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OK, New topic on finger size and coverage

P: 1/21/2008 10:51:33 PM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	So from my previous thread I was convinced that I would get a sapphire center (still thinking about it alot) in a larger size and then go a custom Leon (or something like it) halo setting. Well I'm definitely now obsessing about a future upgrade and is it wise to get a smaller diamond in a spectacular halo and then upgrade the stone on an anniversary or in the near future? For our $4K budget (or slightly over) what kind of finger coverage do you think I might get with this setting and this stone from James Allen -- my chubby size 9 fingers require something with great spread but I don't want a really thick band: https://www.jamesallen.com/shop_bag.asp?rem=108050 Thoughts? Would this setting give me coverage that might span a 2 carat ring with it's fantastic double halo? Thank you for indulging my indicision 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:51:33 PM

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P: 1/21/2008 10:53:53 PM
Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005	Sorry, your link is to your shopping bag! Can't wait to see the setting! ____________________________________________________________________________________ "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one"
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:53:53 PM

P: 1/21/2008 10:54:22 PM
coatimundi_org Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,312 Last Post: 6/7/2009 Member Since: 12/9/2007	link isn't working--want to see! really like the idea of upgrade though! Coati, G.G.
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:54:22 PM

P: 1/21/2008 10:54:24 PM
*DeeJay** Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,491 Last Post: 9/23/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2006	I don't see anything when I click on the link...
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:54:24 PM

P: 1/21/2008 10:59:37 PM
milton333 Cut Rock Total Posts: 218 Last Post: 6/27/2008 Member Since: 11/8/2007	The link did not work for me. FWIW, I think that there's an element to finger size that is not often discussed. I think it's not just about finger circumference, but also about the distance between the base of your finger and the first knuckle up. In my opinion, lots of ladies with very thin fingers also tend to have very long fingers. Even if the diamond covers space from side to side, I still tend to think that all of the space between knuckle and base of finger contributes to the perception of coverage. Given the way your fingers draw your eye from base to tip, I think the size between knuckle and base plays a big, overlooked role. I honestly think that it helps to have short, stubby fingers, even if they are a bit wider. My fingers are size 6-6.5 ish (smaller now in the winter, swollen a bit in the humidity of the summer). With my e-ring and a channel-set, .5 carat 1/2 eternity band (3 mm wide), probably 3/4 of the space between my knuckle and the base of my finger is covered. From side to side, the diamond is maybe not huge, but I honestly think my almost-carat looks proportionately the same size on my stubby fingers as many 1.5 carats do on ladies with slimmer but longer fingers. My .02.
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:59:37 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:00:52 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	You usually wouldn't get a halo setting if you were planning on upgrading the stone. A halo is made for a specific size stone and you couldn't put a larger stone in it, in most cases. One option is to get the sapphire ring now and then later for an anniversary, you could get a diamond ring and wear the sapphire ring on your right hand. Or get the diamond halo now and get a larger solitaire later and wear the diamond halo on your right hand. The other option is to get a smaller diamond now in a simple setting from a vendor with lifetime upgrade and wait and get the upgrade diamond and custom halo setting in a few years when finances allow. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:00:52 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:10:20 PM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	Sorry about the dead link! -- Here is the ring: http://www.jamesallen.com/products/item_412-1962_build.asp?module=setting and here is the stone: http://www.jamesallen.com/products/item_412-1962_build.asp?cid=412&module=diamond&item=860678 thoughts? 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:10:20 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:18:08 PM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	Milton333 -- that's a very interesting thought on the ring size -- though my hands are short-ish, there is easily 3/4 of an inch between the base of my ring finger and my first knuckly. I have a few large cocktail rings that give great coverage -- one is a 2.9 carat yellow center with .6 carat trillion sides -- it's the exact coverage i would love with my e-ring. Still leaning towards a sapphire for that totally unique, different look. but that james allen setting sort of rocked my world and i though -- hmmm, if I go lower in stone size with a double halo will i get the same look in all diamonds as opposed to mixing colored stone? Anywhoo, welcome any thoughts! thanks! 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:18:08 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:20:13 PM
vslover Cut Rock Total Posts: 474 Last Post: 4/28/2009 Member Since: 11/9/2007	I think it's lovely, just have to remember that you won't be able to reuse the halo...but if it could be a right hand ring later on (or just trade in the whole thing toward a new stone) I think it could be a super plan!
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:20:13 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:30:13 PM
*DeeJay** Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,491 Last Post: 9/23/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2006	I like the concept of the ring, but the airline seems too pronounced to me. Perhaps it's a matter of things being blown up to umteen times their real size though, and this is only my opinion, but maybe they could bring the two halos together more (perhaps even make them touching)?
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:30:13 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:50:01 PM
coatimundi_org Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,312 Last Post: 6/7/2009 Member Since: 12/9/2007	I think it's really dynamic! When you're able to upgrade you could put a colored stone in the halo. Very pretty setting! It looks like you'd get great finger coverage too. With the stone it looked like maybe 12ish mm in diameter--just a guess. What does your finger measure (across)in mm? Coati, G.G.
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:50:01 PM

