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P: 1/9/2008 7:48:45 PM
gus1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 1/10/2008 Member Since: 12/28/2007	could anyone tell me if this is a good deal for the stone below? ($21,909) I'm not educated on finding a stone but do know that I'm looking for a 1.9-2 CT round, F color, VS1-VS2 with a premium cut. Any recommendations, please fill free to chime in...all are appreciated. Are GOG/whiteflash the best resources for an internet diamond..any thoughts? thanks Shape: Round Carat Weight: 1.848ct Color: F Clarity: VS2 AGS Cut Grade: Ideal est GIA Cut Grade: Excellent AGS Light Performance: Ideal Optical Symmetry: Superior Polish: Ideal Symmetry: Ideal Fluorescence: Medium Girdle: 2.31% Culet: None Lab Report: AGS Lab Report #: In House: Yes Width: 7.83mm Length: 7.86mm Depth: 4.87mm Table Percentage: 55.36% Depth Percentage: 62.09% Crown ∠: 34.72° Crown Depth: 15.48% Pavilion ∠: 40.66° Pavilion Depth: 42.85% Upper Girdle ∠: 40.83° Lower Girdle ∠: 41.92°
Posted: 1/9/2008 7:48:45 PM

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P: 1/9/2008 8:03:19 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 1/9/2008 7:48:45 PM Author:gus1 could anyone tell me if this is a good deal for the stone below? ($21,909) I'm not educated on finding a stone but do know that I'm looking for a 1.9-2 CT round, F color, VS1-VS2 with a premium cut. Any recommendations, please fill free to chime in...all are appreciated. Are GOG/whiteflash the best resources for an internet diamond..any thoughts? thanks I would say they are 2 of the best, but not the only ones. However, these two seem to have better upgrade policies than some others. For not being educated in diamonds, you sure picked a winner! It looks great. Better reserve it while you think, that's a somewhat hard to find size. You don't want someone buying it out from under you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 1/9/2008 8:03:19 PM

P: 1/9/2008 9:36:29 PM
gus1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 1/10/2008 Member Since: 12/28/2007	thank you for the helpful feedback...It's one of the 1st stones I've considered but concerned about jumping on this stone right now. I've got about 3.5 months to keep looking...is it likely that I'll come across a better stone or an equivalent with a better price? I just don't want to rush and trying to get advice from people exposed to the trade. thanks again
Posted: 1/9/2008 9:36:29 PM

P: 1/9/2008 9:58:17 PM
Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,151 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004	That's a killer diamond, for sure. Any girl would love it! And I've sung this song before around here before, but may I ask why you have your parameters set at F/VS? You could definitely get an equally killer stone (blazingly white and totally eyeclean, in a lower color/clarity) and either (1) save some money or (2) go up in size. And since I am a SIZE GIRL, I just had to chime in with my humble 2 cents! And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it!
Posted: 1/9/2008 9:58:17 PM

P: 1/9/2008 10:48:26 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	I agree, it's a winner. The numbers are spot on. I like the F VS combo, but that's personal, everyone has their sweet spots. ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 1/9/2008 10:48:26 PM

P: 1/9/2008 10:50:42 PM
Sparkalicious Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,719 Last Post: 9/19/2009 Member Since: 11/22/2007	Hi Gus! Welcome! That diamond sounds fantastic! What a great size for a fair price! I love the F/VS2 combo! I'm sure your gf will be thrilled with this diamond! You are so lucky to just happen upon this diamond ... You can use the next 3 mos to find the perfect setting, if you have not yet already found it. I would say grab this lovely or at least reserve it by calling the vendor right away before someone else steals it out from under you. It happens more times than not. With regards to the vendors you mentioned, I've only dealt with Whiteflash and they are fantastic! Good luck ... I hope you decide to go with this beauty ... If not, please be sure to report back with an update. * Too much of a good thing can be wonderful * ~ Mae West September 6, 2009
Posted: 1/9/2008 10:50:42 PM

