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P:  2/4/2008 10:35:13 AM  
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Hi,

I have read a reasonable amount of threads on here so dont need the online vs Tiffany debates to start again please :) I am just wondering what the price difference is between Tiffany New York and Tiffany London for diamond rings.. does anyone have any recent experience of this?

Thanks in advance.

 


Posted:  2/4/2008 10:35:13 AM

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P: 2/4/2008 11:19:46 AM
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With prices changing all the time with both metals and diamonds, I'd just call and get quotes. That's probably the most reliable info, in case no one responds.

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Posted:  2/4/2008 11:19:46 AM
P: 2/4/2008 12:22:45 PM
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Obviously Ellen's right, and the most accurate information will come directly from them. However, in the meantime, just wanted to share this:

Based on the price guidelines that used to be on the websites, it's more than twice as expensive to buy in London, if you figure in the current exchange rate. This is based purely from memory, so it could be wrong, but I think the US site used to say that their 1 ct. stones in the Tiffany six-prong setting started around $7000. I believe the UK site said their 1 ct. stones in that setting started at £8000.

Considering $7000=(about) £3500, I'd without a doubt buy from a US Tiffany's.

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Posted:  2/4/2008 12:22:45 PM
P: 2/4/2008 12:52:51 PM
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Thanks, looks like I will be hoping on a plane to NY for the weekend then.

Shame the exchange rate has gone in the wrong direction (for me) the last couple of months, but its still pretty good compared to anything before the middle of last year

Posted:  2/4/2008 12:52:51 PM
P: 2/4/2008 12:55:00 PM
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Yeah, tell me about it. I'm an American with US student loans, studying in the UK for the year. NOT working out money-wise very well, as my loans came out when the exchange was at its worst...

Which ring is it that you have your eye on at T&Co?

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Posted:  2/4/2008 12:55:00 PM
P: 2/4/2008 1:01:26 PM
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Date: 2/4/2008 12:22:45 PM
Author: gwendolyn
Obviously Ellen's right, and the most accurate information will come directly from them. However, in the meantime, just wanted to share this:

Based on the price guidelines that used to be on the websites, it's more than twice as expensive to buy in London, if you figure in the current exchange rate. This is based purely from memory, so it could be wrong, but I think the US site used to say that their 1 ct. stones in the Tiffany six-prong setting started around $7000. I believe the UK site said their 1 ct. stones in that setting started at £8000.

Considering $7000=(about) £3500, I'd without a doubt buy from a US Tiffany's.
Good lord, that's just rediculous.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/4/2008 1:01:26 PM
P: 2/4/2008 1:09:55 PM
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Date: 2/4/2008 1:01:26 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 2/4/2008 12:22:45 PM

Author: gwendolyn

Obviously Ellen's right, and the most accurate information will come directly from them. However, in the meantime, just wanted to share this:


Based on the price guidelines that used to be on the websites, it's more than twice as expensive to buy in London, if you figure in the current exchange rate. This is based purely from memory, so it could be wrong, but I think the US site used to say that their 1 ct. stones in the Tiffany six-prong setting started around $7000. I believe the UK site said their 1 ct. stones in that setting started at £8000.


Considering $7000=(about) £3500, I'd without a doubt buy from a US Tiffany's.
Good lord, that's just rediculous.

It's based on memory, so it could be inaccurate, but the reason I'm reasonably sure it's close to being right is that I remember thinking at first, "Oh, the price in London is just a bit higher than in New York" and being pleasantly surprised, and THEN realizing the London prices were in pounds and (with the current exchange rate), made the same exact ring almost three times as expensive!

So, on the exchange rate alone, I'd say to just go to NY and buy it there. Even with the VAT payable upon entering the UK again (for UK residents), it'll save a TON of money.

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Out of Context Theatre presents...ladypirate: "Gwen, you would make a terrible medieval catholic priest!"

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Posted:  2/4/2008 1:09:55 PM
P: 2/4/2008 2:29:14 PM
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Date: 2/4/2008 10:35:13 AM
Author:mutage
Hi,

I have read a reasonable amount of threads on here so dont need the online vs Tiffany debates to start again please :) I am just wondering what the price difference is between Tiffany New York and Tiffany London for diamond rings.. does anyone have any recent experience of this?

Thanks in advance.

I have noticed everything that costs in the US X Dollars..., costs X Pounds in the UK..., be it jewelry or clothes or.............???