P: 1/21/2008 11:51:01 PM
mandyk77 Rough Rock Total Posts: 75 Last Post: 5/19/2008 Member Since: 12/24/2007	I think that setting is really beautiful! One thing to consider, which might not bother you, is that the pave on the ring is average color F-G and the diamond that you have listed is an I. The center stone could be a bit yellow compared to the pave. I ran into this problem with my pave setting. The setting is around F color and I first wanted an I center stone. After trying the I in the setting I felt that I would not be able to go any lower than G without noticing a vast difference. My pave setting really showed the difference in color between F, G, and I. But I guess an Ideal cut I with some blue fluor. might face up white enough for your setting! Good luck in your decision!
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:51:01 PM

P: 1/22/2008 12:09:26 AM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	The setting you linked is beautiful and would certainly maximiaze the appearance of your stone, but honestly I would put the $2400 towards a bigger stone and get a more simple setting like a classic solitaire if you plan on going larger soon. It costs a lot of money to replace a setting when you upgrade the stone so I would wait on a nice setting you are going to upgrade. A nice compromise might be a cheaper single halo like this one that costs 1k less but still gives the halo effect: http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=203&rn=1082&action=show_detail or this: http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=203&rn=319&action=show_detail
Posted: 1/22/2008 12:09:26 AM

P: 1/25/2008 12:21:15 AM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	I am just not sure what I want to do -- I do like the idea of moving the center stone in a halo to a RHR eventually. We are about to start looking. I still LOVE the idea of a sapphire center (larger) with a diamond halo or side stones, Anyone want to show me some .75 hao options or sapphire halo options? THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME! 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 1/25/2008 12:21:15 AM

P: 1/25/2008 12:45:36 AM
Haven Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,047 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2007	Have you started looking for a sapphire yet? If not, I just want to warn you that it is TOUGH to find a large, well-cut, natural sapphire. That's not to say it can't be done (look up Poshpepper's gorgeous ring for proof!) but I just want to encourage you to expect a bit of time before you find something. That being said, don't let the hunt discourage you into settling for a less-than-great sapphire. As for the setting, it sounds like this future upgrade business is having a large impact on what you choose for your ring RIGHT NOW. My advice is to fuggedabout the upgrade, and opt for a ring that you will love AS IS, not AS IT MIGHT ONE DAY BE. You never know, you may become sentimental about the ring that your future FI uses to propose, and then never want to upgrade. (This is exactly how I now feel.) Okay, now on to finger coverage--have you tried on any rings in person? This is the best way to get a feel for different cuts and sizes to see what looks good on you. I drooled over Royal Asschers for YEARS until I tried one on--now I just drool over RAs on OTHER people's hands (ahem, Musey! That avatar!). For some reason, it just didn't look right on my own hand (SOB!) So go try on some rings, take lots of pictures, and come post them on PS! And besides, who doesn't want to try on beautiful rings? ********************************************************** "I'm sorry I ruined your lives and crammed eleven cookies into the VCR." - Buddy the Elf "Let your inner Liz Taylor out and rock it." - diamondfan
Posted: 1/25/2008 12:45:36 AM

P: 1/25/2008 8:50:34 AM
bem3231 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 502 Last Post: 8/31/2008 Member Since: 8/28/2007	Date: 1/25/2008 12:21:15 AM Author: Cocosgirl I am just not sure what I want to do -- I do like the idea of moving the center stone in a halo to a RHR eventually. We are about to start looking. I still LOVE the idea of a sapphire center (larger) with a diamond halo or side stones, Anyone want to show me some .75 hao options or sapphire halo options? THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME! Perhaps you've come across this already, and I know that it's a tad over your budget (not much), but I thought that I'd call your attention to this. I noticed it the other day on Leon's site and it struck me as quite different. It also struck me that it's on sale and I've never seen stuff on sale on his site before. When I looked at the JA setting and stone that you were considering, this one immediately came to mind, as they have some striking similarities. It would make a lovely RHR some day... http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=381
Posted: 1/25/2008 8:50:34 AM