P: 1/10/2008 5:16:07 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,283 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 1/9/2008 8:03:19 PM Author: Ellen Date: 1/9/2008 7:48:45 PM Author:gus1 could anyone tell me if this is a good deal for the stone below? ($21,909) I'm not educated on finding a stone but do know that I'm looking for a 1.9-2 CT round, F color, VS1-VS2 with a premium cut. Any recommendations, please fill free to chime in...all are appreciated. Are GOG/whiteflash the best resources for an internet diamond..any thoughts? thanks I would say they are 2 of the best, but not the only ones. However, these two seem to have better upgrade policies than some others. For not being educated in diamonds, you sure picked a winner! It looks great. Better reserve it while you think, that's a somewhat hard to find size. You don't want someone buying it out from under you. Ditto El. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 1/10/2008 5:16:07 AM

P: 1/10/2008 8:43:14 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 1/9/2008 9:36:29 PM Author: gus1 thank you for the helpful feedback...It's one of the 1st stones I've considered but concerned about jumping on this stone right now. I've got about 3.5 months to keep looking...is it likely that I'll come across a better stone or an equivalent with a better price? I just don't want to rush and trying to get advice from people exposed to the trade. thanks again As for coming across a"better" stone, that depends on what you mean by better. If you begin splitting hairs with the numbers, you might, and you could also drive yourself mad. Also, you are looking for really hard to find sizes as far as those just under 2 cts., there won't be a huge abundance of them. At 2 cts. it get's much easier, but the price jumps a lot too. The places you are looking at have great prices, so you're not going to find a better priced one per se. However, as Lynn pointed out, if you change your color and clarity specs, you may see one come down the pike that's larger for the same amount of money, or a little more. But as Kaleigh said, and I agree, that's a personal choice. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 1/10/2008 8:43:14 AM

P: 1/10/2008 1:25:19 PM
Jenn5504 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,166 Last Post: 8/20/2009 Member Since: 5/21/2007	You found what will certainly be a gorgeous stone! I'm another "size girl" and would probably utilize that nice budget and get a bit bigger in the G-H SI1 realm, but it's just a personal choice.
Posted: 1/10/2008 1:25:19 PM

P: 1/10/2008 2:31:46 PM
BlingItOn Cut Rock Total Posts: 116 Last Post: 7/19/2008 Member Since: 12/22/2007	Ahhh....My sweet spot!!! The F VS combo! And in the "Magic numbers" that lie slightly under 2 Cts no less! I agree with the rest, at least reserve that beauty while you think, especially if this Diamond lies in your "Sweet Spot" too. I don't think it is really easy to find a diamond that meets truly specific specs. In fact, I just used the PriceScope Search Tool and found only 1 other one based on your specs: 1.9-2Cts, F VS1, Ideal Cut, Polish & Symmetry http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1131275.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131 __________________________________________________________ Pretty Baubles this way please....!
Posted: 1/10/2008 2:31:46 PM

P: 1/10/2008 2:42:52 PM
:) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,864 Last Post: 6/1/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2006	Gus, the stone you posted looks beautiful - the IS is wonderful. It's not always easy to find something just shy of two carats. There is a definite price increase the closer you get to 2 carats. At least reserve it while you think about it or someone else may snatch it!
Posted: 1/10/2008 2:42:52 PM

P: 1/10/2008 6:23:34 PM
gus1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 1/10/2008 Member Since: 12/28/2007	Date: 1/9/2008 9:58:17 PM Author: Lynn B That's a killer diamond, for sure. Any girl would love it! And I've sung this song before around here before, but may I ask why you have your parameters set at F/VS? You could definitely get an equally killer stone (blazingly white and totally eyeclean, in a lower color/clarity) and either (1) save some money or (2) go up in size. And since I am a SIZE GIRL, I just had to chime in with my humble 2 cents! I think I set my parameters based on my limited knowledge of what I thought is ideal, but am glad to be informed for a better decision. I know (in my mind)that the stone has to be close to or greater than 2 CT and I didn't know exactly what parameters to skimp on for the sake of a larger stone and same visual "naked eye" quality. thanks for the help. v/r, Gus
Posted: 1/10/2008 6:23:34 PM

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