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Posted:  2/4/2008 2:29:14 PM
P: 2/4/2008 3:29:15 PM
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Not everything, but a lot of things. The usual factors people bring up are US prices quoted dont usually include tax, but UK prices do (17.5%) and also import duty. The other factor is the exchange rate - people dont update their prices a whole lot and when they do they wont lower the UK price incase the fx rate changes back.

I am looking for a .75 carat Etoile - i am waiting for them to get back to me with some details of what they have.

Posted:  2/4/2008 3:29:15 PM
P: 2/4/2008 5:14:00 PM
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There's a huge difference between them. I live in Ireland and got my ring in the NY store. As we don't have a Tiffanys here, I had to get my valuation from the London Tiffanys and it was £6000 more than what we paid for it. I would definitely get it in the NY store. You can get your ring and have a lovely holiday for less than the price of what you would pay at home.

Posted:  2/4/2008 5:14:00 PM
P: 2/4/2008 5:17:50 PM
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I live in the US and just got some spec numbers today for .7-.8 ct low color(H) and clarity (VS2) Etoile Solitaires.  Lowest price was $8400, highest was $11,000.  So, yea, 7K will definitely not get you a full carat anymore at Tiffany, especially not in the Etoile!  I don't know if you've tried the Etoile in that stone size, but even for a person like me wo loves chunky rings, there's something about the roundiness and thickness of the shank that isn't very flattering on the hand.  A half carat Etoile is just about perfect.  Check out Kats' ring on here if you get a chance. Just my two cents (I was trying some on yesterday!).

Posted:  2/4/2008 5:17:50 PM
P: 2/4/2008 6:17:42 PM
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Really? That doesnt seem as cheap as others are making out..

For comparison there is one in London - .67 F VS2 with excellent cut for £5500 (about $11000)
and another .73 H VVS1 for £6000 (about $12000)

Do you have anything more specific?

Posted:  2/4/2008 6:17:42 PM
P: 2/4/2008 6:24:35 PM
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My numbers were on the six-prong Tiffany setting, not the Etoile, but it's still twice as expensive. *shrugs* Your money, spend it where you want.

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US Reception: May 30th, 2010!

Out of Context Theatre presents...ladypirate: "Gwen, you would make a terrible medieval catholic priest!"

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-Jonathan Safran Foer, 'Everything Is Illuminated'

Posted:  2/4/2008 6:24:35 PM
P: 2/5/2008 10:41:23 AM
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Ring specs I was given for the Etoile solitaire in Platinum:

.71 H VS1 $8700
.70 H VS2 $8400
.81 H VVS2 $11,200

Of course, I don't have the details of the cut, but usually they are really good (perhaps not the *best* by pricescope standards!).

Posted:  2/5/2008 10:41:23 AM
P: 2/6/2008 5:09:08 AM
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thanks

I have now spoken to Tiffany NY so have some comparisons, just for other people who may search on this later...

London - 0.67 F VS1 with excellent cut - about 5500gbp
NY - 0.63 F VS1 (unknown cut) - 7700usd which is about 4350gbp taking NY sales tax into account and about 5350gbp taking UK import duty and VAT into account (if you declare it) - also this is a slightly smaller ring and cut might not be as good.

So if you are totally honest and declare it, you are paying roughly the same.. otherwise you are saving a bit, but its not quite dollar to pound that it might have been at some point in the past.

Posted:  2/6/2008 5:09:08 AM
P: 2/6/2008 7:01:59 AM
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Blimey - thats some mark up!

when you consider you can get this 0.7 F VS1 for $3700! add $1000 for a platinum setting... and your talking £2800 all taxes paid! (nearly £2000 cheaper)


(sorry i know you didnt want a online/tiffany thing... but thats amazing!)

ps isnt the US tax rules something along the lines of if your staying out of state (say your hotel is in New Jersey) then you dont pay the NY sales tax... or you can get a refund... which would make the US ring about £4600 all taxes paid on entry to the UK

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Posted:  2/6/2008 7:01:59 AM
P: 2/6/2008 11:35:49 AM
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I have noticed a substantial difference between NY and London prices at Tiffany and many other stores.

On the sales tax: yes if he purchases the stone in NY and has it shipped to a low/no sales tax state he pays only those taxes applied in the state the ring is shipped to.  Difficult to chase the ring all over the US though, and he needs some address that can actually receive the item.

Alternatively he could buy from a Tiffany store in a state that has no sales tax to start with.  I think Oregon is like this, maybe other PSers know other states.  He could call and have some suitable stones shipped to the non sales tax store.

Or, are US sales taxes subtractable from his VAT?

Posted:  2/6/2008 11:35:49 AM

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