P: 1/25/2008 9:14:35 AM
Miscka Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,674 Last Post: 11/10/2009 Member Since: 4/9/2007	Bem that is a GORGEOUS ring you linked! Yum. Cocosgirl, if I were you, I would go with the sapphire/leon idea. That way, you can keep it as is, and get a diamond in the future for an anni, and upgrade that as you please. Two rings instead of one, the way I see it! I can't wait to see what you choose!
Posted: 1/25/2008 9:14:35 AM

P: 1/25/2008 9:24:18 AM
phoenixgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,494 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 3/20/2003	I think the JA ring could work . . . you did a good job picking out a stone with a large spread (depth of 59.4 but still an HCA of 0.9). It will look the size of a 0.76 or 0.77 with a 61 or 62% depth. It seems like I can always see inclusions in JA's pictures, so that one probably isn't anything to worry about, but I'd double check before ordering.
Posted: 1/25/2008 9:24:18 AM

P: 1/25/2008 9:25:28 AM
the rube Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,934 Last Post: 10/15/2009 Member Since: 10/22/2007	Date: 1/21/2008 10:59:37 PM Author: milton333 The link did not work for me. FWIW, I think that there's an element to finger size that is not often discussed. I think it's not just about finger circumference, but also about the distance between the base of your finger and the first knuckle up. In my opinion, lots of ladies with very thin fingers also tend to have very long fingers. Even if the diamond covers space from side to side, I still tend to think that all of the space between knuckle and base of finger contributes to the perception of coverage. Given the way your fingers draw your eye from base to tip, I think the size between knuckle and base plays a big, overlooked role. I honestly think that it helps to have short, stubby fingers, even if they are a bit wider. My fingers are size 6-6.5 ish (smaller now in the winter, swollen a bit in the humidity of the summer). With my e-ring and a channel-set, .5 carat 1/2 eternity band (3 mm wide), probably 3/4 of the space between my knuckle and the base of my finger is covered. From side to side, the diamond is maybe not huge, but I honestly think my almost-carat looks proportionately the same size on my stubby fingers as many 1.5 carats do on ladies with slimmer but longer fingers. My .02. Milton, that's a very interesting point of view... ........................ You say you want diamonds in a ring of gold...but all I want is you...
Posted: 1/25/2008 9:25:28 AM

P: 3/8/2008 12:27:13 AM
Cocosgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 183 Last Post: 8/25/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2008	Ok, I'm back again and STILL obsessing about finger size and finger coverage and my BF is getting so "done" with my flip flopping. I finally broke out the old tape measure and determined milimeter width on two substantial rings I already have -- one is an antique, art deco square setting (will get pics soon) with 9 small diamonds set into it which measures 12mm in width and gives good finger coverage. The other is a 3 stone, nearly 3 carat gemstone center (cushion cut appx 8mm in diameter) with .6 or .7 carat each (can't remember) trillion diamond sides set in a wonderfully heavy art deco inspired platinum & 18K yellow gold setting. When I measure THAT ring, from horizontal end to end, across my finger, it measures a whopping (and gosh do I love it) 20mm!!!! Basically it covers the entire width of my size 9 finger tapering out on the ends into delicate v-cap prongs from the trillions. So here's the thing, I think I would be cool with something in the 12-13 mm round pave halo size -- can I get that with the James Allen setting I posted here earlier (and a .7 or .8 carat round brilliant stone cener) or should I stick with the 2.5-ish carat sapphire I am looking at with a fabulous single pave halo?????? I know. I know. Thanks for your patience folks. A girl with fat fingers is always worried about her a@# being covered completely 40 is the new 20, right?
Posted: 3/8/2008 12:27:13 AM

P: 3/8/2008 1:21:05 AM
Sparkalicious Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,719 Last Post: 9/19/2009 Member Since: 11/22/2007	Instead of a round, have you considered an oval shaped diamond? They tend to give more finger coverage and run a little less than rounds for the most part as well. I saw a lovely one the other day set in a slight pave split shank setting with a halo ... finger coverage galore! * Too much of a good thing can be wonderful * ~ Mae West September 6, 2009
Posted: 3/8/2008 1:21:05 AM

P: 3/8/2008 1:38:29 AM
DandiAndi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,001 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 1/9/2006	I'm all for getting a killer sapphire in a diaond halo. My heart skips a beat whenever I see missrocks' or poshpepper's rings
Posted: 3/8/2008 1:38:29 AM

P: 3/8/2008 2:41:47 AM
Gypsy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,306 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 8/9/2005	Date: 3/8/2008 1:21:05 AM Author: Sparkalicious Instead of a round, have you considered an oval shaped diamond? They tend to give more finger coverage and run a little less than rounds for the most part as well. I saw a lovely one the other day set in a slight pave split shank setting with a halo ... finger coverage galore! I agree. I'd actually go with an east west oval in a halo. They are spready and you can find, with a little hunting, stock settings for them. They are also cheaper per carat than rounds. Although they show color a bit more, so I don't know if you would like an I in an oval. I personally would, but I've discovered fairly recently, that I like warmer stones as well as white ones.
Posted: 3/8/2008 2:41:47 AM

P: 3/8/2008 6:06:50 PM
elle_chris Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,958 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 2/19/2004	I think the east to west oval idea is a briiliant. I understand how you feel as I also have larger fingers (well compared to the ladies here . Since a halo setting is more expensive than a normal one, I'd take that money and put into a larger oval and simple setting. This way, an upgrade down the road where you'd only need to change the head would be much easier on the wallet. Otherwise, the sapphire in halo option would be gorgeous too. elle
Posted: 3/8/2008 6:06:50 PM

P: 3/8/2008 7:58:27 PM
Tacori E-ring Ideal Rock Total Posts: 16,086 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 8/15/2005	MQ and Pears also look larger. I do love the idea of an east-west ring!
Posted: 3/8/2008 7:58:27 PM

P: 3/8/2008 8:18:53 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	A .75 diamond is about 5.8mm and if you add a 2mm halo around it, it would then have a diameter of about 9.8mm. I am not sure about the size of the James Allen halo ring you posted. I will say that I think that setting looks much more like a cocktail ring than an engagement ring. I think you'll get a lot more finger coverage with a sapphire halo ring if your budget is $4000. I'd go for the larger stone and a more elegant, delicate halo. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 3/8/2008 8:18:53 PM

P: 3/8/2008 8:28:33 PM
kelpie Rough Rock Total Posts: 75 Last Post: 12/20/2008 Member Since: 1/8/2008	excel also has a double halo that looks similar to the JA one. link
Posted: 3/8/2008 8:28:33 PM

P: 3/8/2008 8:48:10 PM
mrssalvo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 16,856 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 1/3/2005	I would probably try to put most of your budget into the stone. i think a halo is great idea but agree with Diamondseeker that the JA double halo, or any double halo for that matter really does look more like a cocktail ring to me. that would definitely be something I'd want to see in person b/f commiting too. Have you looked at beverly k settings? they are very reasonably priced and you can find a beautiful halo setting for around 1K, some are less, some are more. That would leave you 3K for the diamond or even a sapphire if you wanted. ----------------------------- A deal is only a deal if you are getting exactly what you want.
Posted: 3/8/2008 8:48:10 PM

P: 3/8/2008 10:39:44 PM
Missrocks Ideal Rock Total Posts: 518 Last Post: 5/5/2008 Member Since: 12/28/2007	My avator makes it pretty obvious the way I would vote Maybe I'll add a little imput on what helped me make my decision. I originally had no idea I would end up with a sapphire. I had always had my heart set on a 2.75-3ct colorless cushion cut diamond. Unfortunetly, diamond prices have skyrocketed in the past years to the point where they exceeded the budget. I love my sapphire ring and feel it is the "best" of the color I have seen out there. I wouldn't change anything about it and know I will still love it in the years to come. If I would've gotten a diamond, I know I wouldn't have been completely happy with the color or the size (for the price range I was in) and would've been thinking about the upgrade from day one. So when it is time for my diamond upgrade, I can retire my sapphire to a right hand ring. And in the meantime, I am extremely happy wearing the prettiest sapphire and setting I have ever seen. Good luck with your decision and my only advice is keep searching until you find something you absolutely love. DandiAndi- Thanks for the compliment!
Posted: 3/8/2008 10:39:44 PM

P: 3/8/2008 10:44:37 PM
arjunajane Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,772 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2008	Great suggestion Mrs! Cocos, I too am considering Beverley K settings from Pearlmans and they seem very elegant for a reasonable price. Here is a pic of one I found it is only about $1000. From most accounts they are also supposed to be nice quality. I second getting a more elegant halo and investing more in the stone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And let today embrace the past with remembrance and the future with longing." Kahlil Gibran
Posted: 3/8/2008 10:44:37 PM

P: 3/8/2008 10:51:03 PM
arjunajane Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,772 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2008	These next two are only about $950! If I were getting a round stone I'd grab one in a second I think they look lovely, especially for that price! If you'd like to have a look cocos, there are also a number of more elaborate ones that range about $1500. The halos start from page 8 of th BK section on p'mans site. http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/beverley-k-jewelry/rings/115PP1/42/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And let today embrace the past with remembrance and the future with longing." Kahlil Gibran
Posted: 3/8/2008 10:51:03 PM

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