681 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
Oh lovely! How lucky you are. I wish I had a definitely answer for you. From my impression of the market, it seems rather variable. Some jewelers actually use the same prices as with modern diamonds. I suspect Beverly Hills jewelers sell them as "antiques" and price them way over what the rest of the country does. The OMC I have is an H color, VS2, .96 and I bought it for under $3K (sorry, I can't remember how much under). That, though, is, from what I've seen, an exceptionally low price. I think you shouldn't pay as much as you would for a modern diamond, so if no experts can give you advice, perhaps you can look up what a poorly-cut, similar color & clarity goes for and either use that price or see if you can bargain down 10% or more. Good luck and please let us know what you uncover!
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| Posted: 7/9/2003 2:01:10 PM | |
| P: 7/10/2003 6:12:50 AM | |
mdx Ideal Rock Total Posts: 570 Last Post: 11/29/2007 Member Since: 3/1/2002 |
Hi Tyrrell Here are some old miner price indicators from a New York wholesaler adjusted to average Internet vendor price. Hope this helps. Any one of the pricescope vendors would be able to source one for you if required Regards Wayne Diamond Exchange Ltd. (Australia) |
| Posted: 7/10/2003 6:12:50 AM | |
| P: 7/10/2003 6:19:25 AM | |
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mdx Ideal Rock Total Posts: 570 Last Post: 11/29/2007 Member Since: 3/1/2002 |
Lets Try again,something went wrong CTS COL CLA LAB DEP TAB MEASURE PRICE/CT 1.23 J SI2 EGL 95.5 56 6.34-5.32x5.08 $2,205.28 1.23 M VS2 EGL 73.7 44 6.51-6.36x4.69 $1,680.00 1.2 K SI1 EGL 60.4 52 7.02-6.46x3.90 $2,212.00 1.17 I SI3 EGL 75.6 54 6.61-5.89x4.45 $2,205.28 1.16 M I2 EGL 78.6 51 6.64-5.84x4.59 $812.00 1.15 F SI2 EGL 6360 48 5.94-6.70x4.02 $3,444.00 1.15 K SI1 EGL 73.3 56 6.55-5.84x4.28 $2,021.60 1.09 I S13 EGL 74.1 61 6.34-5.63x4.17 $2,576.00 1.08 H I1 EGL 6040 53 6.61-6.07x3.83 $1,685.60 1.06 FY VS2 GIA 72.4 50 6.01-6.36x4.48 $5,040.00 1.05 I VS2 GIA 74 50 6.31-5.51x4.08 $3,612.00 1.04 K VS2 EGL 74.6 56 6.46-5.62x4.19 $2,345.28 1.02 K VS2 EGL 82.1 51 6.47-5.31x4.36 $2,352.00 1 H SI2 EGL 73.3 54 5.38-6.03x4.42 $2,660.00 Diamond Exchange Ltd. (Australia) |
| Posted: 7/10/2003 6:19:25 AM | |
| P: 7/11/2003 7:40:26 AM | |
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Tyrrell Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 7/14/2003 Member Since: 7/9/2003 |
Thank you for your replys Sadly I'm not sufficently versed in diamondese to interpret all of the information in your post (I studied minneralogy in my master's program but dropped out my PhD program just before I was to TA the class on Gems). I have got my hands on a sheet of paper from the diamond supplier from whom the Jewler got the stone. It says; 1.02Ct shape and cut- round brilliant Diameter 6.36-6.53 Crown angle 34.5 ID Crown Height 17.1% EX Pavil angle 41.6 Ex Pavil Depth 42.6% EX Culet 3.1% EX Table size 50.5% VG Total Depth 62.8%, 4.05mm Girdle thickness% 0.4- 1.3 v.thin-medium ID Proportion very good Symmetry fair polish fair clairty VS2 color L Fluoressence none Comments: old mine cut Is this sufficent information for me to use to get a good understanding of the reasonable price of the gem to make certain the the jewlry store isn't taking advantage of my "it's an engagement ring, I don't care about price" attitiude. (Yes my friend is the manager of the store but the store is part of a chain and she's not worked anyplace else. She'll get me the best price that she can but I'd like to make certain that her overhead isn't killing me. Giving her one or two hundred extra dollars is ok an extra thousand would be bad) If this is enough information is there a website that has a calculater that I can use? (Or you could be really nice and just post a well supported opinion.) Thanks for your help
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| Posted: 7/11/2003 7:40:26 AM | |
| P: 7/11/2003 6:44:27 PM | |
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mdx Ideal Rock Total Posts: 570 Last Post: 11/29/2007 Member Since: 3/1/2002 |
Hi Tyrrel Sorry about the confusion The specs on the stone look about average for an OMC. As a price guideline based on the New York wholesale price you should be paying around $2300.00 from an Internet vendor. I suppose its unlikely that a chain store would match an Internet vendor so use this price indicator as a good low price. Wayne Diamond Exchange Ltd. (Australia) |
| Posted: 7/11/2003 6:44:27 PM | |
| P: 7/14/2003 7:15:55 AM | |
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Tyrrell Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 7/14/2003 Member Since: 7/9/2003 |
Thanks Wayne, your help is very much appreciated.
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| Posted: 7/14/2003 7:15:55 AM | |
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