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P: 12/7/2007 12:07:43 PM
rodman23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 25 Last Post: 12/7/2007 Member Since: 12/6/2007	After getting some great advice on here, I have decided I am going to bite the bullet and get another stone to compare with the Robins Bros Ring I have in hand: Now I have a choice of 3 stones .... I wanted to get your guys' feedback. Stone 1: Price: $4,953 Bank wire price: $4,879 Carat weight: 1.25 Cut: Very Good Color: H Clarity: SI2 Depth %: 60.5% Table %: 58% Symmetry: Good Polish: Very good Girdle: Slightly thick to thick, faceted Culet: None Fluorescence: None Measurements: 6.59 x 7.26 x 4.39 mm Length/width ratio: 0.91 Stone 2 Price: $6,494 Bank wire price: $6,397 Carat weight: 1.24 Cut: Very Good Color: H Clarity: VS1 Depth %: 52.1% Table %: 62% Symmetry: Good Polish: Good Girdle: Medium to thick Culet: None Fluorescence: None Measurements: 6.92 x 7.73 x 4.03 mm Length/width ratio: 0.90 Stone 3 Price: $4,913 Bank wire price: $4,840 Carat weight: 1.21 Cut: Very Good Color: G Clarity: SI2 Depth %: 59.6% Table %: 57% Symmetry: Good Polish: Excellent Girdle: Medium to very thick Culet: None Fluorescence: Faint Measurements: 6.73 x 7.18 x 4.28 mm Length/width ratio: 0.94
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:07:43 PM

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P: 12/7/2007 12:24:42 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,338 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	Rodman, We NEED real magnified pictures of the stones. There is more than just depth and table that makes the stone sparkle (or not). And ASET pictures would be doubly helpful as well.
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:24:42 PM

P: 12/7/2007 12:26:48 PM
rodman23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 25 Last Post: 12/7/2007 Member Since: 12/6/2007	Chrono can I get pictures of the diamond on BN? I'll go check. Thanks Rod Sorry for the craziness .... I'm just really anxious to place this order.
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:26:48 PM

P: 12/7/2007 12:42:18 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,338 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	You are not likely to get pictures from BN. These are virtual stones in their database.
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:42:18 PM

P: 12/7/2007 12:44:57 PM
rodman23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 25 Last Post: 12/7/2007 Member Since: 12/6/2007	Yeah I just checked too .... "sample images" Chrono ... I know you say that we've got to see them ... but I can only afford to get one of these from BN! So looking at those 3 which one do you like ... or which one would you eliminate?
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:44:57 PM

P: 12/7/2007 7:36:47 PM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,840 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Do you have the links to the diamonds so we can look at the certs? With the 2 SI2 stones you need to find out if they are eye clean; I wonder if they are in house? Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 12/7/2007 7:36:47 PM

P: 12/7/2007 7:43:51 PM
february2003bride Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,100 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2005	Rodman- 1) What is your budget? 2) Take any stone that you want more info about and get the cert number. Go to either GIA or AGSL's website, plug in the cert number and you get the stones specs. 3) Go to the HCA here at Pricescop and it will tell you wha the TIC score is, as well as how it ranks the stone. 4) Go to GemAppraisers website and use his DIY Cut grade calculator. It will tell you if its a 1A, 1B, 2A, etc. This should help you tremendously! ETA: Any stone that passes the above, call Blue Nile and ask for a color and/or clarity visual. They will pull the stone within 24 hours, look at it, and report back to you what their gemologist finds.
Posted: 12/7/2007 7:43:51 PM

P: 12/7/2007 7:48:00 PM
february2003bride Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,100 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2005	I don't know if this is eye clean, you'd have to request a clarity and color visual, but this one scored really well on the HCA and AGA: http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&track=btntext_viewselect&elem=img&pid=LD01214888&filter_id=0 One I was considering: http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&track=btntext_viewselect&elem=img&pid=LD01164790&filter_id=0
Posted: 12/7/2007 7:48:00 PM

P: 12/7/2007 7:48:51 PM
february2003bride Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,100 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2005	Oh wait- is this for a round or for another shape?
Posted: 12/7/2007 7:48:51 PM

P: 12/7/2007 9:49:15 PM
rodman23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 25 Last Post: 12/7/2007 Member Since: 12/6/2007	It's actually for a heart shaped diamond. I will follow the steps you recommended ..... thanks for the info
Posted: 12/7/2007 9:49:15 PM

P: 12/7/2007 9:54:11 PM
rodman23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 25 Last Post: 12/7/2007 Member Since: 12/6/2007	I'm sorry ... I'm a n000b ... what's the HCA? =) Also what's the website for the GemAppraisers? Thanks Rod
Posted: 12/7/2007 9:54:11 PM

P: 12/7/2007 10:00:20 PM
february2003bride Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,100 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2005	This is the HCA, but it's only for rounds. http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp AGA DIY Cut Grader: http://www.gemappraisers.com/oldcutgrade.asp Hope this helps!
Posted: 12/7/2007 10:00:20 PM

P: 12/7/2007 10:37:44 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Rod, it is impossible to choose any fancy shape diamond without a picture of the actual stone. You can pick a round fairly accurately by certain dimensions, but you really can't do that with any other shape. So unless you can get pictures, I'm afraid no one would be able to tell you which of these to choose. I haven't looked back to the other thread, but what is this stone for? ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/7/2007 10:37:44 PM

P: 12/8/2007 10:33:12 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Rod, ds is right. Honestly, the best advice I could give you, is to go with an internet vendor who can search for what you want, and actually look at it and tell you about it. You just won't get that with BN. IMO, this is an important purchase, and it would be prudent to go with someone who can help you get it right. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/8/2007 10:33:12 AM

P: 12/8/2007 10:36:16 AM
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002	Rodman, the best thing you can do in this position is to bring the stones to an independent appraiser and have him evaluate them and help you identify which one is the better cut/best value. _____________________ Note: Chainsaw Not Sold Separately.
Posted: 12/8/2007 10:36:16 AM